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Severian 05.25.2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
I don't know what Jlin is.


You should, like, type "Jlin" into Google of Spotify ;)

She's basically the best thing to happen to footwork since Dj Radhad. Partially because she rather coyly subverts the genre, while also pretty much embodying it. One of the few records of the year that's I feel is truly worthy of being called "great."

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I guess I'd probably agree w/ 2010's being their worst decade. Though I did like the Heady Fwends album. And I know you hated the SGT Pepper, but I did really like it a lot. I actually pulled The Terror out last night with the intention of giving it another spin soon. I haven't even listened to it since it first came out. Wasn't a fan then. But I figured that I've warmed up to Oczy so maybe I should try again.

I like Heady Fwends too. When it came out (actually, before it properly came out -- back when it was just a smattering of mini-EPs released on fetuses and stuff) I was jamming those songs like crazy. The "album" that eventually compiled the best of those releases was a smart move for them. And a strong and cohesive record.

I liked The Terror too, but it was pretty goddamn sad. It was aiming my favorite albums of 2013, probably pretty high on the list at the time, but I think in retrospect I prefer the albums by Fuck Buttons and Botany (as well as Yeezus and Dj Koze's Amygdala) to it. I haven't listened to it since late 2013.

I think there's some underrated awesomeness going on in the Lips' production on these past few releases, but there isn't quite enough solid song craft to hold my attention.

noisereductions 05.25.2017 10:48 PM

I think they are just pumping out too much stuff to dig thru honestly.

louder 05.26.2017 02:43 AM

Been on a 90's alt rock kick lately.. just like the rest of y'all, it seems. :p

noisereductions 05.26.2017 07:03 AM

ha. Yeah. I don't know. I mean I've always loved that stuff, but it's just what I've really been in the mood for. Actually I'd say that it's what I've listened to almost primarily since last summer. Hmm.

Severian 05.26.2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
Been on a 90's alt rock kick lately.. just like the rest of y'all, it seems. :p


I have not been on a '90s alt rock kick at all. Not in any way, shape or form. I'm just replying to you. And it's *very* obvious that you've been on a '90s alt rock kick lately. :)

In all honesty, I've been so goddamn boring with my music intake this year it's almost sad. It is sad. Sad that not a lot of good music is coming out. Or sad that it might be coming out in droves, but I've just been missing it. I've just been listening to DAMN., the new Jlin, the new Actress, and for a while the new Thurston. But mostly DAMN., and, sad as it sounds, The Life of Pablo. Like, a lot. Still. I'd be happy to give TLOP less play, but that would require one of two things to happen: either A: A more interesting NEW album comes out, or B: I grow tired of TLOP. The former seems almost entirely improbable. The latter... well... it's been out for a year and a half, and I haven't gone more than a couple of days without listening to it, so I'm not sure I'm on track to lose interest.

One one hand, it's great that an album has been so consistently rewarding for me. On the other hand, it's sad that it's only been one album.

But seriously, TLOP has almost definitely broken an all time listening-over-time record for me.

noisereductions 05.26.2017 08:53 AM

did you think you were replying to me and not louder? haha

Severian 05.26.2017 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
did you think you were replying to me and not louder? haha


Yep.

Goddamn louder and his goddamn no-avatar bullshit! This has happened before! I can't be expected to pay attention when there's no graphic or picture to give me a reason to pay attention. Bah!

noisereductions 05.26.2017 09:24 AM

louder, I did an image search for "louder". Here's some possible new avatars for you...

 


 


 


 

louder 05.26.2017 01:37 PM

Thanks NR. For whatever reason, the second one will do for now.

The Soup Nazi 05.26.2017 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Thanks NR. For whatever reason, the second one will do for now.


 

Severian 05.26.2017 05:52 PM

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He's thinking about a pressing financial issues in song form, while listening to unidentified music.

I feel like this doodle wasn't properly thought through.

The Soup Nazi 05.26.2017 08:04 PM

Old 97's with very special guest CAITLIN ROSE (my girlfriend!) — "Good With God" — March 14, 2017 on CONAN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sTEkkhFDRA

NOW this thread is cooking with gas!

