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ilduclo 09.22.2019 11:02 AM

Trimp Defenderz GO!!

 

Bytor Peltor 09.23.2019 09:46 PM

Nothing like seeing American Lawyer Jeffrey Toobin crying on the CNN saying he was “scandalized” by President Trump using a foreign power to help investigate a private citizen for political gain......what does he think Obama, Hillary & Bill we’re doing to Trump in 2016?

Speaking of the current said citizen: Hunter Biden retained a Fusion GPS client to prepare a report giving the corrupt Ukrainian company Burisma on whose board he sat a clean bill of health for investors......now isn’t this special : )

!@#$%! 09.24.2019 05:59 AM

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mental feces

 

Bytor Peltor 09.24.2019 04:24 PM

Pelosi Vomit: The action of the Trump the actions of the Trump presidency reveals dishonorable fact of the President's betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security and betrayal of the integrity of our elections.

!@#$%! 09.24.2019 04:49 PM

bytor vomit:

 

Bytor Peltor 09.24.2019 08:20 PM

Giuliani pursued shadow Ukraine agenda as key foreign policy officials were sidelined

Giuliani Goes Nuclear, Threatens To Release Incriminating Evidence On Biden

The Looks Like It’s Going To Get Good
“The former New York City Mayor went nuclear on Monday when he tweeted that Ukraine had paid Hunter $3 million in laundered money. According to Giuliani, the Obama/Biden administration looked the other way.”

Bytor Peltor 09.25.2019 11:02 AM

The DEMS are tripping all over themselves......after a transcript douses "quid pro quo" as impeachment basis, Democrats are shifting to solicitation of foreign aid to campaign in violation of FEC laws, arguing Biden announced candidacy 3 months before Trump asked Ukraine to help investigate Biden and his son.

HOWEVER, is it possible the DEMS forgot that three of their own sent a signed letter requesting the Ukraine resume investigation in May 2018 or aid would be withheld???

The three DEMS with their John Hancock’s on said letter: durbin, menedez and leahy

!@#$%! 09.25.2019 11:22 AM

lmao @ the alt-right troll

he really chugged that kool-aid

h8kurdt 09.25.2019 03:55 PM

You are aware that two wrongs don't make a right, Bytor? Trump asking a foreign government for dirt on a political rival is illegal. You get that right?

!@#$%! 09.25.2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You are aware that two wrongs don't make a right, Bytor? Trump asking a foreign government for dirt on a political rival is illegal. You get that right?

impenetrable arterial plaque keeps him from getting it :D

tw2113 09.25.2019 08:22 PM

America is turning brown from all the shit flinging from all angles.

Bytor Peltor 09.25.2019 09:39 PM

NO - as I replied to you on the previous page, I’m not aware that ringing a foreign country and asking for dirt is illegal. Will you take the time to explain how it’s illegal?

You are absolutely correct......two wrongs don’t make a right.


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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You are aware that two wrongs don't make a right, Bytor? Trump asking a foreign government for dirt on a political rival is illegal. You get that right?


Bytor Peltor 09.25.2019 09:43 PM

When Obama sent Biden to the Ukraine, threatening them that they would not receive a billion dollars unless certain individuals were fired......who was slinging shit then?

Definitely NO ONE here at SYG!!!

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Originally Posted by tw2113
America is turning brown from all the shit flinging from all angles.


!@#$%! 09.25.2019 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
NO - as I replied to you on the previous page, I’m not aware that ringing a foreign country and asking for dirt is illegal. Will you take the time to explain how it’s illegal?

You are absolutely correct......two wrongs don’t make a right.

lmfao marc thiessen

here some comments in reply to that stupid opinion piece:


Victor Wilburn
1 day ago
The headline-writer got this wrong. It should have been "My Inability to Tell the Difference Between Two Different Things That Are Different."
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Generalissimo Chickenhawk S J MacBonespurs
1 day ago
And then there is Joe Biden. In 2016, the then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees to Ukraine if the government did not fire the country’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin.
BIden was speaking on behalf of the US government, you duplicitous d!ckw@d. This was official policy, not an attempt to use a foreign power to smear an election opponent. And a number of other nations were united in that effort.
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Jasper_in_Boston
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1 day ago
So, it’s okay for Democratic senators to encourage Ukraine to investigate Trump...

Yes: it is perfectly acceptable to pressure a foreign government to fork over information vital to an ongoing investigation that itself concerns the national security of the United States.

It is not perfectly fine to pressure a foreign government to fork over dirt on your political opponents.

