:D :D eee, you make me laugh sometimes

Good.

1.- You conveniently averted the part in which I noted I was being facetious (well, "a dick") because I'm waiting for my record to arrive while you're already listening to it. Enjoy your mooky 24 kbps, by the way.

2.- I already told you you're not Tiny anymore, because Stormy Daniels gave that one forever to President Tiny.

3.- :fuckyou:

Stephen Carpenter got himself a custom 9 string for the next Deftones album slated for 2019.

Check out those big-ass Fishman Fluence pick ups too

I couldn't be more excited. It's okay if nobody else here is.

If SuchFriends still posted, he'd be just as ecstatic as I am.

1. But *I’m* being facetious
2. You couldn’t tell so maybe I’m not being facetious now
3. :fuckyou: 2

Is that so...


Anyone can see the bile there and tell it wasn't facetious. So :fuckyou:³.

Not everyone's as much of an audiophile as you, Soup. So long as I enjoy the music, I really don't care that much about what I'm listening to it on.

I saw this coming a mile away. :)

I sincerely don't consider myself an audiophile. If I were, I would stop paying the rent (altogether; I'm on my way there anyway :D), I would even stop eating, I would beg, steal, cheat and lie and use ALL of those coins to get a veritable motherfucker of a stereo system built from scratch by a truly audiophile monk in the Himalayas or summat. Now, some artists wanted their music to be perfect when coming out of a regular transistor radio (John Fogerty, at least during his CCR days) or a Dansette or a tape deck (Mark E. Smith). I think that's awesome. Lester Bangs also mentioned in 1980 that on a so-called state-of-the-art audio equipment which back then cost a thousand dollars Jackson Browne sounded great while the Ramones' records felt completely lost.

But here's the thing: there are no contradictions between caring about sonic quality and what people like Fogerty, Smith and the Ramones wanted their art to sound/feel like, because I can for shit fucking sure tell you that none of them wanted LARGE CHUNKS OF WHAT THEY CREATED CLIPPED OFF OF THE FINAL PRODUCT. So I simply listen to the best quality audio I can afford on the best audio equipment I can afford, and pretty much hope that whoever was in charge of mastering/remastering the tunes didn't fuck up.

As for Spotify's 24kbps bitrate, that's not even a bad joke. Consider that 32kbps is "generally acceptable only for speech". And they have the nerve to charge you for that bullcrap? Come on.

“Things can be more than one thing” should have been a clue that I was speaking FAF (facetiously as fuck), also the fatty thing. And the “No you can’t be Biggie” thing.

But now I’m actually mad, because you won’t believe I wasn’t so it’s fite time

You see, this seems like you're saying 'you shouldn't be listening to the music if you can't get it at higher quality'. Which sucks, because not all of us have piles of cash to go out and buy records.

:D

im looking forward to the next taylor swift

oooh taylor swift

when will that be? can't wait either way

what else

hmmm.... the... miley cyrus!

no

nickelback. do they still exist? i look forward to the reunion / reissue/ something

also: hall & oates

also: chubby checker

Claire, no — if that terrible quality is all you can access, by all means go for it. What I'm saying is be aware that it's terrible quality. :)

Hey, "Claire, no" sounded like "Caroline, No". (And yes, I'm aware that's a YouTube link. :D)

looking forward to the next billy ray cyrus

looking forward to bananarama

looking forward to the next justin bieber

Looking forward to you shutting the fuck up. (Not on the Drumpf thread, though, where your posts are usually OK...)

looking forward to hannah montana

looking forward to the new kid rock

im looking forward to milli vanilli

im looking forward to el festival de viña del mar

im looking forward to one direction

im looking forward to the new kids on the block

im looking forward to the new menudo

im looking forward

im looking forward to carly rae jepsen

im looking forward to carrie underwood

im looking forward to viva la gente

im looking forward to the new garth brooks

im looking forward to dj méndez

im looking forward to nicole

im looking forward to myriam hernández

im looking forward to christell

im looking forward to abba's b-sides

im looking forward to the grease rerelease

im looking forward to carlos mencia

im looking forward to the bill cosby final farewell tour double album

im looking forward!

Tweedy is Dad Rock for people who think they're too cool for Dad Rock. there's nothing good about that music and there's nothing imaginative about that music at all. Ultimate middle-of-the-road twangy garbage. Thank God for public radio. or at least he should be thanking God for public radio.

who?

That's what I get for using voice text. Edited for spelling correctness.
Also probably a couple of pages behind at this point. I'm just always surprised when people care about that music. It truly baffles me.

oh! ha ha ha

i was always for sylvester so either way

Me too!

