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Skuj 04.07.2019 07:51 PM

The Trump Era will be over, one day. Maybe 2021. Maybe 2025, good fucking gawd.

But, it will end.

One day.

tw2113 04.07.2019 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
The Trump Era will be over, one day. Maybe 2021. Maybe 2025, good fucking gawd.

But, it will end.

One day.





Replaced with what? A continuation? An alternative? Extra lube? Lube for once?

!@#$%! 04.07.2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Replaced with what? A continuation? An alternative? Extra lube? Lube for once?

o man i miss lube

rasps are too cruel

Skuj 04.07.2019 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw2113
Replaced with what? A continuation? An alternative? Extra lube? Lube for once?


Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, will ever reach the lows that we presently find ourselves in. America will recover and learn from this dark episode.

!@#$%! 04.08.2019 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
"papers" LOL.

read a little more, he asked her to resigned, she did, so, fired really

tesla69 04.08.2019 06:57 AM

You children worship Trump! You do nothing but talk and think about him constantly!

tesla69 04.08.2019 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, will ever reach the lows that we presently find ourselves in. America will recover and learn from this dark episode.



Hey snowflakes, y'all need to find a new industry. Trump derangement syndrome is petering out.

h8kurdt 04.08.2019 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
You children worship Trump! You do nothing but talk and think about him constantly!


Fancy talking about Trump on a thread about him.

ilduclo 04.08.2019 07:32 AM

“Kirstjen Nielsen, whose legacy will be the most heartless and lawbreaking immigration policy this nation has known in at least 70 years, wasn’t heartless and lawbreaky enough for Donald Trump, who accepted her resignation Sunday evening so he can move immigration policy in “a tougher direction.”

Hard to imagine what kinds of border moves this foretells. Gotta treat those people worse. Trump thinks they’re all a bunch of criminals anyway, down to the 3-year olds, so I take it what we’ve seen to this point has been pussy-footing.”


https://www.thedailybeast.com/kirstj...trump?ref=home

!@#$%! 04.08.2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Fancy talking about Trump on a thread about him.

you children :D

!@#$%! 04.08.2019 11:58 AM

this was nielsen before she started working for trump

 



and this is after

 



oh yeah, evil takes a toll

 


notice the tumors and splotches erupting like a cronenberg movie

tesla69 04.08.2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Fancy talking about Trump on a thread about him.


I note the thread was originally about his candidacy, and he won the race!

but these are posters who loathe him, supposedly, but they go on and on most every day against him usually some inanity revolving around some sexual thing. They certainly aren't out organizing or doing the real work of politics posting their daily ugly-meme.

I see no reason why Trump won't win again unless the dirty tricks teams do a deep fake video of the pissing incident or some thing. They can't touch him through that weasel Kushner.

I really believe, in a gross simplification, that at this point the Dems are the Mexican Cartel's party. The Dems's are paid to ensure the Cartel's #1 product, human trafficking, is not blocked. That to me is the only explanation for why they are so insanely upset about stopping illegal entry in my country. corporate media is used to trigger a small army of social-media indoctrinated snowflakes who don't understand many of the children coming across the border are being trafficked or are repeaters.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.08.2019 10:49 PM

^ he's the president. of course we're gonna talk about him.

Skuj 04.09.2019 12:05 AM

So lemme get this straight: We are now debating/arguing about why we are talking about Trump when a) he is the fucking (incompetent, ignorant, moronic) POTUS, and b) this thread is about him?

Is this forum going insane?

ilduclo 04.09.2019 12:49 PM

The Trimp purge continues

Homeland Security Secy, deputy secy, 2 undersecys, ss director, fema director, ice director, general counsel, cfo, cpo, customs commissioner.

!@#$%! 04.09.2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
The Trimp purge continues

Homeland Security Secy, deputy secy, 2 undersecys, ss director, fema director, ice director, general counsel, cfo, cpo, customs commissioner.

he should just purge himself and spare us all

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.10.2019 01:10 AM


 


#GravelGang
#Gravelanche2020

Dr. Eugene Felikson 04.10.2019 01:11 AM

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Derek 04.10.2019 11:51 PM

I heartily endorse Mike Gravel.

!@#$%! 04.11.2019 06:23 AM

Why Does Trump Want to Debase the Fed?
The tax cut fizzled; send in the clowns!

By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist

April 8, 2019

As far as I know, the Federal Reserve — the world’s most important economic policy institution — doesn’t have an anthem. But if it were to adopt one now, the choice would be obvious: “Send In the Clowns.”