What an utterly infantile, amoral cretin this columnist is.
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h8kurdt 09.26.2019 12:26 AM

“Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”

Federal Election Commission Chair

!@#$%! 09.26.2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
“Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”

Federal Election Commission Chair

that’s gonna fly right over the pretend-head of a duplicitous dickwad who is (trollingly) unable to tell the difference between two different things that are different

so: calling him an utterly infantile amoral cretin saves a lot of time and effort

Bytor Peltor 09.26.2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
anything of value


So dirt, gossip or information is considered value?

Possibly......is it worthy of Impeachment? (probably not)

Who decides the value or worth?

Are the three Senators who sent the letter asking the Ukraine for dirt on Trump, are they held accountable? Are they removed from the Senate and lose their insurance and retirement? (probably not)

Is the “value” mentioned above equivalent to giving said country a billion dollars for having people fired? If then Vice President acting on behalf of then President did the same, what’s his consequence? Is his actions excused because he was acting on behalf of the President?

Don’t forget that the actions of then Vice President also led to his son receiving a golden parachute job that made him a millionaire. Do the sins of the father pour down on the son......what are Hunter’s consequences? Must he pay the millions back? (probably not)

What about the information received from the Ukraine Government in exchange for a billion+ from the United States, the information that led to the Black File and was eventually turned into the Steele Dossier. Don’t forget, the Steele Dossier was funded by Crooked Hillary and the DNC. Do they receive consequences for using campaign and government funds to finance such endeavors? (maybe?)

Remember, it was the “made up / fake” information in the Steele Dossier that led to fraud being perpetrated upon the FISA Court. Who is going to jail for lying to a Federal Judge? (anyone?)

Don't forget, it was information in the Steele Dossier that led to the Muller Report. Almost three years and $34 million dollars of wasted time and money to prove our current President did not collude with Russia!!!

However, it was Russia who approached the Trump Campaign with “dirt on the DEMS” (mostly Hillary) and Trump said “no thank you.” How did Russia have this dirt......they got it off a server that contained Highly Classified and Top Secret information because it was moved to a janitors closet at a pizza shop. For those who may have forgotten, the server was secretly placed there so Crooked Hillary and our then President could correspond and cut deals without detection. Who is holding them accountable, will they face justice (probably not)

It makes you wonder why they needed to avoid detection??? Oh yea, they were so worried and nervous that a never before politician would defeat Crooked Hillary in the election......how freaking pathetic is that?

A billion+ paid to the Ukraine, a million dollar job for Hunter, lies perpetrated before a FISA Cour, Top Secret information exposed to Russia just so a life long politician MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE at defeating a Orange Cheeto.

No wonder they and 90% of you reading and posting here at SYG are so furious, bitter and empty......and poor stuj is probably all out of popcorn......but at least he had enough sense to stick his head in the sand!!!

h8kurdt is 100% correct, two wrongs don’t make a right......but what about all these other wrongs? Hopefully h8kurdt and possibly a few others here have enough morale backbone and tenacity to see the hypocrisy?

And I’m not just talking about the hypocrisy of the TRUTH I provided above, but the hypocrisy of 90% of those posting in this thread continuously beating down the Orange Cheeto, berating and calling him names......but never calling out or taking a stand against all these other wrongs.

Noticed how I’ve mentioned 90%

A big THANK YOU to those who have sent me personal messages and left me positive reputation and comments......it’s easy to see from the juvenile mentality of many posting here why it’s not worth it to publicly express your support.

!@#$%! 09.26.2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
..they got it off a server that contained Highly Classified and Top Secret information because it was moved to a janitors closet at a pizza shop.

oh dear lord, pizzagate just won’t fucking die in the minds of cretins

i guess “don’t forget” is the magical spell that hypnotizes them

Bytor Peltor 09.26.2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
oh dear lord, pizzagate just won’t fucking die in the minds of cretins


Are you debating that Crooked Hillary didn’t stash a server containing Highly Classified and Top Secret information......or merely stating that Crooked Hillary stashed the server somewhere other than a pizza joint?

Does a juvenile cretin understand the difference?

!@#$%! 09.26.2019 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Are you debating that Crooked Hillary didn’t stash a server containing Highly Classified and Top Secret information......or merely stating that Crooked Hillary stashed the server somewhere other than a pizza joint?

i’m not “debating”

there’s no debating with the absolute certainty of your nonsense

im just pointing out to others the thermonuclear level of crap you spew

Bytor Peltor 09.26.2019 10:01 AM

This is what happens when juveniles can’t handle the truth!

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i’m not “debating”

there’s no debating with the absolute certainty of your nonsense

im just pointing out to others the thermonuclear level of crap you spew


!@#$%! 09.26.2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
This is what happens when juveniles can’t handle the truth!

juvenile beats senile any day, and the repetitious imbecilities you regurgitate all day are only “truth” to a CRETIN, all-caps or not.

it’s foolish to try to have a reasonable conversation with a duplicitous dickwad, and i learned that here.

go fuck yourself, david duke.

