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!@#$%! 06.15.2015 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
YES

(Ha! I get to be first. I'm so proud. Can I self-rep?)


yes. you can even give birth to your own father if you want

Keeping It Gimple 06.15.2015 05:04 PM

riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend
of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
the Sonic Castle and Environs.

!@#$%! 06.15.2015 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping It Gimple
riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend
of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
the Sonic Castle and Environs.


taht's the wake! i can't read that.

punch an english soldier tonight.

actually, attack him with your ashplant!

gmku 06.23.2015 01:56 PM

The Elements of Style by William Strunk Jr. and E.B. White.

I am one of those who feel that re-reading this book is not only a necessary task but a pleasurable pursuit as well, a worthy way to spend one's time. I return this book almost every year, giving it a full re-reading each time.

Up next: a few chapters in On Writing Well by William Zinsser.

Rob Instigator 06.23.2015 02:02 PM

 


and

 


I will review once completed.

!@#$%! 06.23.2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I am one of those who feel that re-reading this book is not only necessary but a pleasurable pursuit as well, a worthy way to spend one's time.


yes, with some books yes. but then don't you feel you outgrow some things eventually though? as a teenager i must have read demian & steppenwolf several times, as if trying to decipher a secret code. now i no longer feel i need them. same with with nietzsche which i read & reread & underlined & quoted for nearly a decade. now i feel i've outgrown him, in a way. borges too, i started reading him at 13 or 14 and i'd be absolutely enthralled. i enjoyed rereading him all the way through gradschool but then his style became too obvious to me, i can't explain. william blake-- i used to carry his proverbs of hell during college like a pocket knife, and for similar uses. now it's been years since i've felt the urge. things change.

of course with age one discovers new readings and meanings-- but eventually, i don't know, things become a part of us and we don't need to look at them from the outside-- we reformulate them internally instead. am i making sense? (doubtful, but there it goes anyway).

gmku 06.23.2015 02:17 PM

The Strunk/White book, though, is essential to me, to my work. It's the bible, or one of them.

For better or for worse, I really do need reminders on some of the style rules. The chapters on composition are worth their weight in paper pulp. Writing is hard work, and I need all the help I can get. This little book has come to my rescue many times. It can also unleash me, get my creativity going, because it helps me think about what good sentences sound like, what a pleasure it is to read them, and how rewarding it is to write them.

 

evollove 06.23.2015 02:26 PM

You should check this out. Dude is a tad boring, but he ends up inspiring. Yes, a well-crafted sentence can be as beautiful as any painting.

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/cours...r-s-craft.html

Oh wait. Professor Brooks Landon Ph.D. from University of Iowa. Do you know him?

gmku 06.23.2015 02:40 PM

Yes! I do. I've interviewed him a few times. EDIT: Dammit, I keep forgetting this is the Internet. I can't reveal too much of myself out here these days, job-security wise. PM me if you want interesting details.

Rob Instigator 06.26.2015 04:32 PM

Finished Flatland. Great stuff and quite synchronous with what happened today in USA http://rxttbooks.blogspot.com/2015/0...hat-still.html

!@#$%! 06.26.2015 05:01 PM

 


aaron gustafson - adaptive web design

2nd edition is not yet available so i'm reading the free 1st edition on the author's website.

barely started it but the intro makes so much sense.

gmku 06.26.2015 06:33 PM

I love Howard the Duck. I need to get more of those comic books from the first series, or a compilation of some kind.

pony 06.30.2015 01:53 PM

From friday on, I will be free until october, which means I'll have the whole summer to read books. Any recommendations?
So far I put Elaine Kahn's Women in Public, and Mina Loy's Insel on my list. But i want more! Maybe I'll finally read the big Anne Sexton book I have?..

gmku 06.30.2015 01:57 PM

Lolita
Speak, Memory
Rabbit, Run
92 in the Shade (Thomas McGuane)
Nine Stories by J. D. Salinger
The Great Gatsby
The Sun Also Rises
Absolom, Absolom!

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pony
From friday on, I will be free until october, which means I'll have the whole summer to read books. Any recommendations?
So far I put Elaine Kahn's Women in Public, and Mina Loy's Insel on my list. But i want more! Maybe I'll finally read the big Anne Sexton book I have?..


you mostly read women yes?

then anything by susan sontag is great. (well, i haven't read her novel actually-- she had a novel yeah? but her criticism is just great)

erica jong was great great 70s fun-- fear of flying is a classic-- i should reread it for the lulz.

do you read in spanish? french?

YOURCENAR. YOURCENAR. YOURCENAR.

will share more if you explain more. random recommendations are like going to a pharmacy and asking for "pills".

gmku 06.30.2015 01:59 PM

You could become eduated about gangs: http://www.ngcrc.com/ngcrc/gfactp.pdf

gmku 06.30.2015 02:00 PM

You could also read some fo the 33 1/3 books on record albums.

gmku 06.30.2015 02:00 PM

How about some John LeCarre spy novels?

pony 06.30.2015 02:03 PM

Yes, i mostly read women.

I have a play by susan sontag, found it on the street..

I don't really know what to ask for, but I can tell you what I've liked in the last few months!
I liked joan didion's fiction and siri hustvedt! and i liked loorie moore, jean rhys.
I think you once recommended djuna barnes to me? I still have nightwood sitting somewhere...
i still have so many books to read, but i want to reward myself with new books.
I don't read in spanisch nor french. I forgot most of what I learned in school. Should try and take a class through university next semester...

pony 06.30.2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
How about some John LeCarre spy novels?

I am not really into spy novels!

