new Carter 5 snippet, featuring Mannie Fresh: http://instagram.com/p/nSN61LGP56/

wow, they need to drop this song ASAP.

Drilluminati 2 is fucking tight

LOL i almost forgot about Kendrick!!

first Big K.R.I.T. single off his upcoming album "Cadillactia": https://soundcloud.com/bigkrit/mt-olympus

dope. Krit got bars.

New KRIT album as well? Hot fucking damn!!

And where's you hear about a new GFK? I mean, it wouldn't be surprising. He's petty much a 1-2 albums every 18 months kind of dude, but I haven't heard of anything beyond the TWO Wu-Tang albums... One of which is maybe a no go if Rae doesn't get on board, and the other being the "unique" "work of art" thang that was originally going to be auctioned, and hence probably never heard by us, and was then promised to be GIVEN AWAY (the music, anyway) while a Kickstarter was launched for the one copy.

Btw: when the fuck will they be giving that shit away, God? Word is BOND, kid!

from what i've read Ghost has already finished working on "Blue & Cream: The Wally Era" aka Supreme Clientele 2.. just waiting for the label to start pushing it.

it should've actually dropped last summer, but for some reason it didn't. so i hope this summer we'll get luckier.

and yeah i can't wait for Cadillactia. that shit is gonna be hot.

So, Drake's bitch ass is taking shots at Jay Z?

I've read the lyrical content of their feud.... Drake doesn't have a prayer-- not a single chance in helll-- of uttering a single word that sounds eloquent or well phrased in a battle of wits with Jay, and Jigga has made that motherfuckin' clear. Haha, "soft as a lacrosse team."

And then (on Pitchfork of all places, which seems to favor Drake over the world, and suddenly loathe Jay) I see this article from the same day as the Raptors/Nets game:


Drake Caught Lint Rolling Pants Courtside at Raptors/Nets Playoff Game
April 23, 2014

Hahaha!! I don't know why, but the imagery here is perfect. Drake looks like a little bitch, and Jay looks like a generous benefactor being snotballed by an orphan he adopted out of the rough and tumble world of child television stardom... in Canada.

Kinda startin' to hate Drake a little. His music's all right, but I want to hurt him physically. I'm very protective of my rappers, and Jay is up there with Kanye and every member of the Clan for me.

they both keep taking shots at each other. but so far - ZZZZ. if they're really 'bout it, they should drop some serious diss records.

They're probably not that into it. Who cares about feuding musicians anyway? Kurt Loder, that's who. And that guy is a dick.

I still hope Jay Z redeems himself in the public eye before he goes out. I liked MCHG, but most didn't, and he's lost a lot of steam. He's still one of the best hip hop artists of all time, and I want to see him go out on a high note

i'd love to see Jay dropping another great album, but honestly i don't expect much from him at this point. he already gave us enough classic material anyway, so it's not a big deal to me.

"Ether" & "The Takeover" is compelling beef.

This Drake & Jay-Z bickering over just HOW rich J is... boring.

So is that Carter V cover art, so I hope it's not the final art.

haha, agree 100%.

his manager just confirmed that it isn't.. something is gonna happen soon tho.

If you don't care about feuding musicians then you miss out on MUCH of the history of hip hop!

that's well put. I had a friend not too long ago that said that "beef" in hip hop is stupid. And I"m like "uh, it's a genre that pretty much developed out of bragging, boasting and trying to one-up the other guy on the mic." Like, battle-rapping was pretty much the beginning of it all. SO while any actual violence between rappers is pretty stupid, the idea of it leading to verbal rivalries is def fun. When done well.

It's not that I don't care about it in theory, or in retrospect/historical context.

But I've lived through enough hip hop beefs to know that this one is as tame as a kitten. If lint-rolling pants has anything to do with it, it's probably not the hardest beef we've ever seen.

lulz

http://pitchfork.com/news/54993-kurt...eattle-police/

"Do you Kurt Cobain take Courtney Michelle Love to be your lawful shredded wife even when she's a bitch with zits and siphoning all yr money for doping and whoring.."

