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Antagon 03.04.2019 07:13 PM

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Hahaha!

My favourite Austrian animal story was a few months ago when there was a kangaroo hopping around and nobody had any idea where it had come from. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45407767


Whoa, Kirchschlag. I actually know that place. It's where I had to pick up some camera gear to take pictures at my prom back when I was still living in Upper Austria (They wouldn't let me use my own). It's also a low-key skiing region in winter. It's not too far away from a hilly part of the state capital Linz, which does indeed have a zoo. But no missing roos in that zoo according to the article. Weird. There is a legit Kangaroo farm somewhat outside Vienna, with permit and all. Went there once with my then-girlfriend who lived closeby. Oddly enough it was also a pretty hilly region. What is it with Austrian hill-dwellers and the obsession with keeping kangaroos?

!@#$%! 03.04.2019 07:25 PM

ostrogothstralia

choc e-Claire 03.04.2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Antagon
What is it with Austrian hill-dwellers and the obsession with keeping kangaroos?

I think it's more of a 'what is it with the world's obsession with Australia?' question.

I'm genuinely curious now. Why is there such an interest?

Antagon 03.04.2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I think it's more of a 'what is it with the world's obsession with Australia?' question.

I'm genuinely curious now. Why is there such an interest?



Just throwing in a guess here, but I suppose people view its (stereotypical) fauna and topographical features to be very unique. Which, in a way they are if you look at it from a perspective that didn't originate in Oceania. People are genuinely interested in things that seem "different" to what they are used to and they tend to romanticize such things or even completely distort them - be they cultural symbols, languages, spiritual faiths, particular animals or even entire countries.

On the one hand it's somewhat understandable, this fascination with what is different, but on the other hand I completely understand the frustration that comes with being on the receiving side of this fascination. Being presented as the "other", or "exotic" does indeed delve into a few of the less admireable human traits. It's quite patronizing. To a certain degree, every country has experienced that. People tend to romanticize what is new or different to them - take the first district of Vienna for instance - it's all Mozart, classical music and 17th to 19th Century decadence there - of course watered down, perfectly calculated and presented in a flashy way so it may attract tourists. It's how a lot of people see that town - quaint, oldtimey, decadent and full of classical music. It's just so nice, so "different".

Australia for some reason however seems to take the brunt of that way of thinking. I guess enough people see its most famous (globally perceived) cultural symbols, features and landmarks as somewhat insular and completely unique to that specific country and so "far away" from what they are used to. As simple as that may be and as dumb as that may sound.

choc e-Claire 03.04.2019 08:07 PM

It's all Crocodile Dundee's fault :D

In actuality, Australia isn't that different to Europe, at least in near the cities - Melbourne is roughly Berlin-sized in population, and we appear to have similar standards of living and culture and that.

when you move into the country it gets a little different though

Antagon 03.04.2019 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
It's all Crocodile Dundee's fault :D

In actuality, Australia isn't that different to Europe, at least in near the cities - Melbourne is roughly Berlin-sized in population, and we appear to have similar standards of living and culture and that.

when you move into the country it gets a little different though


Yeah, that's the actual situation. But unfortunately, those facts don't always factor into the popular conscience. Popular conscience is mostly dominated by exceptions or extraordinary examples - The Outback, Ayers Rock, all kinds of unique animals. The difference is only in the mind and tends to get exaggerated to no end. But it does make a quick buck, so that's why the focus shifts towards those outliers time and time again. "Similar standards of living and culture" doesn't sell vacations. "Whoa, look at all this crazy, different stuff!" does. And that's how an exaggerated fascination with Australia will probably continue to be a thing for ages.

And yeah, good old Paul might have had a role in that as well...
In more than just one way, actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95OovSKEtfs

choc e-Claire 03.04.2019 08:23 PM

You're right.
The animals are pretty unique, and something that makes sense for other countries to freak out about - I kinda just accept kangaroos because I've grown up in the same country as them (I've seen them in a carpark, for god's sake).
But the outback and Uluṟu (the non-colonialist name for the big rock) loom large in people's imagination.

It's like these cork hats. I see stereotypes of Aussies wearing them, but I have never seen one IRL.
 

Antagon 03.04.2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
You're right.
The animals are pretty unique, and something that makes sense for other countries to freak out about - I kinda just accept kangaroos because I've grown up in the same country as them (I've seen them in a carpark, for god's sake).



