sounds like it's time to distribute the KY then.

KY is all in for Mitch

this is where i think derek has a long distance relationship problem with the u.s.a.

sure, bernie’s policies if implemented would benefit the working and low middle classes the most

but the working and low middle classes in this country don’t have “proletarian consciousness”. they’re all temporarily embarrassed millionaires waiting for their shot at opportunity, even if such opportunity is a mirage. if not them, their children.

most low income americans don’t really want what they perceive as “government handouts” even though when they’re available they will use them. but often they will resent those who use them.

there's also a large percentage of the public who prefers local solutions over federal ones. this is a republic formed out of 50 states plus some territories not a country of 4 million people. one size does not fit all unfortunately.

seems like a logical problem, but it’s not a matter of logic. it’s culture, it’s got its roots in history, and i don’t think it’s going away any time soon.

eta: this is a good if rough introduction

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-...-states-2015-7

Charlie Kirk

Wow:

Republican turnout for Donald Trump in Texas last night—1,879,758

Democrat turnout for all 4 top candidates combined—1,663,590

An uncontested race inspired a larger turnout than Democrats’ second biggest Super Tuesday prize

And they say they can flip Texas?

beauregard talking to himself please secede

That's very much what I've found. Plus the race factor, which really has no equivalent in the UK. Atlanta seems pretty straight forwardly pro-Biden. Miami is a riddle even by American standards, but fair to say Sanders' Castro connection, however spurious, really doesn't go down well

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...240425431.html

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...240584001.html

right. as for riddles, the book places miami as part of the spanish caribbean. it also has a bazillion retirees from up north though. seinfeld's "del boca vista" (lol).

the new cuban american generation is not so castro-obsessed, but still, the new generation doesn't vote as reliably as the old one, and winning florida is essential to win the electoral college in november.

I wasn't being 100% serious about the Castro/Cuban thing but yeah, the older generation still seems entrenched and continues to carry a lot of political weight. And if anything I'd say the up-coming generation, while less Castro-obsessed is hyper-aspirational, so have their own reason for rejecting anything that even vaguely smacks of socialism.

true that. they're the children of the cuban middle class--merchants, professionals, etc. an even when they aren't, that's what sets the culture.

miami is a huge business town. the economic hub of latin america, in fact.

i know of a dentist there who's the child of a south american cleaning lady. the cleaning lady makes good bank and drives a new car these days. while that's not everyone's story, it's the kind of story that feeds the "american dream." yes, there's an american nightmare too, but the dream itself is key to the culture, has been for generations.

just the other day i was watching a short video of an indian guy who has a vegan food cart in new york.

check it out. nice fucking guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxt4YCIsn2I

eta: sorry--sri lankan!

eta- his daughter graduated from the university where he sells his food. while i'm sure she got scholarships etc the narrative is that of the striving little guy doing better for the next generation. maybe it's a fantasy, but it's a powerful one regardless.

Quite. Returning to the point. My impression is that while Sanders policies may be about improving the lives of the poor, they seem more popular with those that're pretty comfortably off, so I imagine the voter suppression in poor areas that Derek talks about is more likely to hurt Biden than Bernie, especially if they have a high percentage of minorities.

yes in many (most?) southern states there is a history of voter suppression against minorities and they keep at it any way they can. e.g. see: stacy abrams in ga.

back to the 11 nations business: notice also how both progressive candidates are from yankeedom and do best there (even if warren tanked overall, those were her best regions, and the "left coast" allies).

anyway found this re: why warren lost in mass.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/3/2116160...-massachusetts

basically: uneducated men hate her (but also, some of her voters love her and want her to stay put). rough fate.

eta: this is her campaign's latest: https://medium.com/@teamwarren/next-steps-bfa8482e2fbc

Whatever the root cause I took a real instant dislike to her from the first moment I saw her in action. Just one of those people where it doesn't matter what they say, they just seem to inspire an automatic negative reaction in me.

Either way, I'm enjoying the contest as a kind of self contained battle. I think Trump will comfortably beat whoever the Dems finally pick.

her supporters say "misogyny" but i think that's not it. i love her on paper. and i think some of her policies will be great when implemented.

anyway as long as the repukes lose the senate i'd be willing to live with your prediction (barely. barely.)

Not me, fuck that sound. And Trimpie barely won in ‘16. He’s getting crushed this time...Senate? I doubt that

don’t underestimate the fucking republican machine or the evil that is mitch mcconnell. to say nothing of fox...

the trumpet’s approval rates have been slowly rising while his negatives have been slowly dropping, and his 33% (same as hitler’s) will follow him no matter what.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

Kill me now. I promised myself never to do this again, but perhaps I will allow myself one post per month.

Bytor fails epically in his own post. He disregards the percentage reporting which is evident in each of those graphics. Bytor, I detest you. How can you be so "good" in music threads, but such a fucking lunatic in these political threads? My brain will never be wired to understand such things.

Here's something that is not fake news: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-super-tuesday

It pains me that Biden will be The Chosen One. He is a decent, honest man, but he is clearly well past his best-before date. Sanders, who is even older, has fire, energy, ideas, coherent sentences, and outrage.

Both, however, would be a million times better than the current, incompetent, divisive, vindictive, toxic, idiotic asshole who currently occupies the job.

