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The Soup Nazi 02.23.2023 09:08 PM

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art deco and hot bitches


There's art deco in Miami? I couldn't tell; I was sweating like a horse.

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Shakespeare In Love or The Waterboy. I was being forced by team/peer pressure to do the latter.


Shakespeare In Love is an overrated turd anyway.

Skuj 02.23.2023 09:14 PM

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Shakespeare In Love is an overrated turd anyway.


IRMC.

!@#$%! 02.23.2023 09:23 PM

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Pity Party!! I get it!! 10/10.

For some very strange reason, some Florida educational boards are actually bowing to DeFuckingSantis. WTF is wrong with these people? Has Florida been America's trailer park for so long that they now accept the status quo?

My most memorable Florida experience:

Jacksonville. Circa 1998. Movietime. Shakespeare In Love or The Waterboy. I was being forced by team/peer pressure to do the latter. But, by divine intervention, the latter was sold out as I got to the counter. The former saw only me and my pal for the viewing in a vast and otherwise empty theatre.

Florida, I rest my case.


oh... jacksonville! lmfao. never been that far north. wouldn't bother either.

i like an empty movie house. you get the best views and no annoying people.

south florida has its charms though. i would not live there, but for hanging out hell yes

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There's art deco in Miami? I couldn't tell; I was sweating like a horse.


you have to dress for the weather. if you wanna wear black jeans and tshirt and boots and a leather jacket like you're a member of the ramones you're gonna have to stay in the tour bus.

there's ac every where though....

Skuj 02.23.2023 09:25 PM

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oh... jacksonville! lmfao. never been that far north. wouldn't bother either.

i like an empty movie house. you get the best views and no Floridians.


FTFY.

Skuj 02.23.2023 09:29 PM

Anyway, back to the "politics" of all this:

DeSantis intimately understands Rule #1:

Keep 'em dumb.

Keep 'em Republicun.

!@#$%! 02.23.2023 09:30 PM

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FTFY.

agreed! cheers lol

but north florida is the deep south

south florida otoh is very cosmopolitan and yeah ok touristy, but still... can be fun

there are a bazillion canucks who own condos there actually...

!@#$%! 02.23.2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Anyway, back to the "politics" of all this:

DeSantis intimately understands Rule #1:

Keep 'em dumb.

Keep 'em Republicun.

he does play fiddle with the culture wars though

seems like a bit of a paganini judging by results. but we'll see.

saw debbie wasserman on tv the other day saying that the result was a fluke, they were underfunded, etc, but yeah... not sure i believed her.

ETA: https://finance.yahoo.com/video/wass...190128221.html

The Soup Nazi 02.23.2023 11:01 PM

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you have to dress for the weather.


I could dress like Dexter's homicide detective Ángel Batista and still DIE from that unacceptable weather. Gimme dry heat at least. Ideally, a Minnesota winter... Mmmhh...

The Soup Nazi 02.23.2023 11:39 PM

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if you wanna wear black jeans and tshirt and boots and a leather jacket like you're a member of the ramones you're gonna have to stay in the tour bus.


Hey, ho, the Ramones wore blue jeans and sneakers.

 


 


You're thinking about the Pistols or somebody. Get your punk rock in order.

!@#$%! 02.24.2023 06:37 AM

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You're thinking about the Pistols or somebody. Get your punk rock in order.

"punk order"?

hahahahahaaaaaa

hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

haaaaaahaaaaahaaaaa

The Soup Nazi 02.24.2023 06:00 PM

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"punk order"?

hahahahahaaaaaa

hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

haaaaaahaaaaahaaaaa


Yeah, you know what I meant though, joker.

The Soup Nazi 02.25.2023 12:18 AM

From The New York Times:

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Conservatives face a rude fiscal awokening

Republican efforts to gut “woke” social insurance programs are self-defeating

By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist


The Republican response to President Biden’s suggestion that they want to cut Medicare and Social Security has been basically that of the Monty Python knights to the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog: “Run away, run away!” But many in the party still appear to hope that they can make big spending cuts without hurting anyone they care about.

Many House Republicans are reportedly listening to Russell Vought, Donald Trump’s former budget director, who has a new think tank and has been circulating a budget proposal titled “A Commitment to End Woke and Weaponized Government,” which purports to show a way to balance the budget without touching Medicare and Social Security. The document uses the word “woke” 77 times, and — weirdly for a fiscal blueprint — also manages to mention critical race theory 16 times.