Exactly! What is mundane and what is "different" or "extraordinary" is relative to the environment one grew up in. I like using the example of Christmas when I talk about the subject. Imagine you're talking to someone that has never heard of Christmas and is wholly unfamiliar with christian symbols. "Oh well, towards the end of December we usually put a tree into our living room and decorate it with gaudy hangings, because of some carpenter that may or may not have lived some 2000 years ago.". Sounds pretty crazy if one is not familiar with the context. So everything you take for granted is relative and might be new and fascinating to someone else - in innocent and somewhat understandable as well as frustrating ways.

PS: You're right, gonna refer to it as Uluṟu from now on, the way it oughta be.

choc e-Claire 03.04.2019 08:38 PM

Haha.

Take my rep and go.

dirty bunny 03.05.2019 02:09 AM

the reason I don't post album covers in the "what are you listening to" thread is because I don't know how to post pictures.


Also, laziness.

choc e-Claire 03.05.2019 03:21 AM

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the reason I don't post album covers in the "what are you listening to" thread is because I don't know how to post pictures.


Also, laziness.

I usually look up the album review on AllMusic and get the photo from there.

right click - open image in new tab - copy link - remove everything after the jpg - insert into SYG post

Antagon 03.05.2019 09:21 AM

I've actually only encountered the stereotype of that particular hat being propagated once. And that was many years ago in a web-cartoon that was posted on livejournal. It depicted a cat wearing a cork hat and saying "Crikey" if I remember correctly, you know, laying it on thick. Apart from that I can't say I ever consciously encountered the stereotype. Though I might have subconsciously (IB4 someone posts a screenshot that shows it was actually in The Simpsons or something). But I'm sure there are plenty of pieces of media that repeat it ad nauseam. Just like the hills are always alive with the sound of music when Austria is being portrayed in pieces of entertainment media.

h8kurdt 03.05.2019 09:39 AM

Everything I know about Australia came from the fact based episode of the Simpsons. Also, I'll never forget when a Brit climbed up Ayers (I'm just calling it that cos im lazy) rock and had a shit up there. Did the British proud there. No idea what came of that actually.

!@#$%! 03.05.2019 09:50 AM

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Everything I know about Australia came from the fact based episode of the Simpsons. Also, I'll never forget when a Brit climbed up Ayers (I'm just calling it that cos im lazy) rock and had a shit up there. Did the British proud there. No idea what came of that actually.

tangential (it's the irrelevant thread), lemme recommend some moobys

peter weir’s picnic at hanging rock (original, have not seen derivatives), walkabout, the last wave, the plumber (lol, this one)

jane campion’s sweetie and holy smoke

nick cave’s the proposition

ten canoes... the kid from walkabout is in it, all growed up

all the mad maxes, haa haaa haa (but those dont need recommendation)

h8kurdt 03.05.2019 11:12 AM

Mate...I was taking the piss. Way to ruin it. Ruined it almost as bad as the Australians ruined the Aboriginies.

!@#$%! 03.05.2019 11:24 AM

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Mate...I was taking the piss. Way to ruin it. Ruined it almost as bad as the Australians ruined the Aboriginies.

 

Diesel 03.05.2019 01:19 PM

A friend of mine went to Australia once: said it was shit. The end. You can't ask anything more than that really.

choc e-Claire 03.05.2019 02:30 PM

Sometimes I realise that I live in a country that is a walking joke.

It's pretty good sometimes.

Antagon 03.05.2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
Sometimes I realise that I live in a country that is a walking joke.

It's pretty good sometimes.


Well, spring is just around the corner on the northern hemisphere. It's a time when the trolls come out of their hibernation und venture forward from the safety of their bridges. Something to do with trying to figure out whether they can see their own shadow I've been told. They rarely ever do.

Antagon 03.05.2019 02:59 PM

To whom it may concern: Happy Mardi Gras/Karneval

dirty bunny 03.05.2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I usually look up the album review on AllMusic and get the photo from there.

right click - open image in new tab - copy link - remove everything after the jpg - insert into SYG post





Thanks Claire;)

choc e-Claire 03.05.2019 05:04 PM

No worries Bunny

For some of the newer ones it may not work, in which case you can try with Google Images - similar procedure, but be patient for the photos to load.

h8kurdt 03.05.2019 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
No worries Bunny

For some of the newer ones it may not work, in which case you can try with Google Images - similar procedure, but be patient for the photos to load.


