Your point being that gun owners are a few bad apples that need to be weeded out?

Mixed metaphor aside, that's too extreme for me.

I don't. Do you mean the second coming?

That's fucked up right there.

Also, people in cities and suburbs far removed from natural predators also own guns. Watcha think 'bout them?

No, my point being most people don't want to kill anyone. Which of course, isn't to say those that do opt for gun ownership want to kill someone, either.

I feel ya, Gail. We humans are anything but peaceful. I think some forget that we too are ANIMALS.

we could only be so lucky.....




look at all the pretty colors!

in a nutshell.

Did you even bother reading the rest of her post?

i know. now go away.

J/K. It's 2:am and I'm far too happy as well as exhausted to even attempt something clever, so I'll just steal from KIS and recycle yr own idea. I'm not even swaysted or nuthin'.

How are ya?

Thanks s I am saing it logically thinking. The spiritual overtone was meant for such friends. People can read into it what they choose. But bottom line we are not capable of total peace because we are just animals.

Sway is ok;)

What I think is iyour not the first or last to mock my beliefs.I also think that no should asume who needs a gun or not without fully understanding their environment. Cities are a fraction of america. There is more rural popullation than a lot of people know.

I bet a LOT of people in England own guns, just keep em hidden from the fucking police and the thought-crime cameras.

lol.
no, no they don't.

then don't you think dear different rules should apply like

why do you need a gun, and you should get a license if you do indeed need one? and it should be harder than getting a driver's permit?

if ur living in a city the only things you have to kill are cockroachers ffs

jfc it should be a bit hrder than being 16 nd getting a bottle of vodka

I wouldn't be mocking them if their practical result wasn't "Fuck advocating for peace, Jesus will do it for us when he comes back." Not very Christ-like in the tradition I was brought up in.

Over the two weeks that I lived in East LA about a month and a half ago, a boy was shot execution-style down the street. Care to fully understand that environment? What fraction of America was he?

yeah i think views on this are influenced by where you are, what you're surrounded by.

but you gotta think of other things.
you gotta think of mexico.

Well, all I know is this....gun's aren't hurting too many people around these parts.

the strange thing is you wanna base your opinion around your parts (lol)
when there are things/people telling you about other parts.

No need to constantly make fun of people...Every time you do, you are just further proving my point(s) on the natural/animalistic behaviors that do indeed exist in humans...like violence/etc.

Anyways, I live here...it's only natural TO BE CONCERNED w/ the area one lives in...but still, I support guns being everywhere, sans prisons. As prisons are put into place at least partially for folks that don't know how to respect guns + what they can do. Except for prison staff, of course....who obviously need them for their own SAFETY.

You talk to me one way, without realizing that you yrself are hardly doing much to try and think outside of yr own little world (or whatever it is you interpret that world to be).

I don't want to get ugly, but I can. So please, stop being bitchy. Yr opinion isn't the only one that matters...ok Gwen Beck?

In other words, I think people like you who have a knack for thinking that their way of thinking is the only sort that should matter...are largely responsible for what happened at Columbine.

Nothing wrong w/ a little peace/love/understanding...even if you don't agree w/ someone else. Making fun of people that have different opinions is not usually the best rt. to take when trying to prove a point.

First, I don't understand the assumption that only 'negative' behavior is natural/animalistic behavior. Secondly, ridiculing someone does not justify violence somewhere else. You're brushing with such very broad strokes to make this quasi-argument.

You oppose the possession of guns in prisons? Why do you hate freedom so much?

We're talking about someone that "lol's" at a way someone else speaks, which is common dialogue "around these parts".

It's stupid, it's negative, it's rude...not to mention completely hypocritical coming from someone that preaches people should travel and understand other parts of the globe.

Whatever though...let her keep on if giving people shit for the most trivial of reasons is her idea of a good time. Sad, really.

I'm done with this thread. Being mean over what should be an adult conversation is just something I refuse to allow myself to identify with.

Loved yr posts Rob, loved some of yrs Knox, and of course pb's are never too bad either.

<3

I'll take it with a grain of salt, which goes to prove that boulders of salt exist.

I was talking about the gun problem caused the US gun laws outside the borders but I guess you wouldn't have seen that or it wouldn't matter to you.

