Oh to be sure quite literally raiders have been the WORST team of past 12 years.. that even including all the shit losses and they STILL a top5 franchise along with steelers packers 49ers cowboys is amazing. Though with this 4th Superbowl Pats are closing in on that 5spot yo for real! The only reason Pats aren't a solid top5 all time team is well, they really sucked bad from 60s-90s

sucked is a nice way of putting it.

I dread watching Andre Johnson catching balls from Indianapolis QB Andrew Luck. Jesus fuck that is going to be ugly to see twice a year as a Texans fan, especially after we saddled Dre with shit QB's for all his 12 years here.

the ownership of the Texans do not want to win. They want to be "contenders" only, meaning they will spend just enough to make a shit ton of money and sell out the stadium but will never go for the brass ring and try to do what it takes to win a championship. That has always been my feeling.

Oil man McNair did not buy the Texan franchise because he loves football and wants to be a champion. He is a super rich oil billionaire. what he loves is making money, and the Texans make Top 5 money as far as NFL teams go.

fuck. what shit. I wish he was a baller like the Rooneys, the Krafts, etc.

Don't feel bad, i got to watch Boldin AND torrey smith catch passes from Colin Crapernick on fortywhinerz jersies and i dearly love BOTH those former Raven greats. Nobody wins contested catches better than Boldin and nobody spreads the field better than Smith.. now? Fucking cheap ass ravens quietly in rebuild mode

rob, how do you feel about mallett and hoyer?

Mallett is a 27 year old who has started 2 games, and only one of them did he play well, and it was against the Clevelanc "Doo Doo" Browns, who SUCK SHIT.

so now we have the Brown's ex-QB? shit. Both are suck ass fucks, lame fucking no-touch having assholes, who "look" the part of a QB. Fuck them both. Between David Carr, Matt Schaub, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Case Keenum, Ryan Mallett, and now Hoyer, it is a fucking wonder that Andre Johnson stayed with us as long as he did.

They fucking SUCK.

One thing I want to point out about Mallett......he left a sizable amount of $$$ on the table that was offered by other teams, to stay in Houston so he could play for Bill O'Brien. Like Flaco did a few years ago, Mallett is betting on himself for a much larger contract in the future, the kind franchise QB's receive. In no way am I agreeing that Mallett is a franchise QB, but I do admire his approach and I for one will be pulling for him. Also, Mallett and Hoyer's contracts are so small they can be waved, cut or traded without any sizable hit against the salary cap.

Flacco definitely won his bet by being patient. And all those folks who clamor bout his contract are hating, he makes less than jay "i fucking suck and look like i drink beer at kickoff and whiskey at the half" cutler! To be sure it ain't flacco that cost us ngata or torrey its all that ray rice dead money...

Sadly all things considering i dare say houston and Baltimore aren't that far from each other, and not to diss texans but clearly its a decline for ravens who were one play away from the AFC Game last season before we lost several coaches, our best WR, our best DT, and our best TE.. shit who is next? Tucker the best kicker in NFL??

I pull for all my Texans players, but name one Tom Brady back up who was worth anything? They all suck.

Now, Brett favre had several amazing backups that became big stars!

Like I said, the Texans ownership does not give a fuck about winning, but about being "competitive" and making mad cash.

"I felt like this was the best place where I can win a championship and help win a championship," Johnson said. "That's what it's all about. That's why we play the game."

Andre Johnson knows the Texans are fakers.

Other than rewinding to this time last year and drafting Teddy Bridgewater or Blake Bortles, what would you like to have seen the Texans do at QB this season?

About Johnson's new contract: 3 years / $21 Million makes for a nice headline, but his base in 2015 will be $3.5 Million......Colts and easily get out from under when they want.

Texans need a real QB simple as that.. look at what flacco did for Ravens. We were top ten d every year but too inconsistent at QB to be a threat.. Joe Cools comes in and Baltimore makes the AFC game his rookie year and then two more times including a Superbowl win and were a few bad plays away from the Afc game season. A franchise QB turns a decent team into a perennial contenders

Bridgewater and Bortles both suck shit too.

The Texans of 2010 needed an older, experienced QB (P. Rivers, for example) and they would have been so money.

The Texans of 2015? I would have liked them to make an effort to draft someone to develop properly, but Mallett is 27, his problems are beyond fixing. Hoyer is too small. It seems that the best QB's out there need to be gotten right out of college. I don't know what the Texans could have done, but I know they have passed up people who would make the team so much better.

