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Bytor Peltor 03.29.2019 08:52 AM

I guess it all depends if you know what to look for? I started “prophesing” / asking questions two years into the investigation......not at the beginning!

“If collusion was illegal......why would Muller need to keep investigating???”

Me understanding and explaining the scope and responsibilities that Mueller held and the fact he was acting outside that scope.

Mueller not producing evidence requested by a Judge when Russian companies demanded to see the evidence against them.

Understanding the difference between collusion (not a crime) and conspiracy (impeachable).

The basic understanding that an innocent man proclaiming his innocence is in no way an obstruction of justice.

I could go on, but it doesn’t matter. Sure, I made a few assumptions, but those assumptions were based on my limited knowledge of Investigations and how the judicial process works. Multiple times I said I might be wrong and it would all be okay if I was because my statements / assumptions were based on a process and not wishful thinking.

You will continue to see things the way you want, which has been clear in all of your replies......but like I said, I was never trying to change your mind!

That’s all for now, packing up the van and headed to Houston to pick up my wife, then to far North Texas to see “Sweet Eileen In Abilene”

......everyone have a great weekend!!!


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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i concur with you that skuj was superguilty of wishful thinking and emotionally attached to outcomes he wanted

but while you had a cooler disposition, you were also prophesizing outcomes and claimed knowledge of facts nobody but the investigators had at the time

the fact that your prediction was more correct than skuj’s does not make your wishful thinking less wishful or your reasoning less flawed. it was just a better guess.

no?

anywyay i see it that way, as *only now we know.* not that it matters one iota, lol. it’s not like i’m handing out prizes.

ps- but i recall there was the matter of a bet...


Derek 03.29.2019 04:09 PM

IN BIDEN NEWS: https://www.thecut.com/amp/2019/03/a...mpression=true

Are you guys ready for a new article like this every week if he announces he's running? There's no way he won't have to answer for it.

!@#$%! 03.29.2019 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
IN BIDEN NEWS: https://www.thecut.com/amp/2019/03/a...mpression=true

Are you guys ready for a new article like this every week if he announces he's running? There's no way he won't have to answer for it.

lmfao

the democratic circular firing squad continues

“trump 2020” i guess... :(

!@#$%! 03.29.2019 04:13 PM

wasn’t that how may got to be PM? her opponents killed each other? lololo

Derek 03.29.2019 04:20 PM

Feel the Bern bro

Bernie wouldn't kiss and touch little girls, he would put his hand on their shoulder in a patronly manner and help them dream of not getting shot at school and then bankrupting their family through the subsequent medical costs!

tesla69 03.29.2019 04:45 PM

BREAKING: A high-level source tells me it was Brennan who insisted that the unverified and fake Steele dossier be included in the Intelligence Report... Brennan should be asked to testify under oath in Congress ASAP.
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) March 27, 2019

Derek 03.29.2019 04:53 PM

I hope Rand Paul's neighbour doesn't regret socking him in the face

tesla69 03.29.2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Yeah free him for the breaching bail thing and lock him up for the raping thing instead.


right. state press = truthful. I forget! He should have stuck around in order to be tortured by the Brits and US.

WikiLeaks boss Julian Assange said on Friday that text messages in the possession of the Swedish government prove that rape allegations against him are a set up.
“There are intercepted SMS messages between the women and each other and their friends that I'm told represents a set up,” Assange, who spoke from Suffolk, UK, said on ABC's Good Morning America. “Those SMS messages the Swedish prosecutor has refused to release and in fact stated that my lawyer, who was shown the messages by the police, is gagged from speaking about them.”

I guess Chelsea Manning is still locked up?

Derek 03.29.2019 05:11 PM

And free my angel Chelsea Manning yes

tesla69 03.29.2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
I hope Rand Paul's neighbour doesn't regret socking him in the face





it was an expensive sucker punch!
U.S. Sen. Rand Paul was awarded more than $580,000 in damages and medical expenses on Wednesday in his lawsuit against the neighbor who tackled him and broke several of his ribs in a dispute over lawn maintenance.

I was curious to find out why - it sounds like crazy neighbor syndrome to me.

Boucher told the jury that he attacked Paul after watching the senator begin forming a brush pile near their property line.
The day before the attack, Boucher said, he [Boucher] had burned another brush pile that Paul had created near the boundary. He[Boucher] doused that pile with gasoline and set it on fire, Boucher said. An explosion burned his face, neck and arms, and Boucher said he was still in severe pain when he attacked Paul the next day. Boucher testified he had hauled away previous brush piles accumulated by Paul without asking the senator.
Boucher testified that he tried to talk to Paul about his lawn maintenance concerns, but was rebuffed. Paul maintained in his testimony that he kept any brush pile on his own property.

Skuj 03.30.2019 12:41 AM

IDK WTF is happening, but I keep seeing my name. I suspect tesla and Bytor are having a field day post Mueller. (I don't blame them!! I'll keep them on ignore.)

I'll say it: I am completely baffled and extremely disappointed that Mueller had "no opinion" on Obstruction Of Justice. Wasn't it his fucking job to form an opinion, one way or the other?