Bytor Peltor 09.26.2019 10:15 AM

A cretin is someone who will read my post and only glean this bit of information.

A cretin doesn’t have the moral tenacity to tackle anything else, because juvenile cretins aren’t interested in truth or justice.

A cretin proves this with each juvenile response......they are truly sad and bitter people.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
oh dear lord, pizzagate just won’t fucking die in the minds of cretins

i guess “don’t forget” is the magical spell that hypnotizes them



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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i’m not “debating”

there’s no debating with the absolute certainty of your nonsense

im just pointing out to others the thermonuclear level of crap you spew


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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
juvenile beats senile any day, and the repetitious imbecilities you regurgitate all day are only “truth” to a CRETIN, all-caps or not.

it’s foolish to try to have a reasonable conversation with a duplicitous dickwad, and i learned that here.

go fuck yourself, david duke.


!@#$%! 09.26.2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
A cretin is someone who will read my post and only glean this bit of information.

A cretin doesn’t have the moral tenacity to tackle anything else, because juvenile cretins aren’t interested in truth or justice.

A cretin proves this with each juvenile response......they are truly sad and bitter people.

i mean, where do you want me to start with the “information”

so many lies, it would take a lifetime

“moral tenacity” to waste on you?

hahahahahahhahaa

haaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

good one. that’s some quality trolling right there.

but if you’re serious, you need a neurologist.

Bytor Peltor 09.26.2019 10:38 AM

Once again juvenile, quote and reply!

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
so many lies, it would take a lifetime


!@#$%! 09.26.2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Once again juvenile, quote and reply!

you deserve nothing else

ilduclo 09.26.2019 11:05 AM

Was pretty hilarious that the Republan Senators, including the craven John “Kneely” Kennedy apply the spin that was directed to them, then see that the spin “squacking points” email was mistakenly sent to the entire Congress, including Democrats. Just like word for word. Way more so than the “transcript”.

Then sent another email attempting to recall the first one...

:lol:

This really is “Stupid Watergate”. Anyone who still supports Trimpy is just as criminal as him.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nt-what-to-say

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tori-symonds-b86b5948

poor kid (in a way) who mistakenly sent the email to Democrats. Gotta feel for her (a bit)

but then, you work with and profit from crooks, you kinda dig your own ditch to lie in.....

Bytor Peltor 09.27.2019 03:32 AM

Joe vs. Hunter......the TRUTH is Marching On!!!

A Step-by-Step Explication Of The TRUTH

Judicial Watch Sues for Documents on Biden Forcing Firing of Ukraine Prosecutor

U.S. Congressman Randy Webber

Here is my synopsis of the phone call and an outline of my thoughts on what became apparent yesterday:
1. Congress appropriates $400 million for the Ukrainians.
2. Planned for Feb 28, then May 23rd, Released Sept 11th.
3. Phone call on July 25th –
A. President Zelenskyy brings up draining swamp first & wants a new type of government (taught by Trump)
B. Trump says other countries should do more, the U.S. has been good.
C. Zelenskyy: Germany, E.U. should do more, especially against Russia.
D. Thanks Trump for help in Defense.

4. Trump says: do us a favor. Regarding the Russians & Crowdstrike – (a wealthy Ukrainian was involved) – The server of the DCCC hacking needs to get to the bottom of… Mueller report about Russian Collusion of course, it was actually DCCC collusion. (Trump wants that whole witch hunt with the origin of an illegal warrant investigated, - rightfully so…rw)

5. President Zelenskyy: brings up Giuliani. Plans to surround himself with great people & do the investigation openly & candidly.

6. Trump brings up fact that prosecutor Viktor Shokin was good, but he was shut down, (fired) by some very bad people involved. This is about the perceived illegal or at least influence peddling by Biden, Joe & Hunter. Trump knows it was improper & needs looking into. (apparently Biden was actually doing what the DEMS accused Trump of doing: exerting improper influence) Very similar to the Russian Collusion charge. (That’s what Clinton & DEMS were doing & accusing Trump of doing it…rw)

7. Pres Zelenskyy says he knows about the corruption & is knowledgeable, says in fact: the issue is to make sure to restore honesty. Asks for any more info U.S. may have. (Don’t miss this one: Pres Z asks for info/help on ending corruption in his country!...rw)

8. Trump says Giuliani will call & so will Attorney General Barr.
9. Exchange pleasantries to get together with each other, visit each other’s’ countries & hangs up.

In my opinion, there are two scandals:
1. Some "unknown bureaucrat without corroboration," & the rabid DEMS & Media attacking Trump.

The DEMS had decided the day after Trump was elected: November 09, 2016 that their job was to Resist, Obstruct & Impeach. "R.O.I." and that doesn't stand for Return on Investment! They have had an Impeachment charge in waiting, searching for something they could hang their hats on.