Happy New Year Skuj, it’s good to know you’re alive and well!

Ummm......what in the hell are you talking about?


The percentage reported was clearly on each graph

—YES—

extremely early in the counting, but the numbers were true and correct and the point of sharing was President Trump had received more votes than the Top Three Democrats COMBINED!!!


Guess what, the same was 100% TRUE with over 99% of the polling locations counted:



You can read the Texas Tribune story for yourself.


Also, I posted about this a page or two later regarding the voting results in Texas.



If you can show where Charlie Kirk or The Texas Tribune got the numbers wrong, I’ll gladly share that information here at SYG. If not, guess you’d better stick your head back in the sand......or pop more popcorn!

Trimpie very fearful of Biden.

“The Democrat establishment came together and crushed Bernie Sanders AGAIN!”

He also said Warren is “selfish” for staying in the race because “it hurts Bernie badly”

Who do you think he wants to run against?

et tu, demon?

damn...

One more for ignore

Bit harsh that, man

Warren dropped

God help me. They puuuullled me back in.

Your initial graphic was showing the numbers at a time when 1.48% was reporting for red, and 0.76% were reporting for blue. Those numbers are RIGHT ON THE SLIDES. But then again, I'm talking to a racist, homophobic Magaman. WTF am I doing?

Turning to the general audience now......

Bernie is only 60 or so delegates behind, right? Has the media gone overboard with Joe's "success"? Isn't Trump on tape saying he fears Bernie the most? I don't buy this notion that Bernie as the nominee = another 4 years of numbnuts. I fear that Joe as the nominee could mean that.

Looks like its going to be old dude VS old dude, looks like I'm looking for different options. These options suck.

but curiously, unlike pete and amy, she hasn't endorsed anyone (yet...)


well i'm glad you're back.

anyway... there was an article i linked here 2 days ago with a journo's prediction that the media was going to overrate biden. not because "conspiracy" but because geography favored early release of his strongest states while his weakest would trickle down over days.

nevertheless, he's beaten expectations. and warren didn't meet them, hence her announcement.

as for risk: any of the candidates could mean another 4 years of the beast. they all have their weaknesses, one way or another, and they appeal to different sectors of the electorate and not to everyone. the issue is which sector is larger.

i agree with your previous post that bernie makes a better presentation, but the outrage you mention, which i find at times appealing, is a huge turnoff for suburban moderates. i'm not a suburban moderate, i'm just telling you they exist in very large numbers and vote reliably.

and in a country like this one, going after "the billionaires the billionaires the billionaires" doesn't quite fly. this culture makes icons out of billionaires. you can only run so far on resentment against the rich. resentment here works better when it's targeted towards poor people and minorities, which is trump's playbook.

anyway, add to this that now we know bernie has failed to turn out the youth vote, and it adds up to a large risk for his potential candidacy. i bought for a moment the argument of greater turnout making him viable, and while he does show decent cross-demographic appeal, the turnout didn't materialize, and his own campaign has recognized that.

i'm supporting wholeheartedly whoever wins the nomination. however, it's a bit of a tightrope walk no matter who gets it.


vs old and bloated dude with excess makeup

I unignored everyone, started reading, became outraged, and started posting. I'm an idiot.

here’s the original josh lyman on the election:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...bbf_story.html

(paywall, but clear your cookies for a free look)

In a certain sense, would you, at this point?

me, i can’t put myself in her shoes.

but the way the field was set up, bernie supporters would probably have expected her endorsement to consolidate their side.

the fact that this has not happened... is telling.

her supporters will now scatter. unlike what amy did for biden in minnesota (she hand-delivered it).

here is warren’s goodbye. it’s actually quite moving at the end:

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/the-f...n-8f5ca2b4b557

if you can't see the diff, you're really needing an eye (or moral) exam

I hadn't been here in so long I forgot it was a feature, it's a good way to clear out the psychopaths

Could she be holding out for a VP invite?


I’m glad Skuj is back posting......truth is, he never went anywhere! I would like to see him contributing more in Non-Sonic Sounds.

Bitety poo-poo getting down into Trumprump

beauregard, you might want to brush up on your vocabulary a little bit.

words like “detest” and “unrequited” might not make it into memes very often, but they’re worth learning regardless.

No need to brush up on vocabulary, I fully understand what Skuj is saying. I also understand he says such hateful things without offering any proof......just as you continue to do!

I’m sincerely glad Skuj is back. My desire to see him or any of you actively posting about music is for the good of SYG......I’ll continue to do my part!

I’ll also continue to turn the other cheek, refusing to lash out in anger or make it personal.

LOVE YA !@#$%!

what do you mean “proof.” proof that he detests you? like an affidavit, or an official oath or something?

i’m glad skuj is back too, but you drove him away.

and your humblebrag is lies. you’re not “turning the other cheek,” you’re just mooning people.

I’ve stated this multiple times in the TRUMP thread, guess I need to repeat it here.

A) if I’ve said anything racist, homophobic or hateful, please share it with the SYG moderators so they can address it.

B) please quote and reply and we can discuss it here

C) love you too, Skuj

You support a white supremacist. That's basically the definition of racism.

In addition to Barack Hussein Obama, but not Donald John Trump or Michael Richard Pence, or even Joseph Robinette Biden. There's something not quite white about why you've singled out one of these...