I feel like I need to give Mastermind another shot...

new Chance The Rapper track "I Am Very Very Lonely"
https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapp...ry-very-lonely

I would recommend it, but then again I am a Rick Ross/Maybach music fan.
Mastermind is lacking to be sure, but that's mostly because it doesn't depart from any of Ross' formulas. That said there really aren't any out and out bad songs on the thing, and almost all of them are fairly enjoyable.

Also, Thug Cry has a pretty nice Weezy Verse.

yeah I listened to "Thug Cry" last night. Pretty decent.

So I read that Acid Rap got a bootleg release last year that made it to some record stores.



Even if it's a boot, I really wish I could find a copy. It's so pretty looking. Or, Chance should get that shit pressed up officially.

This is true enough. The guest spots on the album in general are pretty solid.

I think I was expecting too much. Like Ross's MBDTF or Carter III. The title sounds so elemental and iconic. So I may have fucked myself with inflated expectations, before even hearing the record.

However, I must say that knowing what we know about Rick Ross, it's pretty hard to take him seriously sometimes. I find myself getting really tired of his "I'm rich/ I'm og / I've done so many things / Also, I'm rich / I have girls / I'm gagsta and hard" lyrical pool.

If we listened to artists based on how much money they had.. well- first of all, we'd never listen to anyone new, because we;d be confining ourselves to only uber-successful artists... but second, wouldn't we just listen to the rappers with real money? Rick Ross is a pauper compared to Kanye, Weezy, etc. and he would probably not even pop up as a distant star in Jay Z's orbit.

But I think I have taken media low blows too seriously when it comes to Ross. I loved him before 50 went after his cred. Then I started to view him as a fraud. But that doesn't matter either. I don't listen to musicians based on whether or not they've ever held government jobs... I don't listen based on how many bullet holes are in their sternum either.

So I don't mean to hate on the fat man. I just wish he'd expand his musical palette

If DRAKE has anything to do with it it is definitely pussy-soft shit. There is nothing hard about that loser.

Ty Dolla $ign's "Beach House" EP is so good. gotta add it to my top 5 albums of the year.

so now it's like..

1. Pinata
2. Clivia
3. Honest
4. Beach House
5. Z


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also, the new PARTYNEXTDOOR song "West District" is my fav song of the year so far - https://youtube.com/watch?v=UHjhvaRPebA

his debut that came out last year was already good, but now he's on another level to me. need him to drop a new project.

i'd cop it for sure. just listened to Acid Rap yesterday, such a great tape. i haven't listened to 10 Day (his first tape) in a while, it's almost as good as Acid Rap though. this kid has been hot from the start.

Thanks for the kind words. I try too learn what I can and add a little something now and then......one of the few "regular" threads we have going.

Hell Yeah, Lil Wayne Just Dropped "Believe Me" Ft. Drake, the First Single from 'Tha Carter V':
http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/lil-wa...ve-me-carter-v

thanks Bytor. the link was taken down, so here's another one: https://soundcloud.com/xvth/lil-wayn...-me-feat-drake

however it's not the final mix:

Final Mix Of "Believe Me" Coming In A Few Hours...Stay Tuned
https://twitter.com/welcomeOVO/statu...63163355910145

it's more like a Drake song with Wayne featured, which is a bad sign to me. decent song, but honestly i hope it won't be on the album.

a pretty good Drake song. Not a good lead single for a Carter album

Bro, I totally made a post about Ty when the EP first hits stores. I also like it a lot, but I'm almost weirded out by the fact that I do... It's clubby bitches n' hoes Rap&B... With tons of singing in ridiculously crooning voices about (no offense) some seriously stupid shit.

It's not like it's channel orange, or 808's & Heartbreak... It's not "pbr" or "alt," and it doesn't push any buttons or boundaries. It just sounds ill. Ill as all hell.
I don't think it's top five material for me, but I like it.

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Has anyone listened to Doppelgangaz or Smoke DZA yet? I'm starting to wonder why we even recommend albums if nobody ever tried anything new out. Hmph!

lol yeah his subject matter is ratchet. supposedly his album will have more content though:

"The album's going to be called Free TC, it's dedicated to my lil bro, all the homies in prison that's wrongfully imprisoned," Ty Dolla $ign said when asked about what he is currently working on. "It's like a lot of people that end up like that just end up getting twisted and washed so like this is basically dedicated to him and I'm going to use the money to get him the greatest lawyer."