Severian 05.26.2017 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Thanks NR. For whatever reason, the second one will do for now.


"For whatever reason" ;)

noisereductions 05.26.2017 11:20 PM

I knew it would be that one too. :)


I'll get *some* slack for this one. But sev feels me...


 


so y'know, there was basically pre-Nirvana/Nirvana/post-Nirvana "alternative". At least in my mind at the time. Right? And one of my favorite post-Nirvana bands in high school was Everclear. Probably the cool thing would have been to just realize that THIS album was fucking great. But no, I was super into them. Had everything I could find - World Of Noise, White Trash Hell, some promo stuff, saw them live, everything. Loved them. And I still have a weird soft spot but that's talk for another day. Because today I'll talk about Sparkle & Fade which is a fucking excellent album that I assume most dismiss because, well, it's Everclear. But this was before they really aimed for radio play. This shit is just really good - ahem - post-Nirvana alternative rock. "Electra Made Me Blind" is a killer opener. Then "Heroin Girl" and "You Make Me Feel Like A Whore" - total rockers. Great start. And if you ignore the overplayed "Santa Monica", which is fine, then there's plenty more great shit here. "Strawberry" is gorgeous. Just totally gorgeous. It's such a sad heroin song that manages to be upbeat with it's "don't fall down now/you will never get up" refrain counterbalanced against the brutal line "ten long years in a straight line/ they fall like water/ yes I guess I fucked up again." Wow. "The Twistinside" is another huge standout that nobody really mentions. But that cool lead and how it all builds up to the end. Plus Art made a bunch of lyrics that don't rhyme at all sound really natural - "breathing fire doesn't look good on a resume/but neither does anything else we do" - Great. There's some borderline um Cali-punk I guess? - with "Chemical Smile" and "Nahalem", and closer "My Sexual Life" is a fun semi-somber piece about being promiscuous in a small town. I don't know. There was plenty of pop-punk coming out of California at the time. But somehow this album from an Oregon band feels more like the summers I remember.

Severian 05.27.2017 09:37 AM

^^

Another weird choice, but there's no denying that some of those songs hit the right notes. "Santa Monica" weirdly combined the California rock ideal with four Pacific Northwestiness. And "Strawberry" is just a really, really good song.

noisereductions 05.27.2017 11:54 PM

haha "another weird choice" to listen to? Shrug.

 


Boy this is one of those albums that I've heard so many times that I'm not sure how to really talk about it. On one hand, I consider it a totally classic 90's rock album. On the other, well I've heard it a million times so it doesn't really do the same thing to me that it did years ago. But there's no denying that these are good, solid, catchy songs anyway. It feels a bit stiff to me compared to the stream of albums that would follow though. But I mean there's still some really good stuff here. "Even Flow" is still grunge stadium rock that feels good. "Alive" still works that Melvins riff into something fairly epic. "Black" is still pretty haunting. It's a pretty great album that I just kind of feel like I've overplayed I guess. PS: Why was it called Ten? I don't think I remember the answer to that one.

 


Rock N Roll is mid-tier RA for me. It's certainly not close to Heartbreaker or Gold before it. That's for sure. But it is one of those RA albums that shows why I've been such an endearing fan. He loves doing these random concept albums. And this was his - you guessed it - RNR album. With "This Is It" being his answer to The Strokes. Or "So Alive" sounding like, I don't know, a U2 hit? It's a bit of a mixed bag, but it does rock as promised. At least in a very Strokes-y/Interpol-y way. It's good. Not always great, but always good-to-great. My favorite track is probably "Anybody Wanna Take Me Home?" which is just a fantastic closing time track along the lines of a less sad "Come Pick Me Up." Also "Note To Self: Don't Die" is pretty awesome in its own hilarious way.