I also will never understand the Collusion conclusion, given everything that we know.

But one thing is clear to me: Mueller must speak, and that report must be made public. I don't trust Barr to tell us everything that we should know.

Carry on with your celebrations!!

ilduclo 03.30.2019 02:34 PM

Don Trimp's nominee for the Federal Reserve Board

 


“He does not have the intellectual gravitas for this important job,” Greg Mankiw, a Harvard professor who was chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers under President George W. Bush wrote. “It is time for senators to do their job. Mr. Moore should not be confirmed.”

.... owes 75K$ back taxes

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-document-says

.......held in contempt of court over 300k$ debt to ex wife

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...P=share_btn_tw

"we only hire the BEST people"

Bytor Peltor 03.31.2019 09:23 PM

A field day?

We already knew the outcome!!!

Regarding Mueller: it was NEVER his job or responsibility to exonerate President Trump. Mueller is a Prosecutor and his job and sole responsibility is to examine evidence to see if Federal Laws were broken.

PERIOD - end of story!!!



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Originally Posted by Skuj
IDK WTF is happening, but I keep seeing my name. I suspect tesla and Bytor are having a field day post Mueller. (I don't blame them!! I'll keep them on ignore.)

I'll say it: I am completely baffled and extremely disappointed that Mueller had "no opinion" on Obstruction Of Justice. Wasn't it his fucking job to form an opinion, one way or the other?

I also will never understand the Collusion conclusion, given everything that we know.

But one thing is clear to me: Mueller must speak, and that report must be made public. I don't trust Barr to tell us everything that we should know.

Carry on with your celebrations!!


Bytor Peltor 04.01.2019 09:40 AM

TRUMP TWEET

“Now that the long awaited Mueller Report conclusions have been released, most Democrats and others have gone back to the pre-Witch Hunt phase of their lives before Collusion Delusion took over. Others are pretending that their former hero, Bob Mueller, no longer exists!”

!@#$%! 04.01.2019 09:42 AM

reality tv clown

!@#$%! 04.01.2019 09:49 AM

White House whistleblower says 25 security clearance denials were reversed during Trump administration

A White House whistleblower told lawmakers that more than two dozen denials for security clearances have been overturned during the Trump administration, calling Congress her “last hope” for addressing what she considers improper conduct that has left the nation’s secrets exposed.

Tricia Newbold, a longtime White House security adviser, told the House Oversight and Reform Committee that she and her colleagues issued “dozens” of denials for security clearance applications that were later approved despite their concerns about blackmail, foreign influence or other red flags, according to panel documents released Monday.

Newbold, an 18-year veteran of the security clearance process who has served under both Republican and Democratic presidents, said she warned her superiors that clearances “were not always adjudicated in the best interest of national security” — and was retaliated against for doing so.

“I would not be doing a service to myself, my country, or my children if I sat back knowing that the issues that we have could impact national security,” Newbold told the committee, according to a panel document summarizing her allegations.

Newbold added: “I feel that right now this is my last hope to really bring the integrity back into our office.”

etc.

ilduclo 04.01.2019 12:12 PM

Mitch gonna change the rules to shove thru Trimp judges

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitch...b0bc0dacaa2800

Skuj 04.01.2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
White House whistleblower says 25 security clearance denials were reversed during Trump administration

A White House whistleblower told lawmakers that more than two dozen denials for security clearances have been overturned during the Trump administration, calling Congress her “last hope” for addressing what she considers improper conduct that has left the nation’s secrets exposed.

Tricia Newbold, a longtime White House security adviser, told the House Oversight and Reform Committee that she and her colleagues issued “dozens” of denials for security clearance applications that were later approved despite their concerns about blackmail, foreign influence or other red flags, according to panel documents released Monday.

Newbold, an 18-year veteran of the security clearance process who has served under both Republican and Democratic presidents, said she warned her superiors that clearances “were not always adjudicated in the best interest of national security” — and was retaliated against for doing so.

“I would not be doing a service to myself, my country, or my children if I sat back knowing that the issues that we have could impact national security,” Newbold told the committee, according to a panel document summarizing her allegations.

Newbold added: “I feel that right now this is my last hope to really bring the integrity back into our office.”

etc.



"She's an Obama appointee" in 3......2......1.....

Skuj 04.01.2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
Mitch gonna change the rules to shove thru Trimp judges

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitch...b0bc0dacaa2800


I still think McConnell is one of the worst human beings ever.

And Ruth ain't gonna make it to 2021. We'll be doing that again.

ilduclo 04.01.2019 06:12 PM

yeah, WTF was she thinking, she's hardly invincible. If she'd retired midterm O 1 or O2, I don't think Republans would have been able to stop a Merrick or other.

Bytor Peltor 04.02.2019 04:19 AM

 

ilduclo 04.02.2019 05:47 PM

 


"They super didn’t.
91 Billion was the estimated DAMAGE.
Puerto Rico is still WAITING for most of their allocated relief funds, while our president lies to himself and lies to you."