You see, the Fed’s governing board currently has two vacancies, and Donald Trump has proposed filling those vacancies with ludicrous hacks. If he succeeds, one of our few remaining havens of serious, nonpartisan policymaking will be on its way toward becoming as corrupt and dysfunctional as the rest of the Trump administration.

Stephen Moore and Herman Cain are, of course, completely unqualified — I say “of course” because their lack of qualifications is, paradoxically, a key qualification not just for Trump but for the G.O.P. in general.

There are plenty of genuine monetary experts with conservative political leanings, some of them quite partisan. But modern Republicans have shown consistent disdain for such experts, perhaps because of a sense that anyone with real expertise or an independent reputation might occasionally be tempted to take a stand on principle.

There’s no risk that either Moore or Cain will ever take such a stand. In fact, what seems to have recommended both men to Trump was their evident willingness to completely reverse their policy views when politically expedient.

Both were hard-money men during the Obama years, demanding higher interest rates despite very high unemployment. Both have now taken to berating the Fed for failing to print more money in the face of low unemployment — because that’s what Trump wants.

That said, there’s a difference between the two men.

I wrote about Moore a couple of weeks ago, noting that he has long been a prominent fixture in the conservative movement; he is, basically, a classic right-wing hack who tries (incompetently) to impersonate an economic expert. Cain, on the other hand, is a spam king whose business model involves making his email list available to direct marketers.

Put it this way: In recent years Moore has been out there predicting magical results from tax cuts, putting out fake economic numbers, and giving speeches to FreedomFest. At the same time, Cain has been offering a platform for peddlers of get-rich schemes and cures for erectile dysfunction. So it says something about what Trump wants that he apparently sees the two men as equally valuable allies.

What does Trump want? His attempted beclowning of the Fed follows, I’d argue, from the fact that his one major legislative success, the 2017 tax cut — which he predicted would be “rocket fuel” for the economy — has turned out to be a big fizzle, economically and, especially, politically.

It’s true that U.S. economic growth got a bump for two quarters last year, and Trumpists are still pretending to believe that we’ll have great growth for a decade. But at this point last year’s growth is looking like a brief and rapidly fading sugar high.

Meanwhile, the tax cut remains unpopular, partly because few people perceived personal benefits, partly because voters appear to be less concerned about paying too much than with the sense that the rich — the prime beneficiaries of the Trump cut — are paying too little.

Some leaders might see such disappointments as reasons to make a course correction. But this is Trump: When the going gets tough, he blames someone else. Everything would have been great, he insists, if the Fed hadn’t thwarted his plans.

There’s a good argument to be made that the Fed misjudged the economy’s strength, that it raised interest rates too fast and that the economy would be doing somewhat better if it hadn’t. In fact, it’s an argument I agree with.

But that’s not what Trump is saying. He wants the Fed to act as if we were still in a deep depression; he wants it both to cut rates and to resume the emergency policies it pursued — and he denounced — when we had more than twice as much unemployment as we do today. This would, he insists, turn the economy into the “rocket ship” he originally promised.

You don’t have to be a gold bug or even an inflation hawk to see these demands as deeply irresponsible. Indeed, they sound a lot like the “macroeconomic populism” that has repeatedly led to economic disaster in Latin America, with Venezuela the latest example.

Running the printing presses to fight a depression, as the Fed did after the financial crisis, is prudent and sensible; running them because you refuse to accept the reality that your policies aren’t delivering an economic miracle is different, and always ends badly.

Now, even putting both Moore and Cain on the Fed board probably wouldn’t be enough to push America over the monetary edge. And so far, markets don’t seem worried about the potential for runaway inflation.

But maybe investors should be worried, at least a bit, by the spectacle of a president who would rather appoint hacks and debase the Fed’s integrity than admit that his policies aren’t working as promised. U.S. policymaking is looking ever more like that of a corrupt third-world regime. And that is bound, sooner or later, to have consequences.

ilduclo 04.11.2019 07:24 AM

Gravel is just a distraction. Another white knight, like Sanders...

And certainly seems like a great path to lose 2o2o, if he runs as an independent. He’ll never get the nom, so that’s the only way forward for him.

You heard it here first.

Bytor Peltor 04.11.2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
blah blah gibberish


Soooooo, I ask if President Obama sending Vice President Biden to the Ukraine on a 36 hour trip was coincidence or collusion and you call it gibberish?

Typical and expected.


Soooooo, word is an investigation may soon be focusing on then President Obama NOT USING our spy agencies: NSA, CIA, FBI or the DOJ and went outside the chain of command to use the British spy agency......GCHQ

WHY?

For surveillance on Candidate Trump and President Elect Trump.


Evidently President Obama did so as to be undetected......the same reason Hillary Clinton set up a server in a janitors closet.

