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Пятхъдесят Шест 08.09.2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
You're all making me wanna go order that damned Dub Trio Cd now. Can't find it anywhere. (The cut I used on my mix tape came from the Wire mag Cd thing.)


I first heard it there, but I've since got the album. Good stuff from the ROIR label.

gmku 08.09.2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ?????????? ????
I first heard it there, but I've since got the album. Good stuff from the ROIR label.


Is ROIR U.K.-based? Maybe that's why nobody here has it.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.09.2006 02:31 PM

I've always thought it was DC based? They released the first few Bad Brains releases, no?

sonicl 08.09.2006 02:41 PM

ROIR is NY-based.

WEBSITE

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.09.2006 02:43 PM

And look what they have playing...

Pookie 08.09.2006 04:17 PM

Wow, my review's dragging on compared to Hip Priest's. Still, here we go again. Next track:

No idea again, psychedelicish, the only track so far that doesn't do a great deal for me - nice enough though. The vocals leave me cold - I think that's why - a bit weedy.

And the next track suffers from the same kind of weedy vocals & doesn't seem to go anywhere.

And back to the good stuff. You Don't Miss Your Water... but I don't know who this is. Sounds a bit like The Triffids or that kind of thing. I really like his voice (I mention vocals a lot don't I?). Really good version of this song.

The Jesus & Mary Chain. Can't remember the name of the song. As I've mentioned a few times here, I went to see them in 1985 but they were completely over-shadowed by the support band, a then little-known band called Sonic Youth. The last time I saw JAMC was 1998 and it was a sad thing to behold. They just couldn't be bothered to even try to look vaguely interested.

Felt next with Primitive Painters. I had a friend and we used to do gig swaps. I'd go to see one of his bands, then he'd come & see one of mine. I took him to see Firehose, he took me to see Felt; I took him to see Henry Rollins, he took me to see Felt; I took him to see The Jesus Lizard, he took me to see Felt. Do you see where this is going? I couldn't believe how fanatical Felt fans were. And to get back to vocals, I couldn't stand Lawrence's voice. The only album of theirs I really liked was the instrumental one (Train Above The City?). This is a really good song though, with Liz Fraser on vocals.

And that's the end of Side One. Sorry for the lengthy review, but I'm LOVING it.

Hip Priest 08.09.2006 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I'm the certain boardie!

By the way, there is a mystery track, right before Double Leopards, if memory serves. At least, I think I remember not identifying that track--I left it off by mistake. But right before Inmost Light, you should hear kind of a freeform jam, sort of an update Captain Beefheart sound.

I can let you know now, or you can give another listen?


Well, feel free to identify it if you don't mind. I'm going to take the tape into work tomorrow and I'll make a special point to listen to the secret track.

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Originally Posted by gmku
...So you like the fish but not Twiggy?;)


The fish is lovely.

sonicl 08.10.2006 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Next track:

No idea again, psychedelicish, the only track so far that doesn't do a great deal for me - nice enough though. The vocals leave me cold - I think that's why - a bit weedy.

And the next track suffers from the same kind of weedy vocals & doesn't seem to go anywhere.


One of these two tracks is My Bloody Valentine covering Wire's "Outdoor Miner", the other one I can't remember. But it's been voted a miss, so it doesn't really matter.

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Originally Posted by Pookie
And back to the good stuff. You Don't Miss Your Water... but I don't know who this is. Sounds a bit like The Triffids or that kind of thing. I really like his voice (I mention vocals a lot don't I?). Really good version of this song.

The Triffids it is. I adore this song.

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Originally Posted by Pookie
The Jesus & Mary Chain. Can't remember the name of the song. As I've mentioned a few times here, I went to see them in 1985 but they were completely over-shadowed by the support band, a then little-known band called Sonic Youth. The last time I saw JAMC was 1998 and it was a sad thing to behold. They just couldn't be bothered to even try to look vaguely interested.

Not JAMC, but Jim Reid covering The Beatles "And Your Bird Can Sing" from the CD on the cover of one of the music monthlies a couple of months ago. I had forgotten what a beautiful voice he has until I heard this.

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Felt next with Primitive Painters. I had a friend and we used to do gig swaps. I'd go to see one of his bands, then he'd come & see one of mine. I took him to see Firehose, he took me to see Felt; I took him to see Henry Rollins, he took me to see Felt; I took him to see The Jesus Lizard, he took me to see Felt. Do you see where this is going? I couldn't believe how fanatical Felt fans were. And to get back to vocals, I couldn't stand Lawrence's voice. The only album of theirs I really liked was the instrumental one (Train Above The City?). This is a really good song though, with Liz Fraser on vocals.

I'm not a Felt fan, but Primitive Painters is a brilliant track because of the contrast between Laurence's dour disinterest and Liz Fraser's soaring passion. A mid-80's masterpiece.

I'm glad you (mostly) enjoyed side one. I made it more with American youth in mind, a sort of an introduction to what was going on in in the UK in the '80s. Side two I compiled as a contrast to the pop direction of side one. Somehow I suspect it won't have hit the spot quite so well, particularly bearing in mind the number of times you've mentioned vocals so far. But we shall see.