 


Hurley is Weezer by numbers. It's Weezer on auto-pilot. It sounds like Weezer. The songs are kind of catchy. But not much would bring you back. If you were wondering, I guess this would be my least favorite Weezer album. I don't hate it. Far from hate it. But I'd probably listen to every other Weezer album before this one. "Memories" is kind of good I guess. But stuff like "Where's My Sex" - it just feels like a retread of old Weezer. Like they wanted to relive "Tired Of Sex" but flip it on its head. There's too much aimless rehash here to justify the album. The weird thing is the sore thumb here - "Hang On" which is just so so so much better than everything else on the album. Man. It's a bummer. You get to track 7 and you hear "Hang On" and it really hits you how kind of middle-of-the-road Hurley is because if the whole album sounded like "Hang On" then this album would have been great. I still need to hunt down the deluxe edition for that Coldplay cover though haha. No wait - I lied. This is still better than Make Believe. Yes this is mediocre but it at least still sounds like Weezer. Ugh. I'll talk about Make Believe another time. This is like a 3/5 though. It's good - at least for a huge Weezer fan.

Severian 05.28.2017 08:32 AM

No. Listen to what makes you feel good bro. I just meant... another album NR loves that makes very little sense in the context of the board.

Sorry. Maybe I should delete the comment, but in the age of Trump, we don't do that. We double down on the dumb shit we say. ;)

noisereductions 05.28.2017 09:19 AM

I'm really not offended bud.

Severian 05.28.2017 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
haha "another weird choice" to listen to? Shrug.

 


Boy this is one of those albums that I've heard so many times that I'm not sure how to really talk about it. On one hand, I consider it a totally classic 90's rock album. On the other, well I've heard it a million times so it doesn't really do the same thing to me that it did years ago. But there's no denying that these are good, solid, catchy songs anyway. It feels a bit stiff to me compared to the stream of albums that would follow though. But I mean there's still some really good stuff here. "Even Flow" is still grunge stadium rock that feels good. "Alive" still works that Melvins riff into something fairly epic. "Black" is still pretty haunting. It's a pretty great album that I just kind of feel like I've overplayed I guess. PS: Why was it called Ten? I don't think I remember the answer to that one.

 


Rock N Roll is mid-tier RA for me. It's certainly not close to Heartbreaker or Gold before it. That's for sure. But it is one of those RA albums that shows why I've been such an endearing fan. He loves doing these random concept albums. And this was his - you guessed it - RNR album. With "This Is It" being his answer to The Strokes. Or "So Alive" sounding like, I don't know, a U2 hit? It's a bit of a mixed bag, but it does rock as promised. At least in a very Strokes-y/Interpol-y way. It's good. Not always great, but always good-to-great. My favorite track is probably "Anybody Wanna Take Me Home?" which is just a fantastic closing time track along the lines of a less sad "Come Pick Me Up." Also "Note To Self: Don't Die" is pretty awesome in its own hilarious way.

 


Hurley is Weezer by numbers. It's Weezer on auto-pilot. It sounds like Weezer. The songs are kind of catchy. But not much would bring you back. If you were wondering, I guess this would be my least favorite Weezer album. I don't hate it. Far from hate it. But I'd probably listen to every other Weezer album before this one. "Memories" is kind of good I guess. But stuff like "Where's My Sex" - it just feels like a retread of old Weezer. Like they wanted to relive "Tired Of Sex" but flip it on its head. There's too much aimless rehash here to justify the album. The weird thing is the sore thumb here - "Hang On" which is just so so so much better than everything else on the album. Man. It's a bummer. You get to track 7 and you hear "Hang On" and it really hits you how kind of middle-of-the-road Hurley is because if the whole album sounded like "Hang On" then this album would have been great. I still need to hunt down the deluxe edition for that Coldplay cover though haha. No wait - I lied. This is still better than Make Believe. Yes this is mediocre but it at least still sounds like Weezer. Ugh. I'll talk about Make Believe another time. This is like a 3/5 though. It's good - at least for a huge Weezer fan.


You don't need to talk about Make Believe dude. Thanks and stuff but nah. ;)

Severian 05.28.2017 10:23 AM

Oh, Pearl Jam named Ten after Mookie Blaylock's jersey number.