Russian Collusion didn't get it.
That was what they/are guilty of.
Now this won't get it either.

2. Biden’s alleged abuse of power/influence peddling.

Biden may be the biggest loser in all this...rw

h8kurdt 09.27.2019 05:23 AM

You're ignoring a couple of points. Firstly, the conversation was half an hour long. The whole of the released transcript would have been about what, ten minutes? That even if you read the whole thing aloud at a snail pace.
Second point, the White House has been desperate to hide the full transcript knowing there is stuff in there that sent alarm bells ringing to the whistleblower. There's more to the conversation and the White House is tripping over themselves to not release it all.

!@#$%! 09.27.2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You're ignoring a couple of points..

he’s ignoring basically everything that wasn’t dictated by orange supremo & his lying machine

too many falsehoods to count and infinite time to spend time refuting that gibberish bytoed copypasted or vomited

the irony of “the truth is marching on” being lyrics to the battle hymn of the republic that beat his white supremacist confederacy is lost on him

and it’s worthless to argue with someone who argues in bad faith, with his own set of alternative facts, and who pretends that sheer pigheadedness is “moral tenacity”...

...but good luck trying! :D

Bytor Peltor 09.27.2019 06:03 PM

Charlie Kirk

Democrats leading the charge to impeach Trump opposed Bill Clinton’s impeachment—calling it a partisan coup:

Nancy Pelosi

Jerry Nadler

Chuck Schumer

Joe Biden

Maxine Waters

I’m used to their hypocrisy

What’s more concerning:

They’re still in office 21 years later

ilduclo 09.27.2019 06:12 PM

Trimp buying millions in advertising to defend against the impeachment. Prepare to be convinced, bitey and h8rler

Bytor Peltor 09.27.2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
Trimp buying millions in advertising to defend against the impeachment. Prepare to be convinced, bitey and h8rler


Millions in advertising where?

TV, print or radio?

More importantly......why?

!@#$%! 09.27.2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Millions in advertising where?

TV, print or radio?

More importantly......why?

who the fuck do you think pays for this “epoch times” you like to quote so much, falun gong?

h8kurdt 09.28.2019 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You're ignoring a couple of points. Firstly, the conversation was half an hour long. The whole of the released transcript would have been about what, ten minutes? That even if you read the whole thing aloud at a snail pace.
Second point, the White House has been desperate to hide the full transcript knowing there is stuff in there that sent alarm bells ringing to the whistleblower. There's more to the conversation and the White House is tripping over themselves to not release it all.


Ok, Bytor stick to this thread and talk to me about this.

And doesn't the fact that the republicans have the senate mean Trumo most likely won't be impeached even if they could?

h8kurdt 09.28.2019 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
he’s ignoring basically everything that wasn’t dictated by orange supremo & his lying machine

too many falsehoods to count and infinite time to spend time refuting that gibberish bytoed copypasted or vomited

the irony of “the truth is marching on” being lyrics to the battle hymn of the republic that beat his white supremacist confederacy is lost on him

and it’s worthless to argue with someone who argues in bad faith, with his own set of alternative facts, and who pretends that sheer pigheadedness is “moral tenacity”...

...but good luck trying! :D


Aye, I know. And I get that it's like talking to a leave voter. There's not a cat in hell's chance I'm going to make them change their mind but it's still a fun ride for a little. Until someone throws up because it's all getting a bit much and you're left wondering why did you even go on the ride.

ilduclo 09.28.2019 08:32 AM

Oh, yeah..h8rky don’t need convincing. He’s been up the Trimp tube since 2016

ilduclo 09.28.2019 08:34 AM

So Chris Christie was asked to preview the whistleblower complaint and how bad it might be.

CHRIS CHRISTIE: For instance, if he’s saying, listen, do me a favor, go investigate Joe Biden, that’s one thing. If he’s saying, listen, I’m concerned about corruption, you’ve just gotten elected. we send hundreds of millions of dollars over there, you need to start looking at this, for instance, one of the things that occurred was the Hunter Biden situation, that becomes totally different.
And then, of course, Trump says "I would like you to do us a favor."

!@#$%! 09.28.2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo
Oh, yeah..h8rky don’t need convincing. He’s been up the Trimp tube since 2016

what?

!@#$%! 09.28.2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Aye, I know. And I get that it's like talking to a leave voter. There's not a cat in hell's chance I'm going to make them change their mind but it's still a fun ride for a little. Until someone throws up because it's all getting a bit much and you're left wondering why did you even go on the ride.


yeah i had a massive puke when i realized the fucker wasn’t a well-intentioned but misguided ignoramus, but a slimy hypocritical racist after all.

so now i’m just here to fling poo :D


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