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ilduclo 05.29.2017 09:16 AM

How bout " thanks for the memories"?

_tunic_ 05.29.2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Then I got jury duty notification.

Oh man, I'm so jealous! We don't have the juries over here, and it seems so much fun! At least that's what I learned from the Simpsons

 


 


 


 

_tunic_ 05.30.2017 11:42 AM

And the advice for today is:

Be Kinder To Your Vagina



that's what you end up at when you google for TOTM, which is also the name of the support band I'll be going to on Friday. They have one EP out on Soundcloud, it's weird but quite OK. Styles are all over the place, from CSNY harmonies to Nils Frahm, to Mogwai / 65daysofstatic post-rock. And that even in the same song!
Anyway, so their website is probably not https://www.totm.com/

edit: this video of them is quite brilliant: https://vimeo.com/193427577

evollove 05.31.2017 02:52 PM

Anyone ever experiment with CBD?

Cannabidiol (CBD) is a non-psychoactive component of Cannabis that seems to have a wide range of therapeutic benefits.

I keep getting spam trying to sell me CBD Gummie Bears. I'm really, really tempted.

Rob Instigator 05.31.2017 03:00 PM

CBD's are one type of chemical found in weed. THC is another. CBD's provide physical effects, reducing pain, swelling, providing appetite, etc. THC is a mental/nervous system effect. If you eat CBD gummies you will feel therapeutic effects but you will NOT get high.

opponents of marihuana reform claim that CBD's are the only good to come out of weed and that all the weed sold in dispensaries for recreational use is devoid of CBD's so it is "bad." so stupid. Two different chemicals for two different effects.

evollove 05.31.2017 03:14 PM

Yes. I know. Ever eaten any? I want to hear some real world experiences.

EVOLghost 05.31.2017 03:28 PM

I've had edibles, but none with strictly CBD. I think most edibles are basically made for medicinal purposes. It's a little hard for me to get high even though they're primarily THC.

Rob Instigator 05.31.2017 04:08 PM

I have. it eased road soreness (driving for 9 hours) and allowed me to fall asleep quickly

evollove 06.01.2017 06:03 AM

Sweet. I love being high, but sleep and appetite and general relaxation are good too. I'm gonna buy a few different brands til I find my favorite. Thanks.

Severian 06.01.2017 06:32 AM

So... you can use these CBDs to relieve pain/exhaustion/stress without actually having the godawful experience of being stoned?

WHERE DO I GET?
HOW MUCH?
Legalish?

evollove 06.01.2017 07:11 AM

You interested?

Yeah, I've come across enough "Legal in all 50 states!" to convince me.

I google "CBD Gummies" and get a bunch of results.

So far I've learned Diamond brand uses weird synthetics and should be avoided.

Let's team up and figure this out. Could be a life-changer.

EVOLghost 06.01.2017 08:27 AM

So....it looks like I'll be moving at the end of the summer? Or at least planning to.

Washington is the destination.

Severian 06.01.2017 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
You interested?

Yeah, I've come across enough "Legal in all 50 states!" to convince me.

I google "CBD Gummies" and get a bunch of results.

So far I've learned Diamond brand uses weird synthetics and should be avoided.

Let's team up and figure this out. Could be a life-changer.


It's legitimately legal? How about federally?

If it's legal then goddamn right I'm interested. I have to take a few medications to help with pain, stress, sleep and other issues, so I'm always open to alternatives that won't be habit forming or mildly life-controlling. I'm on baby doses of these things (all long-term, legal, legit prescriptions mind you) but they still pose a problem in that I have to plan my life around not running out, or forgetting to call for refills. I would especially love to be rid of the pain med, because I fear the "epidemic" rhetoric is going to lead to a witch hunt and that lgood doctors and people with legitimate pain problems will suffer.

I fucking hate getting high... makes me freak the fuck out.

My girlfriend sometimes has "gummies," but to hear her talk about it, they definitely fuck people up, so perhaps she's talking about THC edibles?

I know CBDs have been shown to be effective anti-seizure treatments for children, but I didn't know they helped with pain, sleep, stress.

First things first: How legal are they and do they require a Rx?

