Pitchfork tried to act like his verse on “Cop Shoots Kid” is right wing “all-sides” propaganda... cakes it disingenuous.

Like a bunch of white people get to decide if Kanye’s still culturally black enough to talk about black issues? There’s something *scary* fucked about that.

And I was more pissed than anyone I know about his Trump comments. But lord fucking have mercy, this is some bullshit.

long shot: anyone aware of a source that has all (or most) of Mos Def's guest spots I can listen to?

Don't feel like making a playlist or mix myself and I'm hoping someone else went through the effort.

pull up n wreck.....

Well... Spotify and Apple Music come to mind.
Some of his early guest spots are hard to come by, like the stuff from Soundbombing Vol. 1, but most of them should be available on the regular platforms.

I’ll look for a list though, if you want.

(Also you can go ahead and start with his most recent feature, the song “Kids See Ghosts” form the album “Kids See Ghosts” by Kids See Ghosts. :D

Too busy listening to Sebadoh, but I'll check it out. :-)


I actually have all 3 Soundbombings on CD. Cuz I'm dope. And they were about 3 bucks each at the used store.

Again, a list to read isn't hard to come by, but I don't wanna hunt down every track to listen to. Wasn't sure if there was a mixtape or something already out there.

Man...

There's something about Mos that annoys me. He's really arrogant or something.

But holy fuck he's a truly great rapper. Spent about a half hour last night carefully examining the lyric to "Hip Hop" like I would a poem for English class.

He used to be my favorite, back when his career average was significantly better. In like 2002.

Yeah, what's up with THE NEW DANGER? I think it kinda sucks, but I've only spun it two or three times. Because it sucks--vicious circle. I don't think I'll ever get into that one.

Had a couple good tracks, but mostly yeah, huge drop off from Black on Both Sides. It’s better than True Magic, though.

He REALLY bounced back with The Ecstatic, which I think is the best and most consistent of his albums by far. Then he went dark for nearly a decade and crapped out that Tidal exclusive half-assed Yeezus tribute album in 2016 or whatever. Blech

Kids See Ghosts though.

Mac Miller's new single and music video are surprisingly beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsKT0s5J8ko

I'll assume anyone with ears can agree "Auditorium" is the dopest beat ever laid down.

Strangely, Def's rap isn't among his best. Not bad, but doesn't rise to the glorious heights he's capable of. Rick's verse is a triumph tho.

****

Are you starting to think KIDS beats out YE, even if just by a little?

Mos openly tried to emulate MF DOOM throughout The Ecstatic.

I think Kids is a more consistent album, but I prefer ye.

I REALLY wish he’d just marketed them as EPs though. Because Jesus they are short. And “Ye” has a couple cringey moments on “Violent Crimes” despite being sonically awesome. If he called it an EP, the bad reviews would bounce off his proper discography. Calling it an album, with audiences and critics so freaking split, hurts a bit, because his record was just pristine.

Kids See Ghosts works at that length. But I wish there was either more to Ye or that it could fall into the “EP” category.

Still, all the songs are great, and I think “Ghost Town” really makes it. As do “I thought About Killing You” and “Yikes.”

Ye is my fave, but KSG works a little better. I wouldn’t want a full album of potential Cudi mishaps. I still can’t believe it came out so goddamn perfect.

That’s ok though. Better than what he’d been doing.

Definitely.

Hey did we already talk about Kanye producing a 7-song Chance album?

Oh, and “No Mistakes.” Fucking shit that’s some good stuff. Oh yeah

I just got my physical copy of “Ye” by the way

Listening to the new Chief Keef mixtape and I really like the first song.

Don’t really want to like it, but I do.

The rest of it probably sounds like nothing and everything, I’ll bet.

GZA's Tiny Desk Concert

https://www.npr.org/event/music/6073...y-desk-concert

Rich Homie Quan show on Friday was good. Openers sucked. The Bar he played at had a broken AC, which was fucked how. (It was 102 in Houston on Friday), but Rich Homie Quan still put on a great set, and hyped it up and it was awesome.

^ That sounds straight up dangerous. Was everyone OK? Any passing out?

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MOOD. So slept on. Straight outta Cincinnati. Hi-Tek production.

https://open.spotify.com/artist/71NaLZka57nO0DNfaqYc31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrkGqrP0hBU

It was very subdued. Too fucking hot. I have no idea how the groupies/pros manage to wear their hair and makeups and tight synthetic fabric min-dresses. Frankly, most everyone stayed out on the patio until the show began, it was too fucking hot in the bar. RHQ kept the energy up tho

Gonna blast Travi$ Scott's ASTROWORLD on the way home to check it out

His best album in my opinion. Glorious.

Everyone is talking about Don Tolliver, who guests on track #13 of the Astroworld album. Houston's own. he released a mix tape today. http://2dopeboyz.com/2018/08/03/don-...omack-mixtape/

Sounds a lot like everything else by Travis Scott. Kind of a snoozer if you ask me. Nothing as stark or interesting as “Pornography.”

louders hip hop caf VII
 

Vncnt - listen to Kendrick Lamars album. He is the biggest breath of fresh air for modern hip-hop in years.

