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Genteel Death 10.26.2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
I'm sad you think my brain is a dripping turd.

Meanwhile...

Who does this singer sound like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCt5RM2_93c

Shitty song. But that's not why I brought it up.

She does that sickeningly fake white-girl Billy Holiday thing that a good 85% of soulful indie female singers do nowadays. Know what I'm talking about?

So, who does this singer sound like? Close your eyes and tell me who you could mistake her for. I want to make a list of idiots with this affectation.

C'mon man, she's such an easy target.

Genteel Death 10.26.2015 04:49 PM

I'm interested in your dude naked vocals of this.

Genteel Death 10.26.2015 04:51 PM

Severian's input always appreciated too. So pure.

evollove 10.26.2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
C'mon man, she's such an easy target.


I'm not picking on her. I feel sort of bad for her. I'm talking about her style, which she picked up from somewhere else.

Regina Spektor, that Feist chick, Sharon Van Etten, even Kate Nash with the accent: they all sound very similar.

To my ears, they're struggling to channel Billie Holiday. I never told anyone they had my permission to try this.

Genteel Death 10.26.2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
I'm not picking on her. I feel sort of bad for her. I'm talking about her style, which she picked up from somewhere else.

Regina Spektor, that Feist chick, Sharon Van Etten, even Kate Nash with the accent: they all sound very similar.

To my ears, they're struggling to channel Billie Holiday. I never told anyone they had my permission to try this.


I don't really know most of those chicks apart from Regina Spektor, whose music I know very little about. I'm sure you're right and you get a lot of dudes trying to sound like the Pavement singer too. It's just as bad. Also, how much can you do with a voice, really?

evollove 10.26.2015 06:16 PM

Or all those singers who try to be the Alice in Chains guy or Eddie Vedder? God, how many hundreds. Maybe that trend is over now.

It's really weird how vocal trends occur at all.

In the pop world, for the past decade many people have decided to sing "may" for "me," as in: "Look what you're doin' to may." I hear that all the time. Who decides this stuff?

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
how much can you do with a voice, really?


I dunno. Seems to me the people who sing from their own gut manage something uniquely their own.

But I can see how the lowly ones might have a problem, and might latch onto whatever's hip in the air.

Genteel Death 10.26.2015 06:33 PM

I don't care about the pop world.

Bytor Peltor 10.27.2015 10:59 AM

 

Severian 10.27.2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
 


Good idea. I'm gonna do the same.

The Soup Nazi 10.27.2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by evollove
I'm not picking on her. I feel sort of bad for her. I'm talking about her style, which she picked up from somewhere else.

Regina Spektor, that Feist chick, Sharon Van Etten, even Kate Nash with the accent: they all sound very similar.

To my ears, they're struggling to channel Billie Holiday. I never told anyone they had my permission to try this.


WHOA, leave SVE out of that bunch! As for the rest (and about five million more), yes, they sound lamely Holiday-ish but their root is more Chan Marshall than Billie.

Genteel Death 10.27.2015 05:09 PM

Is that Cat Power chick really that influential on girls singing these days? She's alright by me, it's just that she only seems to sing about disappointment, lost opportunities in love and that sort of shit. Nothing wrong with that, it just get a bit tedious after a while.

Genteel Death 10.27.2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Good idea. I'm gonna do the same.

What record is that? You guys!

Genteel Death 10.27.2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
it's Thee Oh Sees - Drop

Thanks.

The Soup Nazi 10.27.2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
I think she got all self-empowered and Mary J Blige recently.


She actually covered Mary J Blige's "Deep Inside" on a John Peel session (not quite "recently", evidently).

Genteel Death 10.27.2015 06:34 PM

Ween suck.

Severian 10.27.2015 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
my fav is Floating Coffin by them.


Floating Coffin is a high point for sure. Also my favorite, though this year's Mutilator Defeated at Last has been in pretty constant rotation since its release.