!@#$%! 06.01.2017 09:19 AM

really quickly to say since cannabidiol is not psychoactive it's been already been prescribed for years & years already to various kinds of terminal patients

if you just want a cannabidiol-heavy weed get an indica, though that's not as reliable/consistent as a purified compound obviously

but why not want to get high? that's the best part ha ha ha ha

...

well, yeah, okay

evollove 06.01.2017 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

First things first: How legal are they and do they require a Rx?


I guess only THC is illegal, not the other stuff. Who knew.

Based on light research, it is perfectly legal. No rx needed.

Here's one company's page, just to give you an idea. I'm not vouching for this particular brand. In fact, I was hoping someone else could tell me where to go and where to avoid.

https://www.wellspringcbd.com/iris-g...-cbd-chewables

EVOLghost 06.01.2017 09:44 AM

CBD is legal?

Severian 06.01.2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
I guess only THC is illegal, not the other stuff. Who knew.

Based on light research, it is perfectly legal. No rx needed.

Here's one company's page, just to give you an idea. I'm not vouching for this particular brand. In fact, I was hoping someone else could tell me where to go and where to avoid.

https://www.wellspringcbd.com/iris-g...-cbd-chewables


Wait, THC is legal but not CBD? But light research says CBD is legal?

Speak words, man!

Rob Instigator 06.01.2017 11:02 AM

in Texas CBD's are allowed for some severe medical cases.

Severian 06.01.2017 07:00 PM

Ok, so the non-druggy shit is illegal, and the druggy shit is legal?

Makes perfect sense.

Well, that fucking sucks. I'm not doing any illegal stuff.

!@#$%! 06.01.2017 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Ok, so the non-druggy shit is illegal, and the druggy shit is legal?

Makes perfect sense.

Well, that fucking sucks. I'm not doing any illegal stuff.

it's the other way around man

both are drugs

the psychoactive stuff is illegal in most states right now (but that should change)

the non-psychoactive stuff is legal with prescription and the scientists are working on it

basically, medical marijuana is kinda like XIX century medicine. arnica tincture. root decoctions. eye of newt.

what science is trying to do is isolate the compounds and put them into a pill/patch/injection/whatever for maximum benefits and minimum side effects.

personally, i want side effects! makes ideas more vivid. but if say i'm an astronaut who develops pain while doing a 6-month stint at an orbital station maybe the psychoactive parts are best avoided. right?

which makes me wonder how many people have gotten stoned in space. there's gotta be a few. confess!

anyway other uses: sea captains. heart surgeons. electrical linemen. etc.

Severian 06.02.2017 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
it's the other way around man

both are drugs

the psychoactive stuff is illegal in most states right now (but that should change)

the non-psychoactive stuff is legal with prescription and the scientists are working on it

basically, medical marijuana is kinda like XIX century medicine. arnica tincture. root decoctions. eye of newt.

what science is trying to do is isolate the compounds and put them into a pill/patch/injection/whatever for maximum benefits and minimum side effects.

personally, i want side effects! makes ideas more vivid. but if say i'm an astronaut who develops pain while doing a 6-month stint at an orbital station maybe the psychoactive parts are best avoided. right?

which makes me wonder how many people have gotten stoned in space. there's gotta be a few. confess!

anyway other uses: sea captains. heart surgeons. electrical linemen. etc.


No, no.. sorry, I know this. I've actually had a few really gnarly seizures in my time. Not enough to be epileptic, but enough to be on the lookout for any possible new treatments that don't completely dampen one's personality (like Dilantin, lithium) or cause a lot of unwanted side effects (Neurontin, Lyrica), or that aren't meds I'm already taking for anxiety that I "can't" take more for of for another reason.

I know where things stand with the psychoactive element of cannabis (hell man, I am from Washington after all ;) ), and I am (or thought I was) up-to-date on the non-THC cannibanoids or whatever. My comment was just a response to confusing posts here in this thread.

But I get it — the CBDs are being still in the testing phase, so while some results might be available, they're still not legal, because nobody knows exactly what the fuck to do with them yet.

But evollove had me perking up when it seemed that he was suggesting that CBD edibles were somehow on the market and legal. I know THC edibles are on the market and legal in places. I know that the legality of THC is in a really confusing state of constant flux, where municipalities and such can choose to open dispensaries, even in non fully-recreational states, but that those decisions are always in danger of being shut down by existing federal restrictions.

