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Skuj 08.08.2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Sadly, you and many others have been sucked in by the hype machine.

The same machine that dooped so many into believing Donal Trump didn’t have a chance in the last election.

Consumed by bitterness, willing to grasp at Muller’s straws of emptiness.

But you have your popcorn......at least you have that!!!



I know I shouldn't do this, I won't convince you to change your mind about things,......but......

You do know that there is a trial going presently, right? And I'm willing to bet that Mueller wins this trial.

Right?

!@#$%! 08.08.2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I know I shouldn't do this, I won't convince you to change your mind about things,......but......

You do know that there is a trial going presently, right? And I'm willing to bet that Mueller wins this trial.

Right?

devil’s advocate here, but... agent orange is not on trial (yet)

manafort is being tried for tax evasion and bank fraud

much is yet to unravel for sure

as a committed agnostic (lol) i can only say that we won’t know till we know (but her emails!)

patience...

Skuj 08.09.2018 01:52 AM

Agent Orange. :)

These people were involved in Campaign Trump. He sure knows how to pick 'em. The Best People.

But her emails.

ilduclo 08.09.2018 09:32 AM

Manifart trial " Tax expert Welch said he also looked at the income that was never brought into the United States. He said he was "conservative" in what he allowed as possible business expenses — including 132,000 euros to a yacht company, $49,000 for an Italian villa rental, $45,000 for cosmetic dentistry and $19,800 for a riding academy — because he heard "no testimony" explaining their purpose.

ilduclo 08.09.2018 09:46 AM

Trump Advisor Kudlow : ‘Wealthy People Have No Need To Steal Or Engage In Corruption’

!@#$%! 08.09.2018 09:57 AM

as i was saying just a couple of days ago, now corroborated by The Enemy, it’s all on congress:

Devin Nunes, in secretly recorded tape, tells donors GOP majority is necessary to protect Trump: ‘We’re the only ones’

“If Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones, which is really the danger,”


more:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...the-only-ones/

Bytor Peltor 08.10.2018 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I know I shouldn't do this, I won't convince you to change your mind about things,......but......

You do know that there is a trial going presently, right? And I'm willing to bet that Mueller wins this trial.

Right?


Trial?

What trial?

Before you can have a trial, there must be charges.

A Probable Cause Affidavit stating the facts based on the evidence.

Russian companies are lining up in United States Courtrooms demanding to see the evidence against them and Muller’s not producing anything.

Judges tend to get aggravated when you choose to clog up their dockets and you’re unable to proceed.

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Originally Posted by Skuj
And Team Trump will do everything they can to demonize/weaken Mueller


Actually, it will be the Democrats who end up doing this!

Skuj 08.10.2018 11:16 AM

Um.....Manafort. There are charges. Lots of them. The trial is happening now. Gates is co-operating.

Oh fuck it. Nevermind.

!@#$%! 08.10.2018 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Um.....Manafort. There are charges. Lots of them. The trial is happening now. Gates is co-operating.

Oh fuck it. Nevermind.

:D :D :D

Skuj 08.10.2018 12:14 PM

I wanted to ask what he meant by saying the Dems will end up demonizing / weakening Mueller, but what's the use?

Parts of this thread is like a car crash. It's horrible, but you just have to look anyway.

I didn't know Omarosa had a book until the WH started attacking her!! It must be good.

!@#$%! 08.10.2018 12:26 PM

lmao

make omarosa great again

good job, trumpet. good job.

national priorities #1

evollove 08.10.2018 12:55 PM

Unite the Right 2 this weekend in DC.

Because the first one was so good.

!@#$%! 08.10.2018 01:41 PM

national priorities, continued:

The NFL players are at it again – taking a knee when they should be standing proudly for the National Anthem. Numerous players, from different teams, wanted to show their “outrage” at something that most of them are unable to define. They make a fortune doing what they love……

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 10, 2018


…..Be happy, be cool! A football game, that fans are paying soooo much money to watch and enjoy, is no place to protest. Most of that money goes to the players anyway. Find another way to protest. Stand proudly for your National Anthem or be Suspended Without Pay!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 10, 2018


lmfao

the assclown

he’s gonna dock their pay?

lolololol

benito orange, chief of everything

!@#$%! 08.10.2018 01:54 PM

U.S. workers' paychecks are worth less than they were a year ago, the labor department reported Friday, as modest wage gains have failed to keep pace with inflation.