Soooooo, which one of you are going to be foolish enough to Bla Bla Bla colluding against a Presidential candidate?

Months and months of pathetic takes and getting everything completely WRONG!

Now we know how and why President Obama was able to declare that the Trump campaign had done nothing wrong......before he left office......before a dime was spent on the Mueller investigation.

This is getting so good!!!

Skuj 04.11.2019 09:58 AM

Wow, I'm really disappointed with Barr. He cannot be trusted. He side-stepped questions regarding what Trump has seen of the Mueller report. His summary is a crime. Clearly, he is a Trump stooge.

Bytor Peltor 04.13.2019 03:27 AM

Our good friend Skuj raises his head out of his hole in the sand to claim Barr is a TRUMP stooge : )

Someone do Skuj a solid and tell him to disconnect his computer because an implosion is coming this next week and I’m afraid he can’t handle it. Hell, by all the silence in this thread over the past couple of days, none of you can handle it!

But I’ve been saying all along that the majority of you can’t handle the TRUTH!

Sadly, you wouldn’t recognize the TRUTH if it slammed you upside your head. WHY......because the majority of you could care less about the TRUTH. You live in a fantasy land that’s full of lies.

But the TRUTH marches on!!!

Pelosi Vomit: "How very, very dismaying and disappointing that the chief law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails,"

Going off the rails......of the crazy train??

Oh dear Pelosi Vomit, what crazy thing did Barr say?

Barr: "I think spying did occur. The question is whether it was adequately predicated."

The TRUTH is, the Democrats don’t want anyone exploring wether the surveillance was PREDICATED.

Not one Democrat is denying that surveillance occurred!

Soooooo why are the Democrats hot and bothered about Attorney General Barr wanting to explore to see if PREDICATE was there?

Legal PREDICATE
Factual PREDICATE

TRUTH is, one of those are REQUIRED to justify the FISA Court issuing FISA Warrants.

Another TRUTH......surveilling without proper warrants is SPYING!!!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Wow, I'm really disappointed with Barr. He cannot be trusted. He side-stepped questions regarding what Trump has seen of the Mueller report. His summary is a crime. Clearly, he is a Trump stooge.


!@#$%! 04.13.2019 08:13 AM

fox vomit

ilduclo 04.13.2019 08:45 AM

His threats are illegal actions to punish both people from another party and people who are claiming, under law, political asylum. It’s illegal and reeks of the worst abuses the immigration system has done since the 1950’s.

choc e-Claire 04.14.2019 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
(By the way, I usually refer to transsexuals, such as Bruce Jenner, by their born names and pronouns, but I make an exception for Chelsea Manning, as her heroism has proven that she truly has a pair of ovaries!).


So, unless you actively like the person, you'll be an inconsiderate dickwad? Real mature of you, Rob.

choc e-Claire 04.14.2019 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I do thank you ever so much for your kindly insightful response.

I'm not going to be kind about this. Considering that (outside of physical violence) deliberately misgendering someone is about the worst thing you can do to a transgender person, it's bullshit, and more than a little insulting, that you try to say 'oh but I make an exception for Chelsea Manning'.

Are you going to start using male pronouns for me now? After all, it's what you do.

Bytor Peltor 04.14.2019 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
What I'm really saying here is that the truth is pouring out now like never before, so let's stop punishing the truth-tellers.


One easy sign the TRUTH is coming......celebrities like Robert De Niro start flapping the lips, trying to get out ahead of it:

"But I think there's going to be a lot of mass demonstrations, a lot of protests if this is not resolved. We have to know what went on. We have to know. The handwriting's on the wall,"

Why is it that the Democrats only option is “mass demonstrations?”

Democrats are just too ignorant to understand that President Donald Trump is the only thing that will prevent their Muslim President and Former First Lady from going to prison......he will be their Cheeto Savior!!!

!@#$%! 04.14.2019 06:33 AM

@chocky— kid, please don’t give the irrelevant skunk the serious treatment. it’s sunday morning here, which means he’s likely drowning in listerine and delusions of self-importance. #1 rule of the internet is don’t feed the trolls. yes, you’ve been reasoning with the demented without knowing. now you know.

so—just deal with the pest accordingly and squash it.

 

choc e-Claire 04.15.2019 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
choc e-Claire:

I apologize for what I said above, Ma'am. I just got caught up in the heat of the argument. From now on I shall address you in the feminine.

Hey Rob,

That was a little bit out of line on my part (inb4 Symbols makes a jab about the left of today). I appreciate your apology and I'll try to be less provocable in future.

---

Anyway, back to the thread at hand: remember Trump and Kim's Freudian argument about 'nuclear buttons'? My children will laugh at this era.