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/i...collaborations

I have been thinking a lot in recent days about how TOTALLY fucking excited I am for The Carter V. Been listening to III and the mixtapes from that era (Dedication, muhfuhs!), and I know it would be unreal if Wayne finally hit us with the album we've been waiting for since 2009.

But THAT IS THE WORST LIL WAYNE COVER EVER (which is saying a lot, really), and if all he's going to do is feature the most obvious rapper out there right now, and go straight for clubs and radios, then Wayne will lose a lot of his significance as an artist.

For a while he was almost at Kanye level.... Maybe not, actually, but Eminem level for sure. The works still seems to think he is, but if this album is his last and isn't a fucking masterpiece, he's going to be a footnote in the story of hip hop. Seriously, two killer albums, and a handful of killer mixtapes, with a bunch of ok to terrible stuff scattered all around them? That's not even a run.

I love Wayne, but he was only the real deal for like two years. The rest of the time has been spent fuckin around, making fans wait for him to come outta comas.

I don't really think the song is going for clubs and radios. It sounds like a street single more than anything.

Also I don't know whether to be hyped or not. Lollipop was one of the weaker songs on what was a pretty good album and 6 foot 7 foot was a pretty good song on a weak album. The first single doesn't really tell much about his albums I guess.

that's a pretty good point louder.

The Rappers Wirh the Largest Vocabularies


Holy shit, this is awesome. I want this asshole's job!

Anyway, while some of my favorites appear lower on the scale than I would have thought, I think it's pretty rewarding to see that the top 25% is almost entirely taken up by Wu Tang Clan, and Wu members and affiliates (GFK, GZA, who came in second I think, RZA, Killah Priest, and Wu Tang Clan itself. If they had counted Wu solo projects along with Wu Tang Clan albums, Wu would have made up the entire top half of the goddamn chart.

Finally, some intellectual props given to the smartest group in hip hop.

Kanye was pretty far down. As was Jigga.

Props to Kool Keith!

As for MF DOOM being at a "Shakespearean" level? I love the guy, but who would have guessed? His verses, though all extremely awesome, all sound pretty much the same. Who would have thought that he was mixing it up so much all this time?

Honestly. I can't believe Lil Wayne ranked so low. The guy was goddamn scatological on his first 3 Carter albums.

Aesop Rock at #1 just kinda pisses me off.
I don't recall seeing Guru, Jeru the Damaja or even Biggie on the list, but I didn't get more than two or three minutes to look at it, and it's a little hard to make out the faces.

Anyway, there are some data flaws here. Trust me. Don't think that Aesop Rock is the most articulate and innovative rapper just because he reuses the fewest words. I've never heard him utter a full phrase that was as perfectly strung together, and exquisitely delivered as the seasons* lines from "Mr. Carter," or ... Well, pretty much all of the lyrics on Graduation, which I think is one of the most clever hip hop albums ever made.

Seriously... It may be simple, but this verse alone makes Lil Wayne a better rapper than Aesop will ever be.

* "Man, Man, I got Summer hatin' on me cause I'm hotter then the Sun
Got Spring hating on me cause I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cause I'm colder than y'all
And I would never, I would never, I would never Fall
I'm bein' hated by the seasons
So fuck y'all who hatin' for no reason"

Man I hope the link works, because this is extremely discussion worthy!!

my friend showed me that article yesterday. i'm actually not surprised about DOOM's placement, he said he often tries to use "weird" words because they get stuck in people's heads.

as for Kanye, i'm not surprised either. a lot of his lyrics are indeed far more clever than most rappers', but they're pretty simple and straight-forward.

i'm glad to see Wu at the top. those dudes really got the whole package.

was expecting Jay to be higher though.

i love Lil Wayne and all sometimes, but his shit can be straight up retarted. like a 13 yr old being as clever as he can be. its not as 'non sequitur' as he would like it to be. just somehow taking the meaning of the word 'pun' and stretching it out to IQ questioning limitations. if that's his game then cool.

he's ok i guess, but something like that verse that Severian posted is just dumb as fug.

Edit: the guy could be much weirder and cooler if he didn't pun the shit out of everything. then add on that little scream he has now. he would be supreme.

new song is tight though.

how is Talib not higher?