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louder 05.31.2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I think Birds in the Trap Sing McKnight is out. :confused:
I'm not positive, because Wikipedia and Google still refer to it as "upcoming," but last night I saw the 11 tracks on DatPiff.com and previewed them on my phone. Then I headed to my computer and downloaded it, but I had some trouble finding a link that worked.

I haven't listened to it yet, so I guess that's all I need to do to clear this up. But I'm not 100% sure it's not a fake at this point. We'll see. Pretty excited to hear it honestly. It seems like a cool project.

Nope, not out yet. Sorry fam. I'm looking forward to it as well.

Severian 05.31.2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Nope, not out yet. Sorry fam. I'm looking forward to it as well.


Then what the fuck am I listening to? Haha!

Severian 05.31.2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
^ Interesting.

A new Pusha single featuring Jay-Z titled "Drug Dealers Anonymous" is coming tonight. Here's the artwork:

 


Can't wait.


Oh, no shit! You're fucking kidding me man!

I was JUST listening to Darkest Before Dawn and sulking about the fact that the "King Push" album didn't come out in April as originally promised. Seriously, it was mere moments ago that I was cruising along, thinking, "Damn, it's the end of May... All of my hip-hop dreams for 2016 have come true, even the ones I didn't think ever would (Kanye), and didn't even bother to hope for (new Kendrick) — except for the ONE release I was totally counting on.

So this is very good news indeed. And With a guest spot from fucking Jay-Z?!
Damn.

louder 05.31.2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Then what the fuck am I listening to? Haha!

I don't know. :o Possibly a fanmade compilation of random loosies and throwaways.

louder 05.31.2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Oh, no shit! You're fucking kidding me man!

I was JUST listening to Darkest Before Dawn and sulking about the fact that the "King Push" album didn't come out in April as originally promised. Seriously, it was mere moments ago that I was cruising along, thinking, "Damn, it's the end of May... All of my hip-hop dreams for 2016 have come true, even the ones I didn't think ever would (Kanye), and didn't even bother to hope for (new Kendrick) — except for the ONE release I was totally counting on.

So this is very good news indeed. And With a guest spot from fucking Jay-Z?!
Damn.

I know you've been waiting for this one!

You know how much Pusha looks up to Hov, so finally getting a feature from Hov must be a big moment for him. Plus Hov on a song about coke is always guaranteed to deliver a great verse.

I think King Push is slated for release next month, by the way.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.31.2016 02:02 PM

Oh we're talking about rap again. Carry on

Severian 05.31.2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
I don't know. :o Possibly a fanmade compilation of random loosies and throwaways.


Well, whatever it is, it's not bad. I let's got "Uber Everywhere" and I dig that song. I kinda thought DatPiff was pretty reliable when it came to mixtapes. Reputable at least. They seem to release a lot of the higher profile releases, and I've never questioned the validity of the releases before. Hmm.

Oh well. So when's Birds in the Trap actually coming out?

Severian 05.31.2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
I know you've been waiting for this one!

You know how much Pusha looks up to Hov, so finally getting a feature from Hov must be a big moment for him. Plus Hov on a song about coke is always guaranteed to deliver a great verse.

I think King Push is slated for release next month, by the way.


Yeah, it should be excellent. Crossing my fingers over here. I want Jay to come with something fierce. It's been a minute.

pepper_green 05.31.2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Oh we're talking about rap again. Carry on


rap. hip hop. I've been gathering facts and yes, rap. hip hop again? tis is the café after all. lost interest a while ago. just not digging nothing feel me.

Severian 05.31.2016 08:52 PM

"Drug Dealers Anonymous" is a Tidal exclusive for the time being. I no longer subscribe to Tidal, so I've only heard snippets. Sounds promising, but I have to hear the Jay verse before I can make a ruling.

noisereductions 05.31.2016 08:59 PM

Did y'all see Anderson Peak on Fallon? He killed it.

louder 05.31.2016 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
"Drug Dealers Anonymous" is a Tidal exclusive for the time being. I no longer subscribe to Tidal, so I've only heard snippets. Sounds promising, but I have to hear the Jay verse before I can make a ruling.

Shit man. The beat and Pusha sound hard, wish I could hear the entire thing. Yet again, this Tidal bullshit sucks.. :(

EDIT: Stream it here https://soundcloud.com/nodrumzoffici...lers-anonymous

(Or here, in case the first link I posted goes down http://rapdose.com/2016/05/31/pusha-...us-feat-jay-z/)

louder 05.31.2016 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Did y'all see Anderson Peak on Fallon? He killed it.