Which I don't get. Not even a little bit. First of all, Blaylock never played for a team with any geographical connection to any of the members of PJ. Secondly, Mookie Blaylock? Fuckin' really?! Why?!! Name it after a fuckin' Supersonic, you dicks!

Gary Payton was a first round second-overall pick in the 1990 draft and went right to the Supersonicsand his number was 20. Call it fuckin' "Twenty" if you have to name it after a baller's jersey!

Mookie? Fuck you!

noisereductions 05.28.2017 10:51 AM

oh yeah yeah that's right. I'm really glad the label convinced them to change the name of the band. Haha.

Severian 05.28.2017 11:45 AM

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oh yeah yeah that's right. I'm really glad the label convinced them to change the name of the band. Haha.


Wait, what was the original? I forget.

Oh yeah, it was "Mookie Blaylock." :mad:

:fuckyou: Seriously, WTF? What terrible Seattleites! I mean I know Ed wasn't a native, but still! Fuck that noise! What a god awful band name!

That just pisses me off to think about.

:fuckyou:

"Pearl Jam" is actually a pretty godforsaken terrible name too. Especially when you know it's origin story. Like, it becomes even dumber when you know what it means. But it's better than the alternative.

"Nirvana." Now that was an inspired band name. Fuck the British guys. OUR Nirvana. The name and the font. It's as immediately recognizable as the classic "The Beatles" logo that informed its typeface. Pure, elemental, slightly abstract conceptually, and, as always, a total contradiction to what the music actually sounded like.

Severian 05.28.2017 11:46 AM

Best early Pearl Jam is "State of Love and Trust" and "Breath" and "Hunger Strike" (yeah, it's TOTD, but it's also basically PJ ft. SG.

noisereductions 05.28.2017 12:27 PM

Certainly better than Fecal Matter or Pen Cap Chew.

_tunic_ 05.28.2017 12:58 PM


 




 




 



 




_tunic_ 05.28.2017 12:59 PM

and if there's still time left this sunny sunday evening:

 

Severian 05.28.2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
Certainly better than Fecal Matter or Pen Cap Chew.


Ehh... not sure about that.

Severian 05.28.2017 04:56 PM

 


I think this album was just a little but overly jizzed over in 2016. I mean, it was definitely one of the strongest R-A-P albums of the year, but in terms of musical versatility, it's merely versatile for a R-A-P album. Not for a genre that is in flux like hip-hop. In other words, not compared to what what Kanye and ATCQ and Frank Ocean were doing. No sir.

But still, this is a seriously good rap record, and "Lost" is one of the strongest balls out jams in a while. So rowdy.

So yeah I'm listening to this.

I was listening to the new Beatles Sgt. Pepper's deluxe edition. Damn those songs sound great.

The Soup Nazi 05.28.2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Old 97's with very special guest CAITLIN ROSE (my girlfriend!) — "Good With God" — March 14, 2017 on CONAN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sTEkkhFDRA

NOW this thread is cooking with gas!


 

noisereductions 05.30.2017 10:02 AM

 


I don't know why it took so long to get a proper* live album from Nirvana, but Live At Reading is great. Of course everyone knew that for years. It's one of the most bootlegged shows of the band. But the setlist is great - w/ shit from all the albums and even some rarities; the clarity is great and they crammed as much as they could on a single disc. Bootleg collectors may well wish to just stick to the version they've had forever. But I'm super happy w/ the above ground release of this one.

*meaning Unplugged is acoustic, and Muddy Banks is a compilation.

_tunic_ 05.30.2017 12:05 PM

 


https://soundcloud.com/undayrecords/...horseman-twist

Not their latest album, but this is so good! Check Dime very soon for some stunning live sets from my archives!

Severian 05.30.2017 03:39 PM

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I don't know why it took so long to get a proper* live album from Nirvana, but Live At Reading is great. Of course everyone knew that for years. It's one of the most bootlegged shows of the band. But the setlist is great - w/ shit from all the albums and even some rarities; the clarity is great and they crammed as much as they could on a single disc. Bootleg collectors may well wish to just stick to the version they've had forever. But I'm super happy w/ the above ground release of this one.