Bytor Peltor 04.15.2019 04:57 AM

Cher Reverses Course On Mass Immigration

ilduclo 04.15.2019 08:28 AM

New Trimp air pollution model. If it don’t kill ya right off, it’s Ok.



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/top...ricans-health/

This guy:

 

Derek 04.15.2019 08:49 AM

Why are some still so hung up on what names and pronouns people want to be called? Like, what is so hard about it other than ignorance towards other people? A few of you on here do this maliciously though and I hope a trans cutie punches you in the mouth someday. I hate Caitlyn Jenner but I'd still give her the dignity of using the correct name and gender.

Pete Buttchug (now here's someone I'll never use the real name of), young "millenial" wunderkind, announced he's running. Don't believe the hype, he has no history of activism nor any history of even caring about inequality. I'm sick of these phonies. As if we are going to get a fairer world from a McKinsey consultant whose best idea was an app that ran the sewers of the town he was mayor for. I actually fear that these suits who can adopt millenial leftist speak will slither through.

h8kurdt 04.15.2019 08:51 AM

Well that was a depressing read. Swear we're going backwards. Not just the U.S but everywhere. From Bolsano now pulling all funding for scientific work, to the cluster fuck that's happening over here in the UK.

!@#$%! 04.15.2019 09:15 AM

haha ha i am just reading at watching excerpts of nancy pelosi's 60 minutes interview from last night

When asked how she would describe Trump, Pelosi’s answer was blunt.

“I think that he describes himself on a daily basis,” she said, noting that Trump is aware “he should not be president."

"But I respect the office he holds and he’s not worth the trouble of saying, ‘You’re so horrible we can’t work together.’ No, we need to work together.”


haaaa haaaa haaa haaaa!

it's much better on video

Derek 04.15.2019 09:31 AM

What could they possibly work on with him that wouldn't be horrible? Bipartisanship is a sham. They should be spending more time condemning everything about him and working to undo the mess that people like her have created which led to this situation (though we all know Pelosi, Schumer et al only want things to go back to the status quo).

!@#$%! 04.15.2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek
What could they possibly work on with him that wouldn't be horrible? Bipartisanship is a sham. They should be spending more time condemning everything about him and working to undo the mess that people like her have created which led to this situation (though we all know Pelosi, Schumer et al only want things to go back to the status quo).

the status quo is the existing state of affairs. you can keep it, or you can change it, but you can't "go back" to it, because it's what is. you're already there.

the status quo of the american political duopoly is that there is very little bipartisan legislation. e.g., the trump tax giveaway to the rich had 0 democratic votes. obamacare which was based on a republican health plan had 0 republican votes.

the politics of mutual destruction that you're asking for right there, that's the status quo. bickering and pandering to the base and permanent paralysis.

but fortunately there are exceptions to that state of things every now and then. the most recent one was the criminal justice bill getting passed last december with broad bipartisan support. groups from left and right and center were in favor. cleared both houses of congress and the horrible orange blob signed it.

with a population of about 2 million inmates in this country, these reforms may not be all one could wish for in the rehabilitation of criminals and support of their families, but they are desperately needed and a significant progress. in policy terms they move away from decades of "tough on crime" legislation that only have brought disaster to communities everywhere.

so... yeah. more bipartisanship please. even if the horrible one signs it, real people have real problems that need urgent attention.

thank fuck for grownups in politics.

Skuj 04.15.2019 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Why are some still so hung up on what names and pronouns people want to be called? Like, what is so hard about it other than ignorance towards other people? A few of you on here do this maliciously though and I hope a trans cutie punches you in the mouth someday. I hate Caitlyn Jenner but I'd still give her the dignity of using the correct name and gender.

Pete Buttchug (now here's someone I'll never use the real name of), young "millenial" wunderkind, announced he's running. Don't believe the hype, he has no history of activism nor any history of even caring about inequality. I'm sick of these phonies. As if we are going to get a fairer world from a McKinsey consultant whose best idea was an app that ran the sewers of the town he was mayor for. I actually fear that these suits who can adopt millenial leftist speak will slither through.



You do realize how ironic this post is, right? (Compare paragraph 1 with the start of paragraph 2.)

Skuj 04.15.2019 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Well that was a depressing read. Swear we're going backwards. Not just the U.S but everywhere. From Bolsano now pulling all funding for scientific work, to the cluster fuck that's happening over here in the UK.


Yes, the whole fucking world has tilted in the wrong direction. I pray that things right themselves (to the left) again in my lifetime.

(I fully expect Andrew Scheer to be the next Canadian PM.....sigh.....)


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