As for getting high in space ...
(sidenote: this is why I love talking to you... we start on one topic, and end up talking about how astronauts get fucked up. You can't ask for more interesting conversation)

... I'm, like, 99.999% sure that anyone venturing into the big black goes with a fully stocked medicine cabinet. Space madness is a real thing! You can bet your motherloving arse that our pioneering helmeted-heroes head into the void with more Valium, morphine, anti-convulsants, sleep medications, muscle relaxants and, likely, high-potency smart drugs and amphetamines than they could hope to take in a lifetime.

Plus, I'll bet they have a shit-ton of crazy space-drugs made just for this purpose by NASA. Probably no weed, but I'll bet there's at least some kind of superdrug that kills pain, relieves anxiety, stimulates focus, increases strength, and so on ALL AT ONCE. :eek:
Basically, I'll bet they have the Limitless drug, and I'll bet it fucking rocks, and does everything you need it to.

So... after writing that paragraph, I've decided to join NASA as a drug monkey. I'll write about my experience and make a best-seller out of it.

These are great ideas I'm having. Who needs weed? :cool:

Severian 06.02.2017 09:10 AM

Yah, I know they're both drugs too. But THC is "druggy" and CBDs are, ostensibly, not. By "druggy" I mean psychotropic. I could well be wrong, but it seems the studies I've read on non-THC cannabanoids in regard to their effectiveness as treatments for pain and epilepsy in children, point to a distinctly non-up-fucking.

And I *hate* being fucked up in the way that THC fucks a guy up.

evollove 06.02.2017 09:11 AM

What the fuck? Am I that shitty a writer? Did you even click the link I provided? Fucking CBD chewables. Fucking says at the bottom "Wellspring does not sell or distribute any products that are in violation of the US Controlled Substances Act."

https://www.wellspringcbd.com/iris-g...-cbd-chewables


Neg repped and banned. Again.

---

I love being high.

But at the end of the day when I have nothing else to do.

Stress/anxiety reduction and other benefits would be a big help for the rest of the day. I got shit to do and can't be baked all the time. I'm still excited about this.

EVOLghost 06.02.2017 09:47 AM

Being able to find a good sativa helps me throughout the day. But that shit is hard to find on the streets....most are indica majority hybrids. A lot of dealers just throw made up names at ya or don't even really care for strains.

evollove 06.02.2017 12:15 PM

I simply can't be bothered with daily tasks when I'm high. I know some people like to smoke up and clean the house or whatever, but I'm very much the opposite. And leaving the house to run an errand? Forget about it.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2017 01:10 PM

some weed is good for "mota-vation" if you need to do repetitive or arduous tasks, such as house cleaning, fruit picking, etc. That's what people in the service indstry tell me. trhe kind of weed i smoke is no good for that. it is more for deragement...... now to go spin some new lil' boat......

!@#$%! 06.02.2017 01:19 PM

[quote=Rob Instigator]"mota-vation" /QUOTE]

haaaaa aaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa

took me like 10 seconds to get that, i confess

!@#$%! 06.02.2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Yah, I know they're both drugs too. But THC is "druggy" and CBDs are, ostensibly, not. By "druggy" I mean psychotropic. I could well be wrong, but it seems the studies I've read on non-THC cannabanoids in regard to their effectiveness as treatments for pain and epilepsy in children, point to a distinctly non-up-fucking.

And I *hate* being fucked up in the way that THC fucks a guy up.


ha ha, you said it backwards tho. read above. you said "ok, so the non-druggy stuff is illegal...?" etc

but anyway

how does THC fuck a guy up? too much paranoias?

EVOLghost 06.02.2017 01:37 PM

Paranoia and tiredness are main complaints I've heard.

!@#$%! 06.02.2017 01:47 PM

the paranoia should go away once it's legal everywhere, i imagine

i mean all the paranoia is always about "omfg im stoned and people are gonna know" and having to do shit in hiding. but go to colorado, and blam, no, it's all good

as for tiredeness--that's what happens at the end of any exertion, and a mental exertion is no exception. right?

!@#$%! 06.02.2017 01:55 PM

eta: apparently not so much!

