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Anyone read The Fallen: Searching for the Missing Members of The Fall by Dave Simpson? In this apparently upsetting work, ex-Fall member after ex-Fall member after ex-Fall number describes life under Mark E. Smith as an abusive living hell.

Seeing that every day would indeed be an abusive living hell.

I like Paris. I dunno why. She's so ugly she's pretty to me..

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Again, though, his wife is amongst the 10 most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life...

I don't like girls like her, and in fact there's absolutely nothing exceptional about her. But there IS ... something special about her. I can't put my finger on it or in it.

this is pretty damn amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_Dk81f9fg

does MES actually like Patti Smith, though? doesn't seem like he would.

That video is awesome haha.

and she is dead nice person.. i met her a couple of years back.. she has "that voice" yknow!

Fall sound.

Man, I love "wings". I heard once it was about Mark E. Smith getting raped by a guard in jail and then going back and killing the officer who raped him.

Man, I love "cruisers creek". I heard this song was about the gas being left on in a party so everyone could get high and then someone lit a cigarette and the place blew up.

I was listening to This Nation's Saving Grace recently. The riff in Spoilt Victorian Child is one of my favourite riffs ever.

I have. It was fucking bleak. Left me feeling all anxious for about a week. I wouldn't recommend it really.

Who tells you what
To tape on your vid. chip
How do you know the progs you miss
Are worse than those you single out?
And what'll you do when the rental's up?
And your bottom rack is full of vids
Of programs you will nay look at
The way they act is, oh, sheer delight
Cardboard copyright
Make it right

Every Fall documentary I've seen ends up a bit like that. There isn't a happy ending to The Fall, in fact there isn't an ending at all.

there should have been an ending to them, in about 1983

no.

Man, I have a hard time ever figuring out what the hell any of the songs are "about". When i read the explanation of jawbone rifle something or other from hex enduction hour i was like wtf? Its tough for me to discern a narrative in fall tunes.

I think there's a definite sense in which any attempt to nail a canonical interpretation of a Fall song misses quite a lot of the point. I think MES is one of the few people who took that rule of poetry that says 'evoke in as many directions as you can' and ran with it.

I'd assumed ASP was taking the piss in the above-quoted post.