I saw "Split" this weekend. I liked it. Then I watched the documentary Breaking A Monster, pretty solid documentary about a trio of teens in a rock band that's on Netflix.

I love Snatch. Love it. Don't necessarily love Guy Ritchie, but I do enjoy that film. Good stuff.

Trying to think of more Grosse Point Blank-like movies. I'm spacing a bit.

Movies that are decidedly not brilliant but still solid, feature a lot of violence and a lot of comedy, and have sweet soundtracks... hmm..

Ever seen Black Snake Moan?



What about Layercake?

Oh hey, I've got one! Think it's a good'un too, for what you're looking for, Slambang (re: Grosse Point-esque, good old fashioned kinda dumb action fun)

Have you seen the Nice Guys?

Mystery Date from 1991 starring Ethan Hawke comes to mind. Fun, action comedy with a soundtrack including Sonic Youth and not one, not two, but three INXS songs for some reason.

I started watching Nice Guys, but it was too much of the enjoying brutality to me, having had my arm broken once, it just has like ZERO fucking humor for me...

wow so many responses. hm... let's see...

BLACK SNAKE MOAN i've seen. he chains the nympho ha ha ha. 10 kinds of wrong. not a terrible moive.

LAYERCAKE first time i even hear of it but will investigate

THE NICE GUYS i'm having netflix recommend it and i'll try to check it out (sorry ilducio, won't mention this again in front of you)

MYSTERY DATE sounds like it should go at the top of my list, right now

Near Dark

Feels pretty dated now but still a fave.

The beauty with Elmore Leonard is pretty much everyone's portrayed negatively

i've never read him, and i know i should

in the movie though, chili palmer comes across as mr. cool, and every brown person is an asshole as i recall. but that was from my paper on "race" and "representation." ugh, that subject. gets exhausting.

i remember i put get shorty right along with "clear and present danger" where another bolivian (of all nationalities) is the evil anti-jack-ryan. like, literally he wears the same clothes but in red instead of blue. lololol hollywood.

gets worse as you put the movies side by side because the indian-looking bolivian of get shorty is a sweaty dumbfuck and the white bolivian of the fascist thriller is a very smart but morally bankrupt supervillain. "race" gets further encrusted.

and btw, fuck my education. not that it's good to be blind to those things, but when it's the only perspective that gets hammered over & over & over it just makes you bitter and it gets exhausting.

e.g., for years i couldn't laugh at fawlty towers because all i saw was manuel as a negatively portrayed caricature of an oppressed minority, a kind of permanent reminder of trafalgar, ha ha ha ha. which is... somewhat true, but... come on! that's a monomaniacal view--and for that very reason, extremely obtuse.

Still better than majority of modern vampire flicks.

King Georges

shit, I worked for this guy (as a dishwasher)!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aj-H--kuZo

ho-leee-shiiiit

I GOTTA SEE THAT!!!

The Bible is the founding document for the Moral world that most of us live in. I read the Bible as a kid in sunday school. my father was an Episcopal Priest and I was an acolyte until age 17.

I re-read the Bible again in University, including the standard aprocrypha, around age 20, for a very cool class called the History of the Bible. It was awesome class. The old Rabbi that taught it explained how, as far as the writers of the old testament were concerned, god created eve to keep adam from fucking the vaginas and assholes of the warm animals he had dominion over.

I re-re-read the Bible again around age 37 or so, after reading the Old Testament volume of Isaac Asimov's Guide to The Bible. (that book is two volumes, Old Testament Guide around 1300 pgs, and the New testament volume about 1400 pages)

why is that so hard to believe?

Most religious people read the Bible constantly, their whole life, and may read and re-read it dozens of times.

I do not believe in anything though, but I do appreciate the wisdom found in many religious texts.

The Golden Bough was over 1300 pages, and I did nOT read the 14 volume edition!

The Story of Religious Controversy by Joseph McCabe is 990+ pages. heavy shit!

I love long books.

There we go. Makes sense now.

For the record I didn't not believe you. I just wondered why anyone other than a religious scholar or a student or a would bother to read the Bible SEVERAL TIMES. I know you can do it, that wasn't what I was doubting. The why is what made me wonder.

I don't think Sunday School really counts. And I too read chunks of the Bible in college (my minor was philosophy with an emphasis on religion as an undergrad), but cover to cover... multiple times? That just appeals to me exactly ZERO.

If anything I'm impressed. Despite it's bad rap from intellectuals, the Bible has a lot of profound and powerful stuff in it, and calling it "dense" is just a very obvious understatement. But you're clearly very invested in learning, and that's badass.

... part of the reason why I thought you'd like Book of the New Sun, which can read a bit like a biblical text peppered with parables. Anyhoo... I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound combative or dismissive.

Most people who read the Bible are very selective, or otherwise they wouldn't call it a moral guide.

http://www.evilbible.com/

have you killed your slave yet?

anyway, back to the subject of this thread, tell us about that chef. he looks like an interesting "character" (as they say).

Probably Reservoir Dogs for the first time ever. I can see why it gets its hype, but ehhh. Not my style, which bodes badly for Pulp Fiction which I haven't seen before.

pulp fiction is waaay better than reservoir dogs. reservoir dogs got retro-hyped as a result.

i remember first time i saw pulp fiction i was nervous as shit for the first 45 minutes. because, at the time, it was fucking ultraviolent and disturbing. then i got the joke. then i laughed for the rest of the movie.

then again pulp fiction is very talky and it's mostly about the dialogue so that might not fly for you if the previous one didn't.

I find the irritating aspects of Tarantino's personality such an overbearing presence in his films now, that I can barely watch any of them anymore. Even ones I used to really like, like Jackie Brown - which he didn't even write the dialogue for.