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ranoia/490559/

Severian 06.02.2017 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
What the fuck? Am I that shitty a writer? Did you even click the link I provided? Fucking CBD chewables. Fucking says at the bottom "Wellspring does not sell or distribute any products that are in violation of the US Controlled Substances Act."

https://www.wellspringcbd.com/iris-g...-cbd-chewables


Neg repped and banned. Again.



Ah... well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
I guess only THC is illegal, not the other stuff. Who knew.

Based on light research, it is perfectly legal. No rx needed


^^^ this is not very clearly written. I didn't click your link, but Jesus man. It reads as though you're contradicting yourself. Like, immediately.

But no worries. I mean, unless you're worried about clarity and making sense ;)

P.s. Your ass better not have neg repped me. I've only neg repped THREE assholes in my history on this board, and boy oh boy did they deserve it. You were not one of them.

Also I've never been banned.

Wait, do you think I'm pepper_green? Please don't think that. That would hurt.

Severian 06.02.2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ha ha, you said it backwards tho. read above. you said "ok, so the non-druggy stuff is illegal...?" etc

but anyway

how does THC fuck a guy up? too much paranoias?


Yeah. The CBDs are the "non-druggy stuff." The THC is most definitely "druggy." Evollove said only the THC was legal (then, "Who knew?") So, THC = legal(ish... in some places). CBD = not legal.

I don't think I did say it backwards, but maybe...?

LOTS of misunderstandings today. I think we're all perfectly stoned and don't need to worry about procuring new methods for fuckedupedness.

Also, are you really asking how THC fucks someone up?
Have you ever smoked pot? 'Cuz that's how. By "fucked up" I mean "stoned."

...

What's happening right now? Did I just type all of that out loud?

!@#$%! 06.02.2017 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Yeah. The CBDs are the "non-druggy stuff." The THC is most definitely "druggy." Evollove said only the THC was legal (then, "Who knew?") So, THC = legal(ish... in some places). CBD = not legal.

I don't think I did say it backwards, but maybe...?

LOTS of misunderstandings today. I think we're all perfectly stoned and don't need to worry about procuring new methods for fuckedupedness.

Also, are you really asking how THC fucks someone up?
Have you ever smoked pot? 'Cuz that's how. By "fucked up" I mean "stoned."

...

What's happening right now? Did I just type all of that out loud?


i read it how you meant it as something negative

like-- too much rum will fuck you up in a true way.

getting stoned is a true boon. unless you're in the army

noisereductions 06.02.2017 10:12 PM

Isn't it weird all the people who used to post here? It's like in high school you think you'll know those people forever and one day you realize how many years it's been.

Severian 06.03.2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i read it how you meant it as something negative

like-- too much rum will fuck you up in a true way.

getting stoned is a true boon. unless you're in the army


Gotcha. I get that.

Getting stoned is NOT a boon for me though. It happened a few weeks ago... entirely by accident, actually, and holy WOW was I unprepared for that shit. I'm way too anxious for what weed does to the brain. Even when I'm completely sober I tend to idle very high, so being stoned is actually kind of a nightmare for me.

Wasn't when I was younger, and I did it every day and built a tolerance, but I also (no joke) went almost an entire year without reading a book from beginning to end when I was smoking daily. I usually read constantly, and I was back to slammin' novels like shots within a week or so of having no THC in my system.

Dumb stuff.

!@#$%! 06.03.2017 03:28 PM

you know what gives me anxiety, fucking insufferable anxiety?

this champions league final

i can't stop watching but i have to look away but i can't stop watching etc

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...

anyway will answer the rest later

h8kurdt 06.03.2017 04:06 PM

That's the beauty of football, man

noisereductions 06.03.2017 04:07 PM

what is champions league? I don't pay attention to esports. I tried to watch Heroes Of The Dorm one year and it was like they were playing a different game than the one I'd played. Wow.

EDIT: Oh soccer? Haha. Sorry. No idea. "Champions League" sounds like an esport haha.

!@#$%! 06.03.2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
what is champions league? I don't pay attention to esports. I tried to watch Heroes Of The Dorm one year and it was like they were playing a different game than the one I'd played. Wow.

EDIT: Oh soccer? Haha. Sorry. No idea. "Champions League" sounds like an esport haha.


it's like FIFA but with real humans :D


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