*meaning Unplugged is acoustic, and Muddy Banks is a compilation.


Fuck yeah Reading.

I don't think live albums are defined by single show vs. compilation, really. Single shows are often chopped and twisted a bit on record, and I think compilations count as live albums. Like Pearl Jam's Live on Two Legs... that's a compilation, but it's all from the same tour, so... yah. I've never thought much about the distinction, but I guess it's there.

I would totally call Unplugged a proper love album by your definition though. It being mostly acoustic doesn't matter.

I love this show though, and I'm so glad they released an above board version of it.

The Soup Nazi 05.30.2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
I would totally call Unplugged a proper love album


 

noisereductions 05.30.2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Fuck yeah Reading.

I don't think live albums are defined by single show vs. compilation, really. Single shows are often chopped and twisted a bit on record, and I think compilations count as live albums. Like Pearl Jam's Live on Two Legs... that's a compilation, but it's all from the same tour, so... yah. I've never thought much about the distinction, but I guess it's there.

I would totally call Unplugged a proper love album by your definition though. It being mostly acoustic doesn't matter.

I love this show though, and I'm so glad they released an above board version of it.


hey, Unplugged is one of my fav Nirvana albums period. But you make a good point w/ Live On Two Legs. I think I was just more thinking that it took a long time before we started hearing live Nirvana albums that really kind of competed w/ the bootlegs. Don't get me wrong, I love Unplugged and Wishkah... but y'know, growing up I owned MANY live Nirvana boots, and would have been happy to hear some specific full shows as official releases. So this was kind of the start of that anyway.

Severian 05.30.2017 04:18 PM

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hey, Unplugged is one of my fav Nirvana albums period. But you make a good point w/ Live On Two Legs. I think I was just more thinking that it took a long time before we started hearing live Nirvana albums that really kind of competed w/ the bootlegs. Don't get me wrong, I love Unplugged and Wishkah... but y'know, growing up I owned MANY live Nirvana boots, and would have been happy to hear some specific full shows as official releases. So this was kind of the start of that anyway.


I gotcha man. Same here. Only I saw them live ( :cool: ) so that quelled my fascination with boots a bit. At least when I remembered it.

See, we have a little thing going on here. You say stuff about an album, and I contradict something superficial about what you're saying. :D It's like a marriage!

noisereductions 05.30.2017 05:25 PM

Lol it does feel right.

Severian 05.30.2017 05:56 PM

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No.... no soup for you.

The Soup Nazi 05.30.2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
No.... no soup for you.


You're the one who mistyped, TINY. To be fair, though, the keys "I" and "O" are right next to each other. :)

Severian 05.30.2017 09:02 PM

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You're the one who mistyped, TINY. To be fair, though, the keys "I" and "O" are right next to each other. :)


Mis-tapped. iPhone.

I'm Tiny now? Lucky for you I am quite small of frame, or them would be fightin' words!

noisereductions 05.30.2017 09:43 PM

 


One Foot In The Grave was my favorite. And Stereopathetic Soulmanure is arguably a better example of all the sides of Beck at this time. But Mellow Gold was my (and most's?) introduction. And the fact that it was his major label debut is impressive. Cuz this shit is actually pretty weird. He was touted as this anti-folk dude - and tracks like "Pay No Mind" (amazing!), "Whiskeyclone Hotel City 1997", "Fukin With My Head" and "Nightmare Hippy Girl" all back this up. But then he had his weird quasi-rap stuff like "Loser" which was of course a hit, but that riff is still badass. Or "Beercan" which samples the GD Melvins! Then he's got "Truck Drivin Neighbors Downstairs" with its audible tape hiss and slowed vocals. Then a re-recording of "Motherfucker" from Golden Feelings which is like folk metal. But maybe the finest moment here for me is "Steel My Body Home" which I feel like predicts the atmospheric stuff he'd do later on Mutations or something. This album is all over the place and a reminder of a time when major labels just got the hell out of the way and let an artist make their album. It's awesome and I'll always love it big time.


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