The tape that I've been sent to listen to arrived at my girlfriend's yesterday (I have most of my post sent there because my own postman finds walking up the stairs to my flat too much like hard work and just leaves my letters at the bottom of the stairs where anyone can pick them up), so I'll get to listen to it today.

porkmarras 08.10.2006 03:28 AM

I've recieved mine yesterday and it's from Danny Himself.Very sweet and more of that later.

porkmarras 08.10.2006 07:35 AM

It was a bit of an invisible jukebox thing because i didn't have any tracklisting.Anyway,on it i've found the Ramones,Belle and Sebastian,NWA,Interpol,Pavement,Catpower,Beck,The Stone roses,Miles Davis(?) and a few more that i hope Danny himself will tell us as about as i'm not too sure.I quite enjoyed listening to it and the kid spent 4 hours making it wich i've found very sweet.What is the last track on side 2?That is an ace tune but i don't recall knowing it at all.

gmku 08.10.2006 08:59 AM

Hip Priest, the mystery track is No-Neck Blues Band, "The Doon," from Qvaris.

Hip Priest 08.10.2006 09:02 AM

Thanks mate. I'm too busy in work today due to short staffing, but I'll check that out this evening.

That was a really nice tape. It was good to have so much that I hadn't heard before.

I don't suppose you know what the ambient beepy bit was, on the FM scan?

gmku 08.10.2006 09:04 AM

No, I don't. Sorry. That was from the college radio station here. They're not good about backlisting their songs--I stayed on the airwaves a while to find out, cuz I really liked it too, but they never ran down their playlist, the slackers!

Glad you like the tape--in spite of Teenage Fanclub!

porkmarras 08.10.2006 09:08 AM

What's wrong with Teenage Fanclub?They are one of the best inoffensive bands that the man on the street could ask for.I'll listen to 'Mellow doubt' right now to prove it cause the phone's gone dead today.

Hip Priest 08.10.2006 09:12 AM

They're smelly pooballs, that's wrong with them.

Stilluppsteypa, on the other hand, are pretty ace, and I'm going to re-record their four tracks onto another tape until I find some of their stuff for sale.

And I will keep the mixtape in my collection for future listening, of course.

sonicl 08.10.2006 09:15 AM

I now have the tape that Pookie sent me. If you are a fan of Latvian folk tales, as adapted by Amy Friedman and illustrated by Jillian Gilliland, I am the recipient of your mixtape. I do my research you see. Don't reveal yet who you are though, I want to see if I can guess.

gmku 08.10.2006 09:15 AM

I procured the Stillupps... EP from Pookie, by the way. I've been trying to track down more of their stuff, too. They do indeed rock it.

Teenage Fanclub. What can I say? I love Bandwagonesque. Slip into the disc player some quiet, snowy December afternoon, and it's perfect. I'm like 30 years younger and in love again with the girl down the hallway standing at her locker.

Hip Priest 08.10.2006 09:19 AM

Each to their own. I love the Sugababes and Paddington Bear, and biscuits in the shape of cute little animals. And do I feel embarrassed? No way.

Pookie 08.10.2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I procured the Stillupps... EP from Pookie, by the way. I've been trying to track down more of their stuff, too. They do indeed rock it.

Teenage Fanclub. What can I say? I love Bandwagonesque. Slip into the disc player some quiet, snowy December afternoon, and it's perfect. I'm like 30 years younger and in love again with the girl down the hallway standing at her locker.


I don't want you to feel like we're ganging up on you, but surely the endless puns alone should have put you off. Mind you, I did like the record they made with Jad Fair. But I think that was more down to Jad than them.

Pookie 08.10.2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
One of these two tracks is My Bloody Valentine covering Wire's "Outdoor Miner", the other one I can't remember. But it's been voted a miss, so it doesn't really matter.


I'm glad you (mostly) enjoyed side one. I made it more with American youth in mind, a sort of an introduction to what was going on in in the UK in the '80s. Side two I compiled as a contrast to the pop direction of side one. Somehow I suspect it won't have hit the spot quite so well, particularly bearing in mind the number of times you've mentioned vocals so far. But we shall see.



I really enjoyed side one. I've never been a fan of MBV, but I didn't recognise it as them or as a Wire cover. I'll have to listen closer next time.

And because your tape stayed in the UK, I'll make sure the next one definitely goes overseas. I don't know if that will affect your choices.

gmku 08.10.2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
I don't want you to feel like we're ganging up on you, but surely the endless puns alone should have put you off. Mind you, I did like the record they made with Jad Fair. But I think that was more down to Jad than them.


Me and Spin magazine, both completely gullible back in 1991, I guess.

sonicl 08.10.2006 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I now have the tape that Pookie sent me. If you are a fan of Latvian folk tales, as adapted by Amy Friedman and illustrated by Jillian Gilliland, I am the recipient of your mixtape. I do my research you see. Don't reveal yet who you are though, I want to see if I can guess.