My hope now is that we pay Vince Wilfork and get him to be our nose tackle and him, Watt, and HOPEFULLY Clowney can scare the living shit out of the AFC SOUTH QB's.

I saw Flacco in college and always thought "There is a guy who will make a GREAT NFL QB. Huge arm, had touch, stood in the pocket like a veteran..."

People tend to choose QB's based on looks, personality, and whether he is a "good guy" (NFL QB's are like the lapdogs of billionaire owners, and they use them as such, inviting them to play golf or to attend big fundraisers, essentially using them as a prop) This is stupid. a QB should be chosen purely on toughness, throwing skills, and decision making.

The best QB's right now are all of these

Tom Brady
Joe Flacco
Ben Rothlisberger
Phillip Rivers
Drew Brees
Andrew Luck


the 80's and 90's Oilers had Warren fucking Moon, who could throw every single pass on a rope, had excellent touch, had a perfect spiral, and took all the hits he had to. That team failed to put the pieces around him. The current Texans have to learn from those mistakes if they ever get a true franchise QB

Fitzpatrick wasn't terrible but got fluke injured. No, he wasn't a franchise QB but if he stayed healthy y'all would've made the playoffs. You're right though, time to learn lessons from past errors.. a great QB can keep a team successful even with huge roster turnover.. again flacco is a great example, he has had FIVE offensive coordinators and aside from torrey who just left a new receiving corp every single season yet again has took the team to 3 AFC games and notched big road wins against nemesis rivals like shitsburg and cheatriots..

Rob, who in draft or future free agency would you have in mind?

There is no one. NFL football is a different beast than college bullshit. because of this there are no more college players who are developed enough to play in the pros. They are treated like dumbfucks , never call their own plays, are not asked to make decisions, yet when they throw for thousands of yards everyone praises them as some sort of god. The list of college QB's of the last 20 years that broke records, won Heisman trophies, and SUCKED SHIT in the pros (where everyone is an All-American and can destroy 99% of University level players) is so long.

So long

from my alma mater, University of Houston alone, you had Andrew Ware (Heisman), David Klingler, Kevin Kolb, Case Keenum, etc. all of them suck in the pro game.


I do not know how to fix this. In pro football, the QB position is the one position where you cannot really just plug in talent and expect it to succeed. A QB has to be taught the NFL game, coached properly, etc.

It also takes a certain kind of cockiness (think Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, hell, even Doug Fucking Flutie) to lead a bunch of hulking monsters into battle. That is why Russel Wilson and Andrew Luck have had such success.

Warren Moon was leading teams to the playoffs in his early FORTIES for Marduk's sake!

Right now I would take a hobbled Payton Manning!

BTW, I say an NFL rewind of the Colts-Texans game week 6 last year, and in it my man Andre Johnson made several motherfucking level-11 difficulty catches. If only we had fought harder to grab Peyton Manning when he was available

Here is the top 5-6 QB's drafted in last ten years. I bolded the ones that have actually had postseason success (I may have forgotten a few)

2014
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garappolo

2013
EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Mike Glennon
Matt Barkley
Ryan Nassib

2012
Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweller
Russell Wilson (6th QB taken in draft)

2011
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton
Colin Kaepernick (6th QB taken)

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Mike Kafka

2009
Matthew Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Stephen McGee

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Bohm
Chad Henne
Kevin O'Connel

2007
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb
John Beck
Drew Stanton

2006
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler
Kellen Clemens
Tarvaris Jackson

2005
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell
Charlie Frye
Andrew Walter

2004
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
J.P. Losman
Matt Schaub

Look at that list!!!!!! That does not include the 5-9 other QB's taken in each of those drafts. Fucking terrible. 2004 was the cream of the crop.

2007 lol

murray to the eagles is fucking sick.

I agree college QBs rarely survive NFL interestingly i had this same chat with my homie and realized more first round picks have been successful than i realized. We counted about 2 and 3 chance of there being at least one franchise QB in the first round every year. Now considering we're talking about 1 great pick out of ten possible top10 picks well the odds literally drop to 10% BUT when thinking about the value of top10 picks in general its worth the try if your GM does his scouting HW..

My beef with NCAA is the guys get cocky with undeserved fanfare and beat up on shit competition in college meanwhile as rob mentioned EVERY player in NFL is obviously top tier compared to the parity of NCAA level "competition".. what is worse is even very talented QBs with true potential suffer from having their hands held through college. The refs give them way too many PI calls, the coaches call way to many of their plays, and the clock stops too much especially in crunch time. Clock management is probably NFL rookies worst skill, especially the two minute drill. The NCAA simply stops the clock to much to prepare college players for NFL.