33 1/3 could be worth a shot but i've heard most of them aren't really good? at least my friends said they were disappointed.
I once read the book by them about celine dion's let's talk about love for a book club. That was funny.. but I think i'd rather read some fiction after having to work with facts for the last few weeks...

gmku 06.30.2015 02:08 PM

Well, then, I guess I can't really help you.

evollove 06.30.2015 02:09 PM

I think you're a prime candidate for:

Pushcart Prize
The O. Henry Prize Stories
Best American Short Stories

Each year, each title puts out their top 20 literary shorts. PUSHCART is best bang for the buck because essays and poetry are in there too. Best quality too, I think. But all are a good way to discover new voices and to check out what old favs are up to.

gmku 06.30.2015 02:11 PM

The Quiet American by Graham Greene

I want to re-read it this summer. Only reason I bring it up here.

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pony
Yes, i mostly read women.

I have a play by susan sontag, found it on the street..

I don't really know what to ask for, but I can tell you what I've liked in the last few months!
I liked joan didion's fiction and siri hustvedt! and i liked loorie moore, jean rhys.
I think you once recommended djuna barnes to me? I still have nightwood sitting somewhere...
i still have so many books to read, but i want to reward myself with new books.
I don't read in spanisch nor french. I forgot most of what I learned in school. Should try and take a class through university next semester...


sexist!

anyway

have you read jhumpa lahiri? the interpreter of maladies is a nice short story collection, and the namesake was a pretty good novel i though.

you read only fiction? what about poetry? no poetry?

o wait you said anne sexton... so yes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
I think you're a prime candidate for:

Pushcart Prize
The O. Henry Prize Stories
Best American Short Stories

Each year, each title puts out their top 20 literary shorts. PUSHCART is best bang for the buck because essays and poetry are in there too. Best quality too, I think. But all are a good way to discover new voices and to check out what old favs are up to.


this is good advice. also, you can tear off the men's pages & save space.

evollove 06.30.2015 02:12 PM

I already answered her question. You guys are wasting internet space.

evollove 06.30.2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
92 in the Shade (Thomas McGuane)


Is he a tough, Montana writer? Am I thinking of someone else? Lots of hunting stories, etc?

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
I already answered her question. You guys are wasting internet space.


gmku is on IRC

pony 06.30.2015 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sexist!

anyway

have you read jhumpa lahiri? the interpreter of maladies is a nice short story collection, and the namesake was a pretty good novel i though.

you read only fiction? what about poetry? no poetry?

o wait you said anne sexton... so yes?



this is good advice. also, you can tear off the men's pages & save space.


YUUUUUUS, poetry too!

gonna look into jhumpa lahiri right now
and evollove, your recommendations sound really good, i am sure i will get at least one of the collections.

and having all the pages full with the nonsense written by males is very practical. how else am I gonna keep warm at night if not with a fire?

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pony
YUUUUUUS, poetry too!

gonna look into jhumpa lahiri right now
and evollove, your recommendations sound really good, i am sure i will get at least one of the collections.

and having all the pages full with the nonsense written by males is very practical. how else am I gonna keep warm at night if not with a fire?


if you like poetry i have elizabeth bishop in very high esteem. she had such a great tikiti takata tikiti takata ear for rhythm. plus, she wrote very well.

you've read emily dickinson haven't you? haven't you? haven't you????????

and jorie graham is the current poetry boss, i think-- to paraphrase eliot, the queen of cats. anything by her, i suppose.

and you know what, even in translation in any language of your choice: YOURCENAR. YOURCENAR. YOURCENAR. makes most other writers look insignificant.

demonrail666 06.30.2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
erica jong was great great 70s fun-- fear of flying is a classic-- i should reread it for the lulz.


As much as it is a product of its time, I read it again a few years ago and it still holds up. She wrote another one, How to Save Your Own Life, which seems to have disappeared off the radar but if anything I might even prefer it over FoF. Can't go wrong with either though.

And if it's a woman-only list, how about Kate Chopin's The Awakening?

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
As much as it is a product of its time, I read it again a few years ago and it still holds up.


i read it for the first time only a few years ago and i laughed so hard

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
And if it's a woman-only list, how about Kate Chopin's The Awakening?

i think she had that for her thesis

pony 06.30.2015 03:36 PM

Kate Chopin is for my oral exam in september! But i like her, good writer!

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pony
Kate Chopin is for my oral exam in september! But i like her, good writer!


i don't know if related works would matter to you but she features heavily on season 1 of "tremé"

i thought i'd metnion

demonrail666 06.30.2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i don't know if related works would matter to you but she features heavily on season 1 of "tremé"

i thought i'd metnion


Haha. That was how I first found out about her. It was all down to John Goodman. Truthfully.

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Haha. That was how I first found out about her. It was all down to John Goodman. Truthfully.


edna pontellier was emma bovary but she wasn't just derivative--chopin wrote it from a woman's point of view and that makes all the difference.

speaking of early feministas, who wrote the yellow wallpaper?

the pony has to read that.

schizophrenicroom 06.30.2015 09:10 PM

reading wuthering heights

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
reading wuthering heights


oh, excellent!

one of my favorites ever

was going to recommend it to das pony but forgot

schizophrenicroom 06.30.2015 10:01 PM

i always kinda preferred the brontes to jane austen (but i love both)

!@#$%! 06.30.2015 10:06 PM

never been able to stay awake with jane austen

maybe some day, ha ha...

schizophrenicroom 06.30.2015 10:28 PM

i've tried- i love pride and prejudice and emma, but prefer to watch (including clueless.)

i dunno, maybe it's the goth in me. i'm also making my way through some flannery o'connor short stories again.


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