I guess you're not getting it, but my point is precisely that I agree that humans have violent instincts therefore it seems even mroe stupid to give them the power to maxizime their potential damage.

mmm, im not having a good time, i really could not be. but im sorry i had a little bit of a sense of humour and you ran out of things to say.


as for thr world peace preaching thing and whatnot, please note im not suchfriends.

Yeah I am outta here to. Thanks for posting your thoughts ann I can not put it anybetter and am trying to not get too aggitated this morning.<3

All else interesting as always;)

I am a peace. Supporter. But rreality is and I'm sorry it hurts it aint comin any time soon. Just take a look at the history of the human race if u need proof.

Oh and I did not give up on peace I strive for it with everyone meet. Its just very naïve to think that all will be peaceful. People like you keep the scale balanced otherwise it would be complete chaos. the word peace would not exist if not for the word war. Yin and yang

amen amen.

Jesus is an operative power of love in THIS present moment, as the present moment is always eternity, the past is your memories it only exists in your mind, the future is a projection of your imagination, it doesn't even exist yet, therefore Jesus doesn't exist at some random or even choreographed point in the future, the absolute and only place Jesus exists is the present moment, the now, so why wait for then when then is now?

so I take it you have loitered around my LA TIMES homicide project thread? those bodies pile up senselessly in Los Angeles night after night, if my heart wasn't already broken I swear it would have melted away like a dripping candle..

so it's that black & white.... there's "gun nuts" and then "peace lovers"? Way to stretch that 15 year old's intellect!

but thats like: fuck it. let them die. even if we can prevent some of it, let's not do whatever we can. kind of.

Were we talking about absolute peace? Then forgive me. I don't even think about peace in that sense, anymore. For me, its in small actions, dispositions, self-knowledge.

Look I agree with you both. Small actions in everyday life towards peace speak volumes. I am not trying to discourage efforts for a more peaceful existance that is exacty what god wants us to do in my belief. There is no society without individuals and everyones good intent helps. I have not lost hope in it or just depend on someone else to bring it for me I try my best to live it in my life. That's all that I can do ;)

well, I believe preventing deaths by limiting access to guns is pretty doable.

Limiting being the operative word. There's plenty of cultures - Sweden, Canada - where guns are very common; their use and distribution is part of a very different culture. As a for instance on greater prohibitions: this (as analogy) and this (in relation to the UK's gun laws). I wouldn't want to stop everyone owning guns. It's a liberty I think we can afford. I don't disagree with the basic point that a lot of people - maybe a majority - can be trusted with guns; the point is that a culture with astronomical gun-related fatality figures (such as America) simply cannot continue as it is. I'm sure suchfriends... (and Bradders?) have seen first-hand what happens in the nastier bits of LA. America accepts to its bosom hundreds of bits of legislation that inhibit their personal freedoms; adding guns to that list is by no means a huge ask.

but I'm also talking about the damage the american gun industry/lobby and its lack of proper regulation does to the rest of the continent.

Yes it is. Not everyone needs a gun. Most people dont, and those of us that do certainly dont need automatic weapons. I dont think we need these gun shows traveling around shelling em out like candy. Guns should have the highest restrictions of anything that we purchase, and the market definitly needs to be monitored better. I am sure that plenty of folks are not following the quidelines as they should.

way to trample on my olive branch! shit, I was addressing the two extremes and hoping the comprised I suggested could bridge the gap...
amen amen! pure brilliance! will you please run for governor here, our current options are shit. we need some of that insight you have posted there fi real!


yes, that is probably the worst evil of them all, but people have been deceived by gun lobbyists so we who are aware need to advocate, but that involved diplomacy and finesse, you have to move the people before you can have a movement, and that involves working with all and respecting all of their ideas, feelings and opinions, even if they are dangerously out of step with reality. small victories win the war in the long run..

yeah but every day until that small victory means deaths.

this morning i watched something on tv about many cases happened in the past months of accidents with guns, this morning a dad accidentaly killed his child while cleaning his gun.

despite the whole violence & crime, journalists are free to say "guns should be in the hands of the police only, and they will sadly be in the hands of criminals but in no way they should EVER be owned by regular citizens"

I mean, you can say that here without getting stoned to death, because it sounds like common sense.