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evollove 12.10.2018 11:41 AM

I'm generous enough to allow for a typo. But he fucks it up twice in the same tweet.

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 11:57 AM

machiavellian spin: he did it on purpose to rally his illiterate base against the smug college-educated liberal elites

(kellyann’s work)

h8kurdt 12.10.2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
machiavellian spin: he did it on purpose to rally his illiterate base against the smug college-educated liberal elites

(kellyann’s work)


You know what? I can actually believe that.

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You know what? I can actually believe that.

yes

hillaria won in the most educated districts, trumpet in the most uneducated

this is how democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory: they focus on irrelevant bullshit and alienate supporters

see for example: https://www.businessinsider.com/libe...nnoying-2017-7

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 12:56 PM

also consider how trump in spite of his purported fortune (which is much smaller than he claims, which is why he hides his tax returns) is an outsider relative to the moneyed elites.

old new york money looked down on his queens slumlord empire and his nouveau riche tabloid ways

thus he understands the psychology of resentment, and this is how he con/nects with his base. yes he connects--and then cons them.

but anyway let’s worry about his spelling. because that’s what’s important!

ilduclo 12.10.2018 01:38 PM

Eric Garner or Jamaal Kashoggi?

“I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe.”

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 01:51 PM

THE MYTH OF THE "ADULT IN THE ROOM"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...82f_story.html

President Trump always seemed like he was collecting generals the way some children collect Barbie dolls — not necessarily because he liked interacting with them but because he liked having them, all lined up in their best outfits, ready to be admired by popular world leaders who might come for a play date. Here is my National Security Adviser. Here are my Secretary of Defense and my Chief of Staff.

[...]

But meanwhile, let’s be careful about how much we preemptively applaud the next adult in the room. No matter how impressive the résumé or the uniform, no matter how official and reassuring they look. Sometimes, an adult in the room just provides the veneer of maturity that helps a toddler in the room get away with everything.

choc e-Claire 12.10.2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hillaria won in the most educated districts, trumpet in the most uneducated

I remember that in a book I read (Everybody Lies, by Seth Somethingwithahyphen), he found that there was a strong correlation between areas that voted for Trump in the Republican primaries and areas with a high volume of searches for 'nigger president' in 2008.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I remember that in a book I read (Everybody Lies, by Seth Somethingwithahyphen), he found that there was a strong correlation between areas that voted for Trump in the Republican primaries and areas with a high volume of searches for 'nigger president' in 2008.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

trump's coalition is a heterodox one, and lumping all members together does not help disassemble it

eta: read this again: https://www.businessinsider.com/libe...nnoying-2017-7

I think it makes more sense to think of Trump's voters as being like any heterodox coalition, which you seek to defeat by splitting it. Offer what you can to win some of them over without conceding on what you hold dearest.


i'm no columbus (lost at sea) but i've been circling around those ideas for some time now rather than follow the partisan chorus

it does help me clarify things. like how to fight.

Skuj 12.10.2018 03:17 PM

Everything got so dumbed down.

How do we dumb it up again?

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Everything got so dumbed down.

How do we dumb it up again?

we repeat what everyone else is saying and join the chorus

join the chorus

join the chorus

(like that)

Skuj 12.10.2018 03:50 PM

I first read that as "join the circus".

Skuj 12.10.2018 03:56 PM

I'd love to be a fly on the dining room wall in the Conway residence.

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 04:09 PM

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said Monday that Democrats shouldn’t focus on investigating President Trump when they retake the House majority in January because there are bigger issues facing the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...65a_story.html

BUT THEN

Critics were quick to point out that in 2014, McCarthy and other House Republican leaders set up a special committee dedicated to investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americans were killed. The following year, in an interview with Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, McCarthy credited the panel with having put a dent in Hillary Clinton’s poll numbers.

“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?” McCarthy said at the time. “But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought.”

Skuj 12.10.2018 05:13 PM

I couldn't resist:

3 Chief of Staffs in less than 3 years of being President: Part of the reason why @BarackObama can't manage to pass his agenda.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 10, 2012

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I couldn't resist:

3 Chief of Staffs in less than 3 years of being President: Part of the reason why @BarackObama can't manage to pass his agenda.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 10, 2012

must spread more nutella

ilduclo 12.10.2018 05:46 PM

One of the administrators responsible for protecting diversity among federal employees has effectively admitted that guidance protecting transgender workers was removed to make it easier to discriminate against them.

Over the Thanksgiving holiday, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which oversees all federal employees, surreptitiously removed language from its website which detailed how to respect transgender employees. At the time, the administration made no public comment explaining the change.

https://thinkprogress.org/opm-justif...-72c746043c45/

Bytor Peltor 12.10.2018 07:29 PM

I’ve been told it’s really good coffee, but I’m not a coffee drinker.

 

choc e-Claire 12.10.2018 07:49 PM

I...

Are there words to describe his facial expression?

tw2113 12.10.2018 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I...

Are there words to describe his facial expression?

Punch worthy?

!@#$%! 12.10.2018 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I’ve been told it’s really good coffee, but I’m not a coffee drinker.

 


golden shower blend?

Skuj 12.11.2018 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by evollove
How bad would a Trump presidency be? I mean, really?

"He'll build a wall." Think he'll keep any campaign promises? Ha. Others haven't, and they were made of stronger moral fiber, so why would he?

So, taking away his big talking points, how can we predict what would actually happen? I'm drawing a blank. Might not be that bad. I mean, not end-of-the-world bad. Just a bunch of eh and blah perhaps.



I have no idea why I get drunk and then do this from time to time.

Skuj 12.11.2018 03:41 PM

I woke up slightly groggy this morning.....and then I saw that Oval Office meeting.

evollove 12.11.2018 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I have no idea why I get drunk and then do this from time to time.


I'm curious when I wrote that. Had he already won?

Also, have you really read all 282 pages of this fucking thing?

Skuj 12.11.2018 04:17 PM

Every now and then I go back to the early pages and election night. I enjoy chewing tinfoil, I guess.

You know what's weird? I swear I remember tesla saying a lot of things early on that were critical of Trump. (Or maybe I was drunk then, too.)

evollove 12.11.2018 04:22 PM

Hm. Tesla was critical and I was a little generous? Weird. I'll take your word for it. I'm sure this is a fascinating thread, but I'll read it in 2020 perhaps.

Skuj 12.11.2018 04:28 PM

I will never stop being fascinated in how someone like Donald Fucking Trump became POTUS.

When I quoted your old post, I wasn't trying to knock you or anything. It's just interesting to see what we were thinking then vs the reality (nightmare) now.

!@#$%! 12.11.2018 05:44 PM

lmfao im watching the shitshow

pelosi needs to talk louder. thank fuck for chucky

border security

border security

border security


hahahahahahaha

-

ok that was depressing

Skuj 12.11.2018 07:39 PM

I dunno....is it possible that this meeting/argument actually played well to The Base? I mean....it was actually good for Trump?

Skuj 12.11.2018 07:40 PM

I wonder what he is smocking these days.

!@#$%! 12.11.2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I dunno....is it possible that this meeting/argument actually played well to The Base? I mean....it was actually good for Trump?

yes of course

just ask bytoe

The Soup Nazi 12.11.2018 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
she was great in Brooklyn ;)


And she loves reading history books.

Tiny, on the other hand...

!@#$%! 12.11.2018 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
But we both know that's what they're going to do now, don't we? ;)

lolololololololo...




...yes :(

Skuj 12.12.2018 12:44 PM

So, Cohen gets 3 years. It was fascinating what was said at sentencing, by Cohen and other lawyers. I now await the tweets and the spin.

(Are the teslas and Bytors still unconvinced that any of this is connected to Trump himself?)

Nevermind 12.12.2018 02:39 PM

John and Tody Podesta kidnapped the fuck out of Madeleine McCann.

There's no evidence Trump is a pedophile - there's at least some evidence that Hillary and Podesta are.

Guess who's your president?

Skuj 12.12.2018 04:17 PM

Wait.......what?

What just happened?

Can somebody explain "Nevermind" to me?

(I'm quite sure I'll be adding this person to my ignores, but maybe there is a joke that I am not getting.)

Edit: Fuck me!! Now I remember previous similar posts and I thought I put this idiot on ignore already. Done.

!@#$%! 12.12.2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Wait.......what?

What just happened?

Can somebody explain "Nevermind" to me?

(I'm quite sure I'll be adding this person to my ignores, but maybe there is a joke that I am not getting.)

schizophrenia

is taking him home

choc e-Claire 12.12.2018 04:35 PM

The Trump administration has decided that Vietnamese migrants who arrived before the establishment of diplomatic ties between the U.S. and Vietnam are subject to standard immigration law - meaning they are all eligible for deportation.

(via The Atlantic)

Bytor Peltor 12.12.2018 04:53 PM

(but her emails)......Merry Christmas Hillary

evollove 12.12.2018 05:09 PM

Maybe Hillary did something horribly illegal which should land her in prison. I dunno. I haven't personally followed her every day for the past three decades or so to determine that.

But Judicial Watch is objectively a pretty awful group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judici..._controversies

I know. It's wikipedia. But follow the footnotes. What a horrible group of people.

Frankly, their shittiness does more harm to the conservative movement than the liberal one.

Dude, if you want some quality conservative journalism, check out American Conservative. Bland name, but often good pieces.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/


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