We don't all live in the third world, love

choc e-Claire 03.05.2019 06:20 PM

[insert requisite angry Australian GIF here]

!@#$%! 03.05.2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
Sometimes I realise that I live in a country that is a walking joke.

It's pretty good sometimes.

christ, you aussies and your culture cringe remind me of soupnazi and his south american “wannabe gringo” denial complex

you have fucking GOLD NUGGETS in your land

you have space, and a big blue sky, and a nature that makes prissy bitches faint

if you don’t want your cuntry, just leave-#i’ll take it over

oh yeah

 

dirty bunny 03.05.2019 11:49 PM

Australians are just upside-down Canadians.

pony 03.06.2019 05:53 PM

I waxed my moustache last night and I am feeling great WADDUP



lol.

dirty bunny 03.07.2019 03:51 AM

Currently trying to find a good porn parody movie online. Wish me luck!

!@#$%! 03.07.2019 06:36 AM

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Currently trying to find a good porn parody movie online. Wish me luck!

there was one made of harold and kumar go to guantanamo bay?

i forget the name of it

eta- not saying it is “good”. have only heard of it

dirty bunny 03.07.2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
there was one made of harold and kumar go to guantanamo bay?

i forget the name of it

eta- not saying it is “good”. have only heard of it





Really? Ha! Well after my brief foray into porn parodies I do have a couple complaints. One is that they're gay-avoidant. I want to see some guys banging! Two is that some of them only have a veneer of script. I enjoyed one because it stuck close to the original story, so I knew what was going to happen next, only it was going to be with banging. It made it fun. Others I watched it was basically just "throw some costumes on and bang". Boo hiss.

choc e-Claire 03.07.2019 06:27 PM

I saw a thing online the other day - it was some screenshots from a dialogue scene between two characters.

Paraphrasing a bit, but it went something like:
A: "What's your sport?"
B: "Chess."
A: "You know, baseball's pretty much just pure math."
B: "It is?
A: "Yeah, [etc]"
[more dialogue]

The gist was that it was surprisingly sensitive and heartfelt and interesting, and then the final comment from someone else was "I cannot believe that this is from a porno"

dirty bunny 03.07.2019 06:33 PM

^That's like some highbrow porn I dunno.



I like when they're just rolling with the goofiness of it and not taking it too seriously, the bad jokes the puns.

choc e-Claire 03.07.2019 06:36 PM

Admittedly I can't judge, not being too familiar with the ins and outs of porn myself.

Whatever lights your lamp* I guess.

*Replace with a euphemism of your choice, if you must.

dirty bunny 03.07.2019 07:49 PM

Probably for the best considering your age :)

choc e-Claire 03.07.2019 07:58 PM

Yeah - it doesn't really do anything for me anyway.

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One of the girls in my class has a boyfriend who's in the year above, but I refuse to believe that he's older than her - he looks about twelve sometimes.

choc e-Claire 03.07.2019 08:55 PM

I'm good friends with the exchange students - we hang in IT

Derek 03.07.2019 10:09 PM

Hi there choc e-Claire, I'm starting a Satanic cult dedicated to atsonicpark and was wondering if you would like to join? We're gonna meet up and bow down to the dark overlords, then afterwards enjoy a spot of robotripping with some Autechre blastin'.

choc e-Claire 03.07.2019 10:39 PM

Hey Derek,

That sounds fun, but I'm not worthy to bask in the reflected glory of atsonicpark. I'll leave you oldies to it.

:D

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Finished my Methods test early. My teacher basically told me 'I'm not meant to do this, but it's the end of the week, so...piss off home'.

But I'm a good girl and I'm staying in the library. Largely so my parents don't yell at me for arriving home half an hour early.

Derek 03.07.2019 10:56 PM

This sucks, I used to be the youngest person here! Now I'm just another idiot man behind a keyboard shouting into the void about my woes and opinions on media and pop culture that only serve to fill an ever hungry and empty hole inside of me and probably most people at this point.


Why would your parents shout at you? Would they really get mad at "my teacher let me leave half an hour early"? Do you go to an expensive private school and time is money to them or sumthin'?

choc e-Claire 03.08.2019 12:20 AM

It's not that they would yell at me, actually - they laughed a bit when I said that I'd waited at the library.

I've just spent eleven years being told 'during school hours, you need to be at school', so it's a bit of a mindfuck being told differently.


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