Anyway, the proposal relies in part on magical thinking — the assertion that conservative economic policies will cause a burst of economic growth that in turn increases tax receipts. Such claims have, of course, never — and I mean never — worked in practice. But it’s difficult to get politicians to understand something when their careers depend on their not understanding it.

More interesting, however, is the idea that we can achieve major spending cuts by taking on wokeness. What this means in practice is huge cuts to means-tested social insurance programs: Medicaid, Affordable Care Act subsidies and food stamps (or, to use the official term, SNAP, for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program).

So now we know what many conservatives mean by being woke: It means showing any concern for, and offering any help to, Americans who are victims of adverse circumstances.

But if Republicans get anywhere close to carrying out the ideas in Vought’s blueprint, they’re going to get an education in both political and economic reality. The beneficiaries of the programs they want to gut aren’t whom they imagine, and the effects of slashing these programs would be far worse than they realize.

What’s going on in proposals like Vought’s, I believe, is that many conservatives are still stuck in a vision of American society that’s many decades out of date. (I keep thinking about the Florida officials who wanted to know whether the Advanced Placement course in African American history was “trying to advance Black Panther thinking.”) When they hear about means-tested programs, they think “welfare,” and when they think about welfare, they imagine that the beneficiaries are inner-city Black people.

In modern America, however, some of the biggest beneficiaries of means-tested programs are rural white people — who also happen to be the core of the Republican base.

Consider Owsley County, Ky. Eastern Kentucky is at the epicenter of the “Eastern Heartland,” a region that has been left stranded by the rise of the knowledge economy and the migration of jobs to highly educated metropolitan areas. The county is almost entirely non-Hispanic white; 88 percent of its voters supported Trump in 2020.

And 52 percent of its population is covered by Medicaid, while more than 40 percent are SNAP recipients.

Realities like this may explain why Medicaid appears to be highly popular, even among Republicans, and why large majorities of voters in states that haven’t yet expanded Medicaid appear to favor expansion. It’s true that politicians like Ron DeSantis who continue to block expansion haven’t paid any obvious political price. But as we saw in the political backlash against Trump’s attempt to repeal Obamacare, there’s a big difference between obstructing an expansion of social insurance and taking away benefits that have become an integral part of people’s lives.

Furthermore, although it may not matter much for the politics, it’s important to be aware that “woke” social insurance programs almost surely have important benefits beyond the financial support they provide.

First, the beneficiaries of these programs are disproportionately children. Medicaid covers 39 percent of all American children under 18; in West Virginia, another almost all-white and very Trumpy part of the Eastern Heartland, the number is 46 percent. More than 65 percent of SNAP recipients are families with children.

Why does this matter? Partly for moral reasons. Even if you’re one of those people who blame the poor for their own plight, children didn’t choose to be born into low-income households, so why should they be the prime targets of fiscal pain?

There are also practical reasons to provide aid to children, because today’s children are tomorrow’s adults — and they’ll be more productive adults if they have adequate nutrition and health care in their formative years.

This isn’t a speculative assertion. Both SNAP and Medicaid were rolled out gradually across the United States, creating a series of “natural experiments” — situations in which some children had early access to these programs and some otherwise similar children didn’t. And the evidence is clear: Childhood safety net programs lead to improved outcomes in adulthood, including better health and greater economic self-sufficiency.

Actually, the evidence for long-run economic payoffs to investing in children is a lot more solid than the evidence for payoffs to investing in infrastructure, even though the latter has bipartisan support while the former doesn’t.

So if you’re concerned about America’s future, which advocates of big budget cuts claim to be, slashing benefits for children is a really bad way to address your concerns.

And there’s another benefit to Medicaid, in particular: It helps keep rural hospitals alive. America has a growing crisis in simple availability of medical care in rural areas, presumably tied to the growing geographic divergence that has stranded places like eastern Kentucky. But the crisis is significantly worse in states that haven’t expanded Medicaid. That is, Medicaid doesn’t just help its direct recipients; it helps anyone seeking medical care, by helping to keep hospitals afloat.

Now think about what would happen if Congress slashed overall Medicaid funding. One likely result is that the rural-hospital crisis would go national.