I think I'm going to need a tracklisting here, there's some incredibly obscure stuff on this tape. I've recognised Elvis Costello, Michael Gira and what I suspect is Pussy Galore. There's a bit of jazz in there, some afrobeat-ish sort of stuff, and a fair smattering of post-punk. It's rather like listening to an edition of the John Peel show, just without the man himself, and for this reason I suspect that either Hip Priest or Glice may be the evil genius behind it. Come on out whoever you are, show your face.

porkmarras 08.10.2006 01:11 PM

Glice?

Hip Priest 08.10.2006 01:37 PM

Could be. Mine's not evil genius, mine's lovely genius.

Hip Priest 08.10.2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
Hip Priest, the mystery track is No-Neck Blues Band, "The Doon," from Qvaris.


It's very nice. Here's what happened:

On the first listen, I didn't refer to the tracklisting. Somehow, on the second listen (when I was writing my comments), I must have missed a vital bit. A telephone call, I think. I won't bore you with the details. Anyway, on the tracklisting you have Royal Trux listed as before Velvet Underground, when in fact they are after Velvet Underground. So my comments on Royal Trux in the review were actually on No Neck Blues Band! Bear in mind, I'd never heard either band before, so I was ignorant of the distinction.

On listening again today, I realised that there was what appeared to be an extra track before Velvet Underground. I confirmed by checking a sample of NNBB's Doon online. Gosh.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.10.2006 09:39 PM

Latvian folk tales are great, and impressed you were able to figure that out with only two clues to go by.

Sonicl, comrade, the tape you have is mine. I hope 'evil genius' compliment is a good thing. You were dead one with Elvis Costello, Micheal Gira (Angels of Light), and Pussy Galore. It seems as though you haven't listened to Side B yet, so I'll wait until then to reveal the juicy details.

"Its rather like listening to an edition of the John Peel show, just without the man himself" Why, thank you!

sonicl 08.11.2006 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Next track:

No idea again, psychedelicish, the only track so far that doesn't do a great deal for me - nice enough though. The vocals leave me cold - I think that's why - a bit weedy.

And the next track suffers from the same kind of weedy vocals & doesn't seem to go anywhere.


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Originally Posted by sonicl
One of these two tracks is My Bloody Valentine covering Wire's "Outdoor Miner", the other one I can't remember. But it's been voted a miss, so it doesn't really matter.

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Originally Posted by Pookie
I really enjoyed side one. I've never been a fan of MBV, but I didn't recognise it as them or as a Wire cover. I'll have to listen closer next time.

The other "weedy vocal" track was A R Kane's "Baby Milk Snatcher".

I've just realised that you missed a track in your review. I was particularly pleased with that one. Go back, re-listen, and review, please!

Pookie 08.11.2006 04:06 AM

I knew I'd missed one, I had to think about it.

I keep finding myself humming several songs from your tape. All the ones I'd not heard before.

sonicl 08.11.2006 04:18 AM

Going back to Loop, if you saw PWEI live just around the release of Box Frenzy, there's a possibility that you may have seen Loop then, as they supported them on tour at that time. That was when I first saw them. I fell asleep during PWEI's set and when I awoke found that I was leaning against Robert Hampson.

Pookie 08.11.2006 04:32 AM

I didn't see PWEI until the second album. I'm pretty sure I only saw Loop the one time, I wish I'd paid more attention now.

I think I'm going to wait until I get back to work on Monday before having a proper listen to Side Two of your tape. I don't get many uninterrupted periods at home. Then I'll continue my really lengthy, and possibly tedious to most, review.

gmku 08.11.2006 08:41 AM

Hip P, sorry about the track confusion. If this mislabeling occured on a real LP release, you'd have a collector's item on your hands!

Hip Priest 08.11.2006 12:05 PM

There's only ever been one copy of 'Wake the Dead' ever made, and it has a mislabelling. That makes it double valuable.

gmku 08.11.2006 02:33 PM

Hold on to that mother!

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.11.2006 03:15 PM

I was hoping my tape would have arrived today. Oh well.

More waiting. Waiting on top of the waiting for sonicl to review my tape more completely, if he plans to do so. I've got nothing but time...

Pookie 08.11.2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест
I was hoping my tape would have arrived today. Oh well.

More waiting. Waiting on top of the waiting for sonicl to review my tape more completely, if he plans to do so. I've got nothing but time...


I think Monday or Tuesday might be more realistic for the USA. I'm sure people over here are digesting their tapes properly before committing to comments. From what sonicl has said, yours sounds good/interesting. I look forward to his review.

gmku 08.11.2006 03:36 PM

No tape in my mailbox yet either. This is like waiting for Christmas.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.11.2006 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
No tape in my mailbox yet either. This is like waiting for Christmas.


You're in Iowa, right? I imagine we'll get ours on the same day.

Hip Priest 08.11.2006 05:53 PM

I'm very keen to find out if mine went transatlantic.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.11.2006 06:45 PM

Well, I think there are only three tapes still out there. Yours, Glice, and Porky, so I assume that means gmku, Finding Nobody, and I will get those. But which one?

Pookie 08.11.2006 06:48 PM

And mine.


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