Inflation rose 2.9 percent from July 2017 to July 2018, the Labor Department said, while average hourly pay increased 2.7 percent over the same period.

The lack of real wage gains comes despite a strong economy, with sustained growth and an unemployment rate of 3.9 percent -- one of the lowest levels in decades.

The Labor Department tracks average hourly pay adjusted for inflation, which is known as the “real wage.” According to the federal government, the real average hourly wage was $10.78 in July 2017 and $10.76 in July 2018. Real wages have been on a sharp decline since the start of the year.

“Despite the strong labor market, wage growth has lagged economists' expectations,” wrote Pew Research in a report this week. “In fact, despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today’s real average wage has about the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago.”

[wapo]

h8kurdt 08.10.2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
I wanted to ask what he meant by saying the Dems will end up demonizing / weakening Mueller, but what's the use?

Parts of this thread is like a car crash. It's horrible, but you just have to look anyway.

I didn't know Omarosa had a book until the WH started attacking her!! It must be good.


I'll do it then

Quote:

Actually, it will be the Democrats who end up doing this!

What do you mean saying that?

The Soup Nazi 08.10.2018 05:43 PM

 

ilduclo 08.11.2018 06:02 PM

DL HUGHLEY:

"And then she (Ingrahag) got offended that David Duke was supporting her. Getting offended that David Duke supports her is is like Bill Cosby being offended that R. Kelley supported him. It's ridiculous.

You're saying the same shit, only you’re trying to keep hold of your one advertiser. I think the one advertiser she has sells Tiki torches and sheets with holes in them. But, it's ridiculous.

Skuj 08.11.2018 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Unite the Right 2 this weekend in DC.

Because the first one was so good.


All kinds of racism!! (Racism on both sides!!)

I have a really bad feeling about tomorrow.

Skuj 08.11.2018 08:55 PM

Trump said this!!!:

"One year ago in Charlottesville, we witnessed an ugly display of hatred, racism, bigotry & violence. While Americans are blessed to live in a nation that protects liberty, freedom of speech and diversity of opinion, there is no place for white supremacy, racism and neo-nazism in our great country. Rather than tearing each other down with hatred, racism & violence, we can lift one another up, strengthen our communities and strive to help every American achieve his or her full potential!"

(Ivanka, that is.)

!@#$%! 08.11.2018 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Trump said this!!!:

"One year ago in Charlottesville, we witnessed an ugly display of hatred, racism, bigotry & violence. While Americans are blessed to live in a nation that protects liberty, freedom of speech and diversity of opinion, there is no place for white supremacy, racism and neo-nazism in our great country. Rather than tearing each other down with hatred, racism & violence, we can lift one another up, strengthen our communities and strive to help every American achieve his or her full potential!"

(Ivanka, that is.)

i hope you dont mean “ivanka 2020”

tw2113 08.11.2018 09:14 PM

Is it bad that I want to claim to Trump that there are terrorists on the moon, to see if he'd consider blowing it up?

!@#$%! 08.11.2018 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Is it bad that I want to claim to Trump that there are terrorists on the moon, to see if he'd consider blowing it up?

with his coal-powered space force! :D :D :D

Skuj 08.12.2018 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i hope you dont mean “ivanka 2020”


No, I mean Ivanka tweeted that. Because her father seems to be absolutely incapable of making a strong statement against the White Supremacists. And we all know why, don't we?

I think it is extraordinary that both Melania and Ivanka seem to be publicly straying from Donald's very limited point of view at times. I don't love these people, but I sense they have some goodness in them that Donald does not (and will not ever) possess.

Skuj 08.12.2018 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Is it bad that I want to claim to Trump that there are terrorists on the moon, to see if he'd consider blowing it up?


Just tell him that the moon was Obama's idea.

tesla69 08.12.2018 06:20 AM

Anyone who doesn't believe that the sudden de-platforming of Alex Jones across over a dozen online services and platforms isn’t coordinated collusion is delusional.


The Resistance is totalitarian. Arm yourself and protect your family. When "Antifa" and their gang banger allies come for you, you'll only have one chance to get it right.

!@#$%! 08.12.2018 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
No, I mean Ivanka tweeted that. Because her father seems to be absolutely incapable of making a strong statement against the White Supremacists. And we all know why, don't we?

I think it is extraordinary that both Melania and Ivanka seem to be publicly straying from Donald's very limited point of view at times. I don't love these people, but I sense they have some goodness in them that Donald does not (:D and will not ever) possess.

ivanka 2020: at least some goodness! :D :D :D

nah, i get what youre saying, but these are still enablers and collaborators who on occassion attempt to appease their guilty consciousness with...

i don’t know really.

and they both still support the monster.

!@#$%! 08.12.2018 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
Anyone who doesn't believe that the sudden de-platforming of Alex Jones across over a dozen online services and platforms isn’t coordinated collusion is delusional.


S.O.R.O.S. I’s spaceship was sighted over the tranquility sea when suddenly the power went out in...


Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
The Resistance is totalitarian. Arm yourself and protect your family. When "Antifa" and their gang banger allies come for you, you'll only have one chance to get it right.


the only thing i have my family to protect against is you and your ilk and i only need free thought and free speech to neutralize you, “69”

geckinho 08.12.2018 10:03 AM

And why not? I think it's an interesting choice :)

Skuj 08.12.2018 03:27 PM

LOL, what is "69" up to? (I put him on ignore.)

Is it possible that he actually is a Russian Bot? (I'm serious.)

!@#$%! 08.12.2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
LOL, what is "69" up to? (I put him on ignore.)


just his usual mild paranoid schizophrenia, delirium of persecution, whatever

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj

Is it possible that he actually is a Russian Bot? (I'm serious.)

no no. he’s just a bit unhinged is all.

every metaphor is literal with him, basically

Bytor Peltor 08.13.2018 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
Anyone who doesn't believe that the sudden de-platforming of Alex Jones across over a dozen online services and platforms isn’t coordinated collusion is delusional.


The Resistance is totalitarian. Arm yourself and protect your family. When "Antifa" and their gang banger allies come for you, you'll only have one chance to get it right.



This is by far the most important post to this thread in the past couple of weeks and I’m afraid a few here are so caught up in their petty foolishness that they don’t realize it.

You see, this has nothing to do about you liking/ despising Alex Jones (I for one am not a fan of his continuous blathering and yelling), rather, about a mass effort to shut a voice down.

Believe it or not, Alex Jones is one of the ALL TIME GREATEST multi-level marketers in the history of multi-level marketing! The content of his radio show attracted listeners and the listeners supported Alex Jones by purchasing whatever product he was shelling.

Alex created his pyramid by placing station owners and station managers under him (in his down line). Any products sold to listeners calling a number attached to a specific station, that owner / manager go a cut of the pyramid profits. It got to where so much money was rolling in, Alex Jones was no longer having to pay for the Air Time.

It’s important to understand the difference between advertisers: beer companies, hotel chains and your local grocery store. These were not the types of companies supporting or buying airtime on stations when the Alex Jones Show was on. Instead, it was companies with product names you don’t see on store shelves, but products we’re familiar with: nale vitality, do it yourself home water filtration systems, six month supply of MRE’s for a family of four...these were the type of products advertising on the show.

Outside the Over-The-Air terrestrial radio waves, Alex Jones had multiple podcast (5) on iTunes, Spotify, a FB page and YouTube channel that the masses flocked to......and with a concerted effort, the current social media platforms took it all away in a single day.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND......a single platform didn’t shut Alex Jones down because of something he said and then after some backlash and bad press, the other platforms decided to flex their self righteousness.

NO NO NO......it was a concerted movement —COLLUSION— to shut Alex down and it’s simply WRONG!!!! Once you start with Alex Jones, it’s not that far from shutting down church service webstreams or preaches podcasts. News Papers are slowly dying and for some reason FREEDOM OF THE PRESS isn’t transitioning to social media platforms.

So why was Alex Jones shut down?

The elections are coming up and the left is desperate.

No worries......because of Alex Jones, someone is currently creating a new platform that the left will have no control over.

And for those of you who think I’m crazy......just look at the BILLIONS of dollars FB lost over the past couple of weeks due to people leaving FB in droves.

Another way to say it, the very group of people who would vilify you for refusing service to gays, people of color or religion are the same individuals applauding Alex Jones being shot down......the fact they don’t understand the difference is the DIVISION of America!!!

_tunic_ 08.13.2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
And for those of you who think I’m crazy......just look at the BILLIONS of dollars FB lost over the past couple of weeks due to people leaving FB in droves.



interesting theory. But I guess here you go too far: were people leaving FB because of the Alex Jones ban? Or had they already left anyway?

!@#$%! 08.13.2018 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
This is by far the most important post to this thread in the past couple of weeks and I’m afraid a few here are so caught up in their petty foolishness that they don’t realize it.

You see, this has nothing to do about you liking/ despising Alex Jones (I for one am not a fan of his continuous blathering and yelling), rather, about a mass effort to shut a voice down.

Believe it or not, Alex Jones is one of the ALL TIME GREATEST multi-level marketers in the history of multi-level marketing! The content of his radio show attracted listeners and the listeners supported Alex Jones by purchasing whatever product he was shelling.

Alex created his pyramid by placing station owners and station managers under him (in his down line). Any products sold to listeners calling a number attached to a specific station, that owner / manager go a cut of the pyramid profits. It got to where so much money was rolling in, Alex Jones was no longer having to pay for the Air Time.

It’s important to understand the difference between advertisers: beer companies, hotel chains and your local grocery store. These were not the types of companies supporting or buying airtime on stations when the Alex Jones Show was on. Instead, it was companies with product names you don’t see on store shelves, but products we’re familiar with: nale vitality, do it yourself home water filtration systems, six month supply of MRE’s for a family of four...these were the type of products advertising on the show.

Outside the Over-The-Air terrestrial radio waves, Alex Jones had multiple podcast (5) on iTunes, Spotify, a FB page and YouTube channel that the masses flocked to......and with a concerted effort, the current social media platforms took it all away in a single day.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND......a single platform didn’t shut Alex Jones down because of something he said and then after some backlash and bad press, the other platforms decided to flex their self righteousness.

NO NO NO......it was a concerted movement —COLLUSION— to shut Alex down and it’s simply WRONG!!!! Once you start with Alex Jones, it’s not that far from shutting down church service webstreams or preaches podcasts. News Papers are slowly dying and for some reason FREEDOM OF THE PRESS isn’t transitioning to social media platforms.

So why was Alex Jones shut down?

The elections are coming up and the left is desperate.

No worries......because of Alex Jones, someone is currently creating a new platform that the left will have no control over.

And for those of you who think I’m crazy......just look at the BILLIONS of dollars FB lost over the past couple of weeks due to people leaving FB in droves.

Another way to say it, the very group of people who would vilify you for refusing service to gays, people of color or religion are the same individuals applauding Alex Jones being shot down......the fact they don’t understand the difference is the DIVISION of America!!!


too long to respond point by point during a work break, but

1. mlm pyramids are barely legal ponzi schemes. i didnt know this about him, but good for him for mastering such scams i guess? still has nothing to do with the rest.

2. the division of america is brought about by the peddlers of misinformation. how many egregious lies does jones peddle day after day for profit regardless of consequence? sandy hooks was a conspiracy. hurricanes are man made. milions of undocumented illegals voted in the election. on and on and on, garbage to fill the minds of schizophrenics and fuel their delusions. pizza gate! he is basically a troll who profits off the uneducated and the infirm. a rich troll is still a troll.

2a. this bastard doxed and directed his mobs against the people who sued him for defamation for the sandy hook case. there’s a separate person being sued for theatening their lives. they had to go into hiding. here’s their letter to zuckerberg from back in july: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ts-open-letter

3. facebook has been dealing for a while with misinformation on its website. youtube banned his child endangerment videos. the banhammer on his troll act fell as a logical consequence. others followed suit.

4. these are private entities not government. troll banning is not censorship.

5. this past june the supreme court sided with the baker who didnt want to make the gay wedding cake, if you didnt read the actual news

Bytor Peltor 08.13.2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
interesting theory. But I guess here you go too far: were people leaving FB because of the Alex Jones ban? Or had they already left anyway?


People were leaving FB before Alex Jones got shut down.

It’s my understanding lots of people watched via the FB platform, I didn’t realize that was even a thing......but FB removing the Alex Jones Show will probably cause others to vacate.

People are leaving FB due to the algorithm changes, not being able to see post of people you follow and tons of other reasons.

Bytor Peltor 08.13.2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
5. this past june the supreme court sided with the baker who didnt want to make the gay wedding cake, if you didnt read the actual news


Of course I know, it was a wonderful ruling and has nothing to do with anything I said above. However, those who are in favor of aborting children while protecting spotted owls are excited.

!@#$%! 08.13.2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Of course I know, it was a wonderful ruling and has nothing to do with anything I said above. However, those who are in favor of aborting children while protecting spotted owls are excited.

has nothing to do with what you said above?

you said this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Another way to say it, the very group of people who would vilify you for refusing service to gays, people of color or religion are the same individuals applauding Alex Jones being shot down......the fact they don’t understand the difference is the DIVISION of America!!!


which yes it’s related to the supreme court case.

the baker could not express messages that violated his deeply held beliefs, right?

now facebook has to give a platform to a hatemonger who directs mobs against people?

i dont get where you stand on the issues i guess. or what you mean by “collusion.”

Rob Instigator 08.13.2018 01:35 PM

the human female will "abort" 20-30% of its pregnancies, because god don;t give a fuck. god will also alllow a baby to destroy its mother's insides, causing her and the baby to both die. god likes DEATH. god created death and evil and abortion. god should not have put the idea for abortion in people's heads.






the whole idea of god is so fucking stupid.

!@#$%! 08.13.2018 02:09 PM

Wed 25 July 2018

Dear Mr Zuckerberg,

Our names are Lenny Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa. We are the parents of Noah, who on 14 December, 2012, at the age of six, was gunned down in his classroom at Sandy Hook elementary school. Since that day, we, as well as the parents, family, and friends of the 25 other victims, have been embroiled in a constant battle with social media providers, including Facebook, to protect us from harassment and threats.

!@#$%! 08.13.2018 02:11 PM

Almost immediately after the massacre of 20 little children, all under the age of seven, and six elementary school teachers and staff, the attacks on us began. Conspiracy groups and anti-government provocateurs began making claims on Facebook that the massacre was a hoax, that the murdered were so-called “crisis actors” and that their audience should rise up to “find out the truth” about our families. These claims and calls to action spread across Facebook like wildfire and, despite our pleas, were protected by Facebook.

!@#$%! 08.13.2018 02:13 PM

While terms you use, like “fake news” or “fringe conspiracy groups”, sound relatively innocuous, let me provide you with some insight into the effects of allowing your platform to continue to be used as an instrument to disseminate hate. We have endured online, telephone, and in-person harassment, abuse, and death threats. In fact, one of the abusers was sentenced to jail for credible death threats that she admitted in court she had uttered because she believed in online content created by these “fringe groups”. In order to protect ourselves and our surviving children, we have had to relocate numerous times. These groups use social media, including Facebook, to “hunt” us, posting our home address and videos of our house online. We are currently living in hiding. We are far from alone in our experiences, as many other families who have lost loved ones in mass shootings and other tragedies have reported the same continuing torment.


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