I'm also big into the old OC'S material, like the 3+4(Songs About Death & Dying/Get Stoved) and 2 collections.

Severian 10.27.2015 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Ween suck.


Let's argue!

Genteel Death 10.28.2015 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Let's argue!


 

evollove 10.28.2015 08:24 AM

By sheer coincidence...

Browsing around youtube. Come across a cover of "David Watts" featuring a harp and sitar. Sounds promising.

Then the female singer comes in. Hey, what do you know? THAT voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44zix8j-8UE

Bertrand 10.28.2015 01:47 PM

Thee Oh Sees are so great...
Web on their latest has been my favorite (sort of) song since I first heard it played live last year.
I find it hard to listen to the whole album after that, as it opens Mutilator...
You'll hear people saying how good they are and wonder whether these guys are sane after listening to an album picked randomly. Their live performances are so thrilling, the songs are way better on stage (I discovered the studio version of Dead Energy after a couple of live shows and could not recognise it).
I find Carrion Crawler/The Dream, Floatin Coffin to be among the solid albums, along with Putrifiers II.

Bytor Peltor 10.29.2015 10:02 AM

Just yesterday I found a sealed copy of this CD stacked with several CD's in my closet. Think I paid $1.99 for this when our Death Star size HEB closed out thier music department a few years back.

I had this on cassette from my high school days and remember their being some gnarly keyboard sounds......your description has peeked my curiosity!

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die! "Air Dance" is nice with one of the best Sabbath intros along with "Cornucopia". as a whole its not bad.


Pookie 10.30.2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Ween suck.

Ween suck.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.31.2015 02:07 PM

SUBHUMANS Los Angeles, CA. 10-29-2015 - YouTube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AElTWhghLd4

Find me catching fame in this vid around 6:50-740.. im next to my homie who is wearing a blue LA cap and we're facing the camera clearly having more fun than i am able to remember

Mortte Jousimo 10.31.2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
Alice Cooper - Killer
maybe some Misfits and telepathic tilapia later before going trick or treating.

Killer is just great! As also Love It To Death, School“s Out, Billion Dollar Babies & Welcome to my nightmare. Really love also those experimental two first albums they made to Zappa straight-label! And Misfits of Danzig era rules!

Mortte Jousimo 11.01.2015 06:07 AM

Just listened BS Sabotage, it“s quite a while I“ve listened it before today. Sounded so awesome! BTW they have copied the end of the Writ straight from Alice Cooper`s Only Women Bleed.

Mortte Jousimo 11.01.2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
Sabotage is some frightening heavy shit, musically and lyrically. hell, I even like "going insane(radio)". Sabbath Bloody Sabbath just doesn't hold up sound wise and some songs just peter out. the songs sound great live from that period but I find it torture to sit through so i skip to "Killing Yrself to Live" then cut the thing off.

I have never fully get into Thrill Of It All & the Writ. They“re ok, but nothing more, I think they“re just recycling old ideas. But the rest of the album is just dynamite, also always loved Insane. I think Bloody Sabbath is better entity, but on the other hand, hard to say which is better, because Symptom, Megalomania, Supertzar etc. are just so great songs.

Now listening Magma“s first album, it“s almost same experience as Trout Mask was to me when I get into it fully first time!

The Soup Nazi 11.01.2015 02:00 PM

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.01.2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
Sabotage is some frightening heavy shit, musically and lyrically. hell, I even like "going insane(radio)". Sabbath Bloody Sabbath just doesn't hold up sound wise and some songs just peter out. the songs sound great live from that period but I find it torture to sit through so i skip to "Killing Yrself to Live" then cut the thing off.

Sabotage is my fav Sabbath album, its sounds like Sabbath doing a Zeppelin record only better

Severian 11.01.2015 09:23 PM

The last time we talked about Sabbath I couldn't get MOR, Vol. 4 or Paranoid out of my head for fucking weeks. I woke up and went to sleep with songs from those albums just pulsing through my brain. So I'm gonna sit this one out, though Sabotage is definitely awesome.