--LM Miranda

ilduclo 04.03.2019 12:47 PM

Billo:

“The progressive wing, the far-left wing of the Democratic Party, doesn’t want any part of Joe Biden, for a number of reasons. Number one, he’s white. They don’t want a white candidate if they can get a person of color. Number two, he’s a capitalist. Whoa! They don’t want that. This is the far-left progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Number three, he’s not politically correct. He says stuff like, ‘Oh, Vice President Pence is a good guy,’ and they went wild because Pence is a very religious man who doesn’t believe in gay marriage,” O’Reilly said.

He continued, “So you had to derail Joe Biden, now how could you derail him? He’s got a pretty good reputation within the Democratic Party. President Obama likes him. Well, you’ve got to bring out the playbook. And what does the playbook say? You want to attack somebody and destroy them? ‘MeToo, MeToo.’”

Skuj 04.03.2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
 


"They super didn’t.
91 Billion was the estimated DAMAGE.
Puerto Rico is still WAITING for most of their allocated relief funds, while our president lies to himself and lies to you."

--LM Miranda


Even after all we have been through since Jan 2017, I had to wonder if that was actually fake. He cannot be that stupid and ignorant, can he? (And wtf is a "pol"?)

Skuj 04.03.2019 04:54 PM

"That country....."

"Take from the USA....."

Fucking mind boggling!! I'd like to think that all this will cause Florida to not go Trump's way. But, I will never comprehend Florida.

!@#$%! 04.03.2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Even after all we have been through since Jan 2017, I had to wonder if that was actually fake. He cannot be that stupid and ignorant, can he? (And wtf is a "pol"?)


he’s stupid and ignorant, but a pol is a pol

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pol

Bytor Peltor 04.03.2019 06:22 PM

And So It Begins

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
If they haven’t already done so, over the next 7-10 days we all have a front row seat to the Democrats blowing any shot at 2020......transparency???


Bytor Peltor 04.04.2019 04:38 AM

Vice President Joe Biden: "I said, 'You're not getting the billion.' I'm going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: 'I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money,'" Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

Bank records show that Hunter Biden's American company Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC regularly received money in its account (usually more than 166 000 dollars per month) from Burisma from spring 2014 to autumn 2015 of the year - exactly during the period when Vice President Biden was chief US official involved in Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.

Is it coincidence or collusion that Vice President Joe Biden spent 36 Hours In Ukraine in April 2014?

Before you answer that question......just a reminder that “The Black Ledger” was the beginning of the Steele Dossier:

A member of the Ukrainian parliament accused in his home country of interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election was identified in congressional testimony in October as a source for opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

!@#$%! 04.04.2019 07:27 AM

blah blah gibberish

just show us porn don’s tax returns

Skuj 04.04.2019 04:32 PM

Show us the fucking Mueller report!!! It seems that some on Team Mueller do not think that Barr's summary painted a very accurate picture.

Skuj 04.04.2019 06:11 PM

Did you guys see what Trump said about wind energy / noise?

It's so fucking moronic that I cannot post it here.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.04.2019 07:38 PM

^ It's insane. He thinks wind power causes cancer but is fully in support of reviving the coal industry to its former glory. Don't forget how us damaging our earth and ridding it of our natural resources is all just a big hoax either. I could kill him.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.04.2019 07:40 PM

Also apparently he's turning over the inspections of pork products over to the pork industry and taking it out of government regulation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...9e 6d74952583

This dude can get fucked. I hate this Libertarian "let the free market" take care of it nonsense. There are government regulations in place to keep us safe and he wants to rid them all so he can build his dumb wall, line his pockets, line his friends' pockets, and take a crap in a golden toilet on the moon.

Get fucked, dump.

Skuj 04.04.2019 07:43 PM

You guys gonna vote next time?

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.04.2019 07:51 PM

Oh also also, Chelsea Manning just got out of solitary confinement

Fuck yes

EDIT: I've voted in every election since I was 18. Democrat always.

choc e-Claire 04.04.2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
You guys gonna vote next time?

I can't vote in your elections, or my own - there's one next month, but I'm only 17, so unfortunately I won't be able to vote our government out.

!@#$%! 04.04.2019 08:00 PM

porn don’s taxes

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.05.2019 01:36 AM

I want Bernie in 2020 so badly. He might be the only dude who even stands a chance.

Fuck off, Beto. Mr. Skateboarder punk band hacker pants. Why dont you go snowboardin with Kerry you left leaning centrist pile of dung

(would still vote for ya fam if you won primaries, im just joshing)

demonrail666 04.05.2019 02:23 AM

How do people see the Biden stuff affecting things? Will he ride it out? I made him frontrunner on the strength that the more progressive candidates will all steal votes off one another. But what if Biden drops out?

_tunic_ 04.05.2019 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Did you guys see what Trump said about wind energy / noise?

It's so fucking moronic that I cannot post it here.





so why is Trump against wind energy? the answer is simple:






GOLF!




sorry if I'm posting stuff you already know, if you don't then click the link and note the date: 2012. My Trump news is always one day old as I get it from the Daily Show which is always yesterday's episode.


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