So conservatives who think that targeting “woke” spending provides an easy way out of their dilemma — they want to shrink the government, but the big-money government programs are highly popular — are deluding themselves. If they get anywhere near actually realizing their plans, they’re going to face a rude awokening.

The Soup Nazi 02.25.2023 12:35 AM

The only problem with Krugman's column above is that MAGAssholes, like the Teabaggers before them, are prone to vote against their own interests. Only if the Democrats as a whole capitalize on the GOP's attempts to fuck with social programs the way Biden did on the State of the Union address (that was gangsta cool, by the way) disaster will be avoided in 2024.

!@#$%! 02.25.2023 11:37 AM

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Yeah, you know what I meant though, joker.


 

The Soup Nazi 02.25.2023 12:03 PM

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Why do you have to escalate things so quickly?

!@#$%! 02.25.2023 01:59 PM

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Why do you have to escalate things so quickly?

i'm helping to save the planet by not wasting precious energy resources in an endless nitpicking dialectic? :o

choc e-Claire 02.26.2023 06:58 AM

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Not to be a stickler about this, but... yeah, I'm gonna be a goddamn stickler about this: America goes from Canada to Chile. You're American, and I'm American.


The Chilean twink I want to fuck went on a two-minute rant about this to me once, it was so cute.

The Soup Nazi 02.26.2023 05:54 PM

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The Chilean twink I want to fuck went on a two-minute rant about this to me once, it was so cute.


Are you dabbling in bi-titude? None of my damn business, but you sure gave Kyrsten Sinema some shit about it... :)

choc e-Claire 02.26.2023 07:47 PM

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Are you dabbling in bi-titude? None of my damn business, but you sure gave Kyrsten Sinema some shit about it... :)


Sinema is the annoying kind of bisexual, I'm the good one.

tw2113 02.26.2023 08:40 PM

Pointless interjection, Kyrsten can have my phone number any time she wants.

The Soup Nazi 02.26.2023 08:50 PM

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Pointless interjection, Kyrsten can have my phone number any time she wants.


 

choc e-Claire 02.27.2023 03:21 AM

^ see what i mean? leaving aside her politics, she's the worst kind of stereotype about every "quirky" and "edgy" middle aged woman.

tw2113 02.27.2023 09:27 AM

I'm just thinking with my private parts here.

!@#$%! 02.27.2023 12:25 PM

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I'm just thinking with my private parts here.


 

The Soup Nazi 03.01.2023 01:33 AM

From Fareed Zakaria's newsletter:

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Brexit: Done?


In 2019, Boris Johnson won the job of UK prime minister on a campaign slogan of “Get Brexit Done.” Has current Prime Minister Rishi Sunak just achieved it?

The UK and EU agreed on Monday—pending a vote in Britain’s Parliament, promised by Sunak—to alter the so-called “Northern Ireland protocol,” a major point of tension over Brexit’s finalized form. That had established a customs border in the Irish Sea, which separates the island of Great Britain from Northern Ireland, as an alternative to establishing such a border on land, between UK-member-nation Northern Ireland and EU-member-country Ireland. (The issue remains contentious and has raised fears of violence. Whether there should be any border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, after all, was the subject of a civil war and a decades-long insurgency known as the Troubles.)

As the Financial Times explains in detail, the newly agreed-to “Windsor Framework” would sort goods flowing from Britain to Northern Ireland into “red” and “green” channels, based on the likelihood they’d end up in Ireland (and thus within the EU). The former category would be checked before entering Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK. “Parcels to friends or family (in Northern Ireland) and online deliveries from Great Britain will not require customs paperwork,” the paper writes, “ending another significant source of aggravation for Northern Ireland residents. Businesses using approved parcel carriers will have simplified customs procedures.”

The deal is being celebrated by many. The Economist urges support for it, noting a dearth of workable alternatives from “(h)ardline Tory MPs.” At CNN Business, Hanna Ziady reports potential economic benefits, as the existing arrangement has “upended supply chains (and) raised costs for businesses.” In an editorial, the Financial Times calls this “a significant moment for post-Brexit Britain.” The New Statesman’s Andrew Marr declares, “Rishi Sunak has become Prime Minister. I exaggerate, but only slightly.”



Or, Not So Fast?