I actually do identify as an audiophile (I follow the subreddits after all), and am not a wealthy person by any stretch of the imagination.
Something tells me Soups does too, but he's too bashful to admit it:



A large majority of audiophile claims are based on pure placebo effects. I went down the rabbit hole w/ turntable equipment, cartridges, headshell leads, vintage receivers, etc... the difference was negligible more often than not. The cartridge and speakers were what mattered most tbh. Everything else was superfluous as long as your tracking wasn't off.

Vinylheads will pay an awful lot of money just to get their records to sound 'better'. There's a concept called diminishing returns which many audiophiles just don't seem to grasp. Records are snake oil imho. Objectively, they don't even offer the full frequency range that something like a flac or wav file have. People enjoy records mainly for the physicality, large artwork, and that warm sound flavoring people seem to adore so much.



If I had a dollar for every time some bozo wouldn't shut up about how much better vinyl sounded and then proceeded to play me something on their suitcase Crosley turntable w/ the bult in aluminum foil speakers... I'd have enough $$ to pay my Google Play Music sub for a month.

Speaking of which, GPM offers 320kbps... as does Spotify if you pay for it. Not sure where Soups is pulling this 32kbps crap from. Maybe I missed something in the thread, but what you're listening to should be 10x whatever he's ranting on about.

Uncompressed audio is legit though if you have the speakers/headphones for it, and the song is properly mastered (notice all the variables at play).



What matters most is your equipment's ability to reproduce all this signal properly, and your ears' personal ability to pick up on the difference. I've fooled a few self-proclaimed audiophiles in a blind sound test on a friend's $3k pair of loudspeakers once.

WHAT MATTERS EVEN MORE THAN MOST IS HOW GOOD THE MUSIC SOUNDS TO YOU AND IF YOU ENJOY HOW THE MUSIC SOUNDS. FIND SPEAKERS/HEADPHONES WHICH COMPLEMENT YOUR DESIRED SOUND SIGNATURE AND YOU SHOULD BE MORE THAN GOOD TO GO. THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS VERY REAL AND 'FLAVORING' YOUR MUSIC CAN BE ADDICTIVE

Nevertheless...

https://www.slsknet.org/

Try Soulseek if you have a PC/Mac of your own. You can download flac and other lossless files by searching like 'Pixies flac', 'Blur flac' , etc, or whatever else floats your boat. It's good stuff. I pay for a GPM subscription simply because it lets me watch Youtube w/o ads. If it weren't for that I'd likely just download flac via slsk.

Still, the biggest difference is the file size, and like I said, mp3 ain't much worse and many audiophiles can be fooled without knowing which is which beforehand. Placebo, snake oil, etc.

Hope that helps.

Tl;dr: you'll do yourself a lot more good by saving up for some decent bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer than wasting any of that cash on records. Seriously.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr. Eugene Felikson again.

a+++ will buy again

Yes it’s dad rock for people who think they’re too cool for dad rock.

That doesn’t mean there’s nothing good about it.

Don’t be stupid.

That’s a fucking stupid thing to say.

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS

to be fair, we're all on the edge of our seats for the new chubby checker

indeed

Yeah, crazy that someone would like, like, Wilco or REM or I dunno Sonic Youth or something dumb like that.

God people are dumb with their liking of things.

Personal taste is indeed personal. I've just always been surprised that people who like adventurous music seem to go in for Wilco. They had moments of experimentation but it was always kind of precious when it did happen. To my ears at least. And I like plenty of stuff that could definitely be called questionable. At best.

idk who Wilco is but the name conjures up a mental image of some hippie in a cowboy hat

kinda like Revolting Cocks or something

Strangely those are both true.

I’m actually not a Wilco diehard, and I’m not really that excited by the new Tweedy album, but I like it and when I remember Wilco exists, I enjoy their music.

Maybe people who like adventurous music like the fact that Wilco can be adventurous but can also be comfy and cozy and sweatpany. So could REM. So could Sonic Youth, actually.

So... weird thing to trigger your rage at mundane/basic music, since it’s really not that.

Don’t you enjoy well-done folk music? Mermaid Avenue is simple as can be, but very good.

Not all music needs to warp your mindhlole. Some of it can just be fun.

im looking forward to 4’33”

I'm actually a huge folk music fan. I have always had folk groups alongside my rock groups because it's an area that is important to me to explore both as a listener and a player. To me Wilco isn't exactly folk music by a long stretch but I think I hear you're getting at. it's more just a surprise thing for me how many people I know with adventurous taste that seem to rate this band that to me has shot straight down the middle of the road their entire career, even when they are supposedly branching out sometimes. Just one person's take. That's all.