I've been listening to oldish Swans, the new album by Milo, Erase Erratta's Lost Weekend (which is a great 2015 albums than was kinda overshadowed by No Cities to Love, and shouldn't be forgotten).

Also Actress (aka Levantis) - Romantic Psychology 1 and an album I slept on for far too long: Your Discretion is Trust by Cities Aviv. Damn that's a good album. SpaceGhostPurrp better step his game up.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2015 03:11 AM

And wait, how is Sabotage heavy but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath NOT?

Mortte Jousimo 11.02.2015 07:45 AM

Again I think Sabbath has never done any Zep, they just done Sabbath! And Sabbath is unique, Zep not.

Severian 11.02.2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
And wait, how is Sabotage heavy but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath NOT?


It's not- I mean, yeah Sabotage is heavy, but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is totally effing heavy too, and that's a fact. Personally I prefer SBS, but I seem to be in the minority on that one.

Severian 11.02.2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
yea, nothing they ever did sounded like Zeppelin. there's ideas they took but expanded on.


the first six Sabbath albums go like this for me:

Vol.4 the best,(the other four in the middle),SBS the worst. what they wanted to achieve on SBS they perfected on Sabotage. "The Writ" is a masterpiece.


I agree about Vol.4. The best. After that, Master of Reality, Paranoid, SBS, Sabotage, s/t.

I do think they "did" Zeppelin, not in a derivative way. What I mean is that some of their songs seemed to come from a more wholistic Rock n' Roll perspective, one that relied on folk and blues and interplay between instruments, resulting in more of a "rock and roll" sound than a "metal" sound.

I'm talking about songs like "Wicked World", which feels more like Cream or Zep, with a more traditional kind of vibe. Or, as I mentioned in the last BS free for all, the second part of the verse in "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" which has a very Led Zeppelin IV feel to it, even though the song starts out by busting down the door with, total medieval witchcraft and shit. But the pummel breaks and things get pretty, and the resulting sound is easy to describe as being "Zeppelin-like"

but better.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
It's not- I mean, yeah Sabotage is heavy, but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is totally effing heavy too, and that's a fact. Personally I prefer SBS, but I seem to be in the minority on that one.

While Sabotage is quite literally my all time fav sabbath album sabbath bloody sabbath fights for a slot in my top 3 with Vol4 depending on my mood. Its a kick ass record

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Again I think Sabbath has never done any Zep, they just done Sabbath! And Sabbath is unique, Zep not.

Agreed totally accept for when we're talking about Sabotage which sounds very much like a Sep record only improved and better.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2015 06:50 PM

Interestingly i first fell in love with Sabotage during a psychedelic experience so that is probably apt

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.02.2015 11:19 PM

Haha did you notice me? I was going insane at "am i going insane" levels! I just downloaded those vids today was watching them again man i love Subhumans live like no other stage show!

Mortte Jousimo 11.03.2015 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
yea, nothing they ever did sounded like Zeppelin. there's ideas they took but expanded on.
.

Well, I don“t hear anything similar in LZ first album & BS first album (well maybe only something BS in Dazed & Confused, but Page had already taken that song from Jake Holmes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1g7qFaWaLk ). Also not their later albums. It“s of course possible BS listened LZ albums and LZ BS albums.

Bytor Peltor 11.03.2015 10:20 AM

Head Of Wantastiquet from Stu's tapeworm blog......about 20 minutes in, a keyboard sound slowly starts pulsating and builds to an accompanying guitar that sounds so amazing......another GREAT recording by Stu!

Mortte Jousimo 11.03.2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper_green
ha, btw...

how awesome is this goddamn shit?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejjRB-WIKTA

Ha Ha, this is so horrible it turns good! (I really wonder does Alice remembers anything of this song or videomaking)


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