Who’s Vncnt?

And everyone who’s going to listen to Kdot here already does compulsively. Rob, for instance, isn’t going near it because it’s not mumbly and from Houston. Noisereductions abandoned Kenny cuz he only has free time to listen to old music.

Really? I liked it a lot.. on my second listen, actually. Thought it was a snoozer on my first listen too.

I like a few tracks, but there’s nothing exciting going on here.
“Skeletons” is good, but it sounds like Kanye ghost wrote the verse around the 0:52 mark. That shit is Kanye all over, from flow to word choice to delivery. Just in Travis’ voice.

I just really think trap as a style is one of the most boring goddamn trends in rap history. Maybe if Travis wasn’t constantly repeating the same cadence (ducking everywhere) and peppering every song on every album wth adlibs, maybe it wouldn’t be so goddamn redundant and such a waste of time.

I get that he’s trying to be a curator here. This is supposed to be a big opus. But he shoots hinself in the foot when he limits his rapping to the same goddamn sounds and grunts at the same times with the same cadence and variations on the same beat constantly. It ends up sounding NOT like an opus, NOT like something “big,” but like every other mixtape and crappy forgettable album out there. It’s honestly only slightly more interesting than the album he did with Quavo.

And that cartoon version of his face he loves so much, with the dreads coming out at every angle, just totally undermines his assertion that this is somehow big or different. “Hey look at my dumb little kid face.. take me seriously!”

I loved songs like “Pornography” because they didn’t fall into the mold. They sounded weird and off-kilter. This just sounds like a bigger budget EVERYTHING.

Literally the most interesting part for me two listens in is when he apes Kanye’s flow shamelessly, because at least it’s not “mumble-triplet” *blah!* “mumble-in-triplet” *Yeah!* “mumble-in-triplet” *SQWEE!* or whatever the fuck.

Snore.

Love the Frank feature. It’s not bad... but my god, how much better would it be if Scott didn’t insist on driving the trap thing into the ground.

Don’t appreciate the Drake feature.
Should I’ve been Frank again.

Should always be Frank.

kendrick lamar's albums leave me wanting. His ideas are ok cool, for a twenty something who ain't lived shit yet. His rhyme scheme is allright, for whiny teenager sounding rapper. the beats he or his handlers choose for him are allright, but nothing that makes me think I should give a shit.

Re: Astroworld, 50% straight DULL. 90% mid-tempo boring beats, I fear that this is the kind of music that is created by someone whose life is easy, soft, self-absorbed, and with no real connection anymore to what the cutting-edge of his chosen genre is doing. There are some good tracks, but most are bland. His "flow" gets to me sometimes because of the repetitiveness of his auto-tune settings.



I heard nothing on Astroworld that is groundbreaking, or exciting, or even FUN.


Millionaires making hip hop are the fucking worst. Kanye's latest shit sux. Jay Z's latest shit sux. All these fuckers, when they get rich as fuck and start living hyper-boogie lives, their fucking art suffers.

My disappointment is that Travis Scott was never trying to do TRAP. he is more of a prog-rap producer, his tracks (when they are good, and Travis is a better producer than rapper for sure) are slow, methodical, take time to explore, and always have interesting endings and codas. Nothing on Astroworld matches his previous inventive stuff.


I will re-listen, but I preferred YOung Thugs and Future's SUPER SLIMY! hahahhahaha

You have the most boring taste in hip-hop ever bro.

I don’t get it. Listening to “DNA” doesn’t give you feels, or “The Blacker the Berry” or “The Art of Peer Pressure?” But Future does it for you every time?

He’s a better rapper than anyone you hype. All of the people you hype. Combined. With better lyrics, better beats and a better message and sense of purpose. You basically listen to glam rock over Nirvana.

I’m actually starting to dig it. Some good moments amid the boring ones.

Dude your opinion SUX

Really? Kendrick "ain't lived"? He's been through so much though..

Young Thug and Future aren't millionaires??

Louder, let him be. Like Tom Hardy says, that shit is bait, pure and simple.

Looking at the modern rap landscape, we’re in an era where Kendrick’s mastery of not only the craft but the culture is undeniable. I don’t think there’s ever been an era in hip-hop where one artist stood out so definitively as the greatest. Not even in 2Pac’s absolute prime... not even when Eminem was blowing white kids away with how white hip-hop could be (and also spitting some genuine fire from time to time).

I say this as a dude who has not NOT listened to Kanye West in more than five years, but still... Kendrick is the king as far as rappers go, and saying otherwise is nonsense baiting.

One only has to look at Kendrick’s rhyme schemes to appreciate his mastery of craft, and one only had to listen to how good he makes halfwit producers like Dr. Dre and Mike Will Made It sound to understand his supremacy in the ‘10s.

My guess is that Rob has still never listened to a full Kendrick album.