Yes he did! The new version of Come Down with T.I is dope.

louder 05.31.2016 11:37 PM

Ok so this song is FIRE. Both Pusha and Hov killed it. Still need more listens to decide who had the better verse.

louder 05.31.2016 11:48 PM

DJ Dahi's production here is so next level.. sounds like some futuristic DJ Premier shit, damn.

louder 06.01.2016 12:39 AM

"Tried to build a cell around me
Snatched my nigga Emory up
Tried to get him to tell about me
He told 12, “Gimme 12”
He told them to go to hell about me
"

"Life made me ambidextrous
Countin’ with my right, whipping’ white with my left wrist
"

Yup, JAY Z is back.

guest 06.01.2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Flume's (super) long-awaited second album, Skin, just dropped on Friday, with guest appearances from Vince Staples and Vic Mensa (and Beck, just to name a few). I don't know if this means anything to you guys, but for me it's a big deal. I came into 2016 with two albums on the brain: whatever Ye was going to drop, and Skin.

Now that it's out, I feel like pretty much everything that I was looking forward to in terms of music has happened, and we're only halfway through the year. Skin is the kind of EDM album that keeps me listening to EDM. Like HudMo's Lantern, it brings out the absolute fucking best in big tent electronica. Without albums like these, I feel like I'd give up on mainstream techno completely, and dive into the amorphous sound collages of Autechre and the panicked footwork of Jlin and RP Boo full time.

Skin is already own of my favorite albums of the year, behind Kaytranada, but right up there with Pantha Du Prince's the Triad, and probably ahead of Elseq 1-5 just because of its immediate listenability. I really feel like electronic music is finally starting to blossom in 2016. Which is fucking awesome.

Go listen to Flume - Skin.
Louder, I think you in particular will find a lot to like about it.

dude not to be so picky but I think it's really archaic and frankly pretty reductive of electronic music that you'd lump someone like flume in with autechre. that's like going "hey, guns n roses and amm are in the same sphere because they're using fucking drums and guitars". it's a real rockist attitude to not want to pick up (and it is a matter of not wanting to or just laziness I don't know) on the disparities between electronic music when the chasms between all these different styles along so many different dimensions are perhaps even greater than those in 'rawk'.

Rob Instigator 06.01.2016 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
"Tried to build a cell around me
Snatched my nigga Emory up
Tried to get him to tell about me
He told 12, “Gimme 12”
He told them to go to hell about me
"

"Life made me ambidextrous
Countin’ with my right, whipping’ white with my left wrist
"

Yup, JAY Z is back.


Back with wack rhymes that don't rhyme and have no cleverness and no quality whatsoever.....

Severian 06.01.2016 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by guest
dude not to be so picky but I think it's really archaic and frankly pretty reductive of electronic music that you'd lump someone like flume in with autechre. that's like going "hey, guns n roses and amm are in the same sphere because they're using fucking drums and guitars". it's a real rockist attitude to not want to pick up (and it is a matter of not wanting to or just laziness I don't know) on the disparities between electronic music when the chasms between all these different styles along so many different dimensions are perhaps even greater than those in 'rawk'.


I get what you're saying. Flume and Autechre aren't anything alike.

But I didn't so much mean to lump them together as to point out that Flume is an example of good mainstream EDM, and that the new album is one of the reasons why I still listen to pop electronic music because it's actually really fucking good. The point I was trying to make was that without albums like Skin (and Lantern, and to a lesser extent 99%, because it's less EDM and more beat/hip-hop) I would give up on popist stuff, and only listen to stuff like Autechre.

But yeah, it's clear that the artists have about as much in common as Beck and Sonic Youth. Less, really. But I do like pretty much all varieties of electronic music, and I don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to the sub-and sub-sub-genres when talking casually, because it's just much easier to say "electronic music."

I know Flume isn't cool or whatever, but the album's good, makes my ears happy. I get where you're coming from though.

Severian 06.01.2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Back with wack rhymes that don't rhyme and have no cleverness and no quality whatsoever.....


Oh come on, that ambidextrous line is fucking awesome.

Granted, I haven't heard the track in full yet. Don't have time to now. But I kinda doubt you and I are going to agree about this one. You, who hate Jay, and I, who love him despite his many (many, many) missteps.

I just want that fire motherfucker who blew my mind with Reasonablr Doubt, Blueprint, Black Album, American Gangster and Blurprint III back (and who solidly impressed me, on occasion, on Vol.1 & 2, Kingdom Come, and MCHG).

I just want Jay-Z to make one more killer album. Not one with Beyoncé... She doesn't need him, and would only make him sound lame. Just another Muhammad Ali of hip-hop joint before he goes geriatric.


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