Not everyone is wowed. In a Telegraph op-ed, Sherelle Jacobs argues the deal enshrines “Northern Ireland’s fate as a vassal state of Brussels,” as the EU will retain a say over how all of this is put into practice, and thus over Northern Ireland’s trade policies. The Spectator’s Freddy Gray lampoons the uncertainty (and the history of wooden jargon surrounding Brexit), arguing for instance that a so-called “Stormont brake”—included in the new deal to give Northern Ireland’s devolved government a chance to reject EU mandates—might or might not be so meaningful, in practice. Multiple observers have cautioned that it’s not clear whether Brexiteer MPs and Northern Ireland’s top unionist party will line up behind the deal, as the details are examined more fully. The New Statesman’s Marr notes warily the bitterness that any Irish Sea border could incur from unionist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland.

Still, some who back the deal hope it will deliver the UK from a miasmic political era dominated by Brexit and its aftermath—along with, they hope, broader geopolitical windfalls.

“With luck, the deal may yet begin a normalisation of UK-EU relations, and of UK politics,” the FT writes in its editorial. The Economist offers similar sentiments, writing that the new deal “paves the way for much improved UK-EU relations. … It should bolster security and foreign-policy co-operation, something that matters more since (Russian President) Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Better relations with France could boost bilateral co-operation to deter migrants crossing the channel in small boats. And the deal would do much to repair Britain’s relations with America, whose president cares deeply about peace in Northern Ireland.”


!@#$%! 03.02.2023 10:46 AM

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From Fareed Zakaria's newsletter:


boris just came out against this "windsor framework", because of course.

reported 2h ago by the ft

The Soup Nazi 03.02.2023 04:15 PM

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boris just came out against this "windsor framework", because of course.


Maybe because it didn't occur to him? ;):D

Skuj 03.02.2023 07:46 PM

"Achieving Brexit".

Lol.

!@#$%! 03.03.2023 10:53 AM

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Maybe because it didn't occur to him? ;):D

who knows. trying to stay relevant by stirring up shit without offering any actual solutions, i guess?

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"Achieving Brexit".

Lol.

anything they could do to diminish the damage of their own stupidity would be a good thing.

cutting your nose to spite your face: a tried-and-true recipe for the ages!

their next genius move: sticking one's dick into a nest of wasps. for science!

anyway see if this link works for you: https://www.economist.com/britain/20...exit-in-charts

Skuj 03.05.2023 03:36 PM

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...lance-footage/

In a perfect world, this would be McCarthy's first huge blunder and he would pay dearly for it.

But.......

!@#$%! 03.05.2023 03:44 PM

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https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...lance-footage/

In a perfect world, this would be McCarthy's first huge blunder and he would pay dearly for it.

But.......

yeah and that wasn't just "access", it was *exclusive* access given to this little fucking goebbels apprentice.

but this isn't gonna be the end of it. this may not be a perfect world, but everybody else isn't just gonna do nothing like a moron. there will be a response.

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and now here for a bit of fun...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...orce-rcna73451

overdue i think, it should have happened years ago

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oh, and this here tweet is where those 2 subjects merge:

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/statu...300003329?s=20

The Soup Nazi 03.05.2023 06:12 PM

The Conways. Just your typical, well-adjusted American family. Coming soon on Nickelodeon.

The Soup Nazi 03.06.2023 01:40 AM

And in CPAC news (one of those Cs must stand for "crazy"), who won the president and vice president polls? Ron Oversized Jacket and Darling Nikki? Nope, it was you-know-who and... Kari Lake! ROUND THREE IS COMING.

Skuj 03.06.2023 02:16 PM

I never could figure out how the Conways were together.

And I think the C is for cunt.

!@#$%! 03.07.2023 11:39 AM

trying to watch powell testify before congress, and i can't fucking believe the level of imbecility of so many grandstanding congress members trying to get powell to agree with their idiotic speeches.

jd vance wants to give up the reserve status of the dollar so that appalachians can "make things." ��

and lizzie warren wants to have her cake and eat it too and scold powell like an angry schoolmarm while she does it.

i hate everyone of these people hahahahha. please put some grownups in charge.

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oh here comes motormouth sinema... is she on coke?

The Soup Nazi 03.07.2023 05:28 PM

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oh here comes motormouth sinema... is she on coke?


 


Actually, I think that's Greene, sorry.

Skuj 03.07.2023 07:36 PM

Wow.

McCarthy gives Fucker Carlson the tapes.

Fucker does what he does.

And then.....

Bipartisan outrage!!! (Well....some Repukes, anyway.)

Sometimes I have some faