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noisereductions 04.23.2014 05:54 PM

 

 

noisereductions 04.23.2014 09:44 PM

tonight listening to

 


 


 

louder 04.24.2014 01:17 AM

RZA Gives Raekwon 30-Day Deadline on New Wu-Tang Clan Album, Says It May Not Come Out at All
http://pitchfork.com/news/54916-rza-...me-out-at-all/
Quote:

"The album is slated to come out in July," he said. "If we don't come to terms [with Raekwon], I think, within the next 30 days, then this will either be an album without Raekwon or an album that never sees the light of day. And that's a very strong potential."

"I would not want to put out a Wu-Tang album without every live member available," he said. "At the same time, I don't want the fans not to have this incredible music that we've been workin' on for the last year. So that's gonna be a tough decision, but we've got about 30 days to make that decision and come to that conclusion."

already two group albums we might never hear then? goddamn.

louder 04.24.2014 02:07 AM

wish 36 Chambers got the reissue treatment.

what is y'all fav song on the album?

mine is CAN IT ALL BE SO SIMPLE.
Da Mystery of Chessboxin' comes a close 2nd.

Rob Instigator 04.24.2014 08:22 AM

Protect Ya Neck

louder 04.24.2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Protect Ya Neck

The Genius' verse on that joint has me going nuts every time.

First of all, who's your A&R?
A mountain climber who plays an electric guitar?
But he don't know the meaning of dope
When he's looking for a suit-and-tie rap that's cleaner than a bar of soap
And I'm the dirtiest thing in sight
Matter of fact, bring out the girls and let's have a mud fight

noisereductions 04.24.2014 08:48 AM

I don't know why 36 Chambers and Midnight Marauders went w/o 2013 reissues. Lame.

Favorite song on 36? Damn. Uh. Probably "Chessboxin" but who knows. Can I say that as each song starts I'm like "oh THIS is my fav song!"

noisereductions 04.24.2014 08:50 AM

new A$AP Mob vid "Xcape"

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/videos...welvyy-xscape-

noisereductions 04.24.2014 09:45 AM

"Ghostface... my g'lock burst!"

noisereductions 04.24.2014 07:43 PM

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.24.2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
I don't know why 36 Chambers and Midnight Marauders went w/o 2013 reissues. Lame.

Favorite song on 36? Damn. Uh. Probably "Chessboxin" but who knows. Can I say that as each song starts I'm like "oh THIS is my fav song!"


Why does everything have to get reissued or remixed or remastered? The original releases were perfectly fine, we all have them already, they are already available for anybody who doesn't, personally I always thought of reissues are strictly recording industry bullshit, and the way I understand it, most bands and artists feel the same way. Usually they're forced on people through contract obligations. Then there is the Courtney Love approach, release Nirvana shit that ONLY she owns purposely to fuck out Dave and Krist and cash in. She is like the epitome of the 1950s big studio music industry slime. So are most reissues

noisereductions 04.24.2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Why does everything have to get reissued or remixed or remastered? The original releases were perfectly fine, we all have them already, they are already available for anybody who doesn't, personally I always thought of reissues are strictly recording industry bullshit, and the way I understand it, most bands and artists feel the same way. Usually they're forced on people through contract obligations. Then there is the Courtney Love approach, release Nirvana shit that ONLY she owns purposely to fuck out Dave and Krist and cash in. She is like the epitome of the 1950s big studio music industry slime. So are most reissues


for me it's about the bonus shit though.

But the best way to celebrate an album is how Mobb Deep did this year. To celebrate The Infamous... they put out a new album that's a bit of an homage to that record, as well as a disc of demos from 1994. That's great.

I guess instead of "reissue" I should say I'd love to see a disc of Enter The Wu-Tang, or Midnight Marauders (or any album I love) b-sides and outtakes.

an evening with viewtiful 04.25.2014 09:22 AM

What really intrigues me about Wu-Tang reissues is the possibility that there are verses from group members on songs they weren't on officially. Did Ghostface take a stab at CREAM? Did ODB originally have a verse on Bring Da Ruckus?
That kind of stuff would get me to buy… phoned in remixes? not so much.

louder 04.25.2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by an evening with viewtiful
What really intrigues me about Wu-Tang reissues is the possibility that there are verses from group members on songs they weren't on officially. Did Ghostface take a stab at CREAM? Did ODB originally have a verse on Bring Da Ruckus?
That kind of stuff would get me to buy… phoned in remixes? not so much.

if i recall correctly, Deck said he originally had two verses on CREAM, but the song ended up being too long, so he cut off the 2nd verse and added a part of it to the 1st. maybe Rae did the same.

a documentary about the proccess of making the album would be great. even though this is already great enough to me: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UTB46KwtoM4

young GZA was already so intelligent.

it kills me how Rae used to say "know what i'm sayin" at the end of every sentence, he was cool as fuck though.

louder 04.25.2014 01:04 PM

on youtube there's a documentary about the Wu that is narrated by Cappadonna. weird stuff. i stopped watching it halfway through cuz all he did was highlighting himself.

anyway the one i posted in the last page is the best, in my opinion. for some reason it's not even listed on Wikipedia or IMDB.

louder 04.25.2014 03:09 PM

SZA's new album is so beautiful. in my top 5 of the year so far.

Severian 04.25.2014 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
so viewtiful.. do you like Honest?


So far I prefer the Gucci Mane and Young Thug mix That just came out to Honest... Except for Future's killer collaboration tracks. Kanye, Andre... I can just stop there. But the tracks that contain mainly Future on his own are nothing special for me at this point.

Gucci and Thug put one mean mixtape together though. Damn.

louder 04.26.2014 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
So far I prefer the Gucci Mane and Young Thug mix That just came out to Honest... Except for Future's killer collaboration tracks. Kanye, Andre... I can just stop there. But the tracks that contain mainly Future on his own are nothing special for me at this point.

Gucci and Thug put one mean mixtape together though. Damn.

:eek: don't get me wrong, the Thug/Gucci tape is nice.. but Honest is crazy, man.

my favs of the year so far:

1. Pinata
2. Clivia Demo
3. Honest
4. Z

Bytor Peltor 04.26.2014 08:33 PM

RIP DJ Rashad

foreverasskiss 04.26.2014 10:11 PM

Bytor Peltor rarely posts in this thread but he rules it above all.

you should post more up in here. when you do, it's hella good.

EVOLghost 04.27.2014 12:08 AM

How is this hella good? A dood died.

foreverasskiss 04.27.2014 12:09 AM

it's not. i didn't even see the RIP until now. i just know when he posts something hip hop related, it damn good. wasn't talking about that particular track or artist.

Severian 04.27.2014 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
:eek: don't get me wrong, the Thug/Gucci tape is nice.. but Honest is crazy, man.

my favs of the year so far:

1. Pinata
2. Clivia Demo
3. Honest
4. Z


Ok now I feel like a butt tard.

What's "Z"?

louder 04.27.2014 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

i've heard some of his stuff before, wasn't crazy about it, but it's obviously sad that he died so young. RIP.

louder 04.27.2014 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian
Ok now I feel like a butt tard.

What's "Z"?

an album by the R&B singer SZA, she's a member of TDE (aka the group with Kendrick, Schoolboy, etc, etc.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Daw...inment#Artists).

her album only consists of 10 tracks, perhaps it's considered an EP.. but anyway i find it beautiful and strangely addictive. features production by Toro Y Moi, XXYYXX and more.

guest 04.27.2014 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

miserable day isn't it...also found out that the legendary natty brooker also died this week.

noisereductions 04.27.2014 09:03 AM

 

an evening with viewtiful 04.27.2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
:eek: don't get me wrong, the Thug/Gucci tape is nice.. but Honest is crazy, man.

my favs of the year so far:

1. Pinata
2. Clivia Demo
3. Honest
4. Z

Haven't heard honest yet.. but my top 5 hip hop goes:

1. Pinata
2. Clivia Demo
3. My Krazy Life
4. Oxymoron
5. Mastermind

noisereductions 04.27.2014 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by an evening with viewtiful
Haven't heard honest yet.. but my top 5 hip hop goes:

1. Pinata
2. Clivia Demo
3. My Krazy Life
4. Oxymoron
5. Mastermind


five albums that I've only listened to bits of, but can't seem to get into any. I must be missing something. I think Good Kid and Long Live A$AP has set my expectations really high on new releases.

Severian 04.27.2014 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
an album by the R&B singer SZA, she's a member of TDE (aka the group with Kendrick, Schoolboy, etc, etc.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Daw...inment#Artists).

her album only consists of 10 tracks, perhaps it's considered an EP.. but anyway i find it beautiful and strangely addictive. features production by Toro Y Moi, XXYYXX and more.


SZA... Wait, is there any affiliation with Ski Beatz there? I seem to recall seeing that name when I was listening to DJ Ski's album for the first time earlier this year. Maybe I'm thinking of DZA (Smoke DZA), but anything that ends in "ZA" and has three letters is going to spark my interest, because I'll think "Wu Tang Clan."

Now I'm kinda wondering why anyone would end their name with "ZA," knowing damn well that they're sipping from an ancient and sacred style of moniker creation. Lol.

I guess my top 5 so far are:

Talib Kweli - Gravitas
Gibbs & Madlib - Pińata
Doppelgangaz - Peace Kehd
Smoke DZA - Dream.Zone.Achieved
Isaiah Rashad - Clivia Demo
(Does The Infamous 2014 disc count?)

(No order... Too soon... Basically just waiting for KANYE and WU TANG to both release albums in the same year, which I'm hoping will finally determine who my favorite hip hop artist of all time is. Wu owns my youth, but Kanye has made a bullet grab for big Severian's heart)

Oxymoron has not aged well. Glad I caught Schoolboy and Rashad live, but it made me realize that Schoolboy Q really phoned that one in. He's a more skilled rapper and a more artistic mind than that album would have you believe. I'm glad it's been successful, but I hope he starts living up to his potential a bit more.

Mastermind has somehow tracks, but mostly sounds the epitome of the word "basic." The only truly shining moment? Provided by Kanye West. Rick Ross doesn't seem to be on the cutting edge of anything other than a butter knife.

Severian 04.27.2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
five albums that I've only listened to bits of, but can't seem to get into any. I must be missing something. I think Good Kid and Long Live A$AP has set my expectations really high on new releases.


Yeah, I'm drooling for some new A$AP. Either Rocky finally delivering on his promised solo projects, or the Mob cutting an official album. But I really hope they integrate Doley Bernays, and I hope Clams Casino continues to work with Rocky.

I also need some new Underachievers. Right now I'm really keeping my eye on them, as I think they will do great things. They should hurry the fuck up, though.

noisereductions 04.27.2014 03:42 PM

word, I feel like if we get A$AP Mob and the instrumental record this year (FINALLY) then I'll be set haha.

I don't even have 5 hip hop albums I love yet this year. Just:


Mobb Deep - The Infamous Mobb Deep
Spaceghostpurrp - Intoxxxicated

an evening with viewtiful 04.27.2014 04:10 PM

I guess I should note that I will be dissapointed, if that list doesn't change pretty drastically by the time the year is over.

I like Oxymoron but I don't love it, Mastermind is just easy to bump when in doubt.. the rest are legitimately solid though. MKL is fun but poignant,, Clivia Demo has some thoroughly addictive tracks and manages to carry itself with almost no guests, and Pinata can safely be called a new classic.

noisereductions 04.27.2014 04:55 PM

don't get mad y'all, but I'm not sure I love Gibbs' voice. :\

louder 04.27.2014 05:02 PM

Kanye is dropping an album later this year. Wayne too. and possibly Ghostface and even Jay Electronica. i'm not worried at all.

an evening with viewtiful 04.27.2014 05:55 PM

I can't see Carter V dropping before 2015... Cash Money seem to think that the marketing strategy of endless delays is still effective.

chocolate_ladyland 04.27.2014 06:54 PM

can we please reemphasize the RIP DJ Rashad part...

noisereductions 04.27.2014 07:36 PM

I just finished reading this:

 


...loved it.

Y'all know how much I love that 2001 era Blueprint/Stillmatic stuff, right? After reading this and pumping Murda Muzik, I feel like MM is up there too.

pad_023 04.27.2014 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor


Met him once, a really humble and cool guy, such a shame.

I picked this up for a fiver today, first hip-hop album I have bought in a few years, so good though.

Haven't found too many artists in the genre I like recently but Ratking and Young Fathers are both dope.

 

louder 04.28.2014 06:24 AM

new Ariana Grande single is good.. her music actually sounds pleasant to my ears, as opposed to most female pop singers these days.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uRhlzM7cC2c


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