I propose that NFL create a minor league like MLB and NBA instead of relying on NCAA for draft picks, it would give players more time to develop at an actual NFL level. Think of how many rookies don't make it to 2nd season?a minpr league would prevent so much player turn around and also help minimize ALL THE CORRUPTION IN NCAA

the worst thing lately is that NFL Offenses have to, HAVE TO, be able to put the QB under center. Shotgun in college is now ubiquitous, but that shit does not fly in the NFL. the Defenses are so fast and strong.

That Mariotta guy took like 95% of his college snaps in shotgun formation. That shit don't fly in the NFL.

Remember Stave McNair? I wish the Texans would find someone like him. That dude was tough as fucking nails and never ever ever backed down from shit.

Finally something for em to be happy about with the Texans! We are signing Vince Wilfork! He will be our beast of a Nose Tackle and this should make JaDaveon Clowney and JJ Watt's jobs that much easier!

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ns/#31139101=0

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...ick-and-brady/

vince still has a ton left in the tank. treat him well down there.

Texans just need JaDaveon healthy and on the field. Wilfork will be huge in mentoring Clowney......solid move!

Wait, y'all getting excited bout fat ass vince wilfork?? Texans playing football or entering a hot dog eating contest yo??

he is become wilfork, destroyer of turkey legs and worlds

Ill never forget when big Vince couldnt watch and looked away as billy cundiff missed the kick in 2012 AFC Game.. we got our payback the next year

i was watching in the dining hall at FIU when i went there... and looked away. i couldn't. watched the next year at a bar alone and walked home piss drunk. fun times.

pats signed scott chandler, who's what, 6'6 or something. maybe we'll go back to the boston te party kinda sets.

Vince Wilfork has caused two amazing butt fumbles.

Most TDs on deep passes (20+ air yards) in 2014:

Romo 14
Luck 12
Rodgers 11
Flacco 11
Rivers 10

Surprised only five reached double digits......very telling!

cornerbacks and safeties are faster than ever.

Oh Schaub http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/o...r=112638779551

Flacco would have led the league like usual but torrey smith had fucking butter fingers this year, SIX dropped 20yard plus passes alone! He made up for it in leading NFL in PI calls which he has for 3 consecutive seasons fucking shit are we gonna miss that!

Vince Wilfork isn't the player he was, but he played all 19 games this past season. If Vince can tie up two blockers and play the run, he will be a BIG improvement over what the Texans had last year.

I was a little surprised to learn that Cecil Shorts led the Jaguars in number of receptions, receiving yards and TD's over the past three seasons. That said, he is still a second tier receiver who allows Texans options at the draft.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=12544551

No national outrage or calls for crucifixion like people did to Ray Rice and Mike Vick..

Man, FUCK PEOPLE and their sensationalism inspired lynch mobs meanwhile actual NFL villains like Sanders, Adrian Hernandez or even Adrian Peterson (dude beat kids man, his OWN fucking kids??? At least ray rice hit a grown woman who admittedly was fighting with him all night)

These kinds of things are why every few years i totally give up on sports and hide in my cocoon... i think its about that time again

Not 100% sure what you're referring to???

Rick, Vick and Peterson were all active players while Sharper was retired......out of sight, out of most peoples minds......nine years is one heck of a deal for having nine sets of chargers over four States.

So? Its still people randomly picking and choosing their outrage. Guy admits to drugging and raping SEVERAL women across SEVERAL years across SEVERAL states surely warrants some national media coverage and twitter lynching especially considering he won a Superbowl just 6 years ago and is a national TV guest analyst...

Again, people's priorities are whack

Truly don't have an answer for you other than, "out of sight out of mind." Rice and Peterson had video/pictures and happened during season......this is the biggest difference I can think of.

Sports Talk Radio has mentioned how disgusting Sharper's actions were, just not sure if it's worthy enough for the like of Good Morning America to discuss???

Since you probably haven't heard, please take a moment and listen to Dale Hansen rip the Dallas Cowboys a new one for signing, Gregg Hardy......is this the sort of "rage" you were referring to?

Why is it less game than Ray Rice?? I get that the guy is retired but he is still involved in sports and his retirement is very recent.The guy drugged and raped several women..


Do you remember the scale of Ray Rice outrage? People wanted him to get like life imprisonment, people made him out to be the most despicable human being in the world, and more despicably people acted like they had never looked the other way about domestic violence in their own lives when the numbers suggest otherwise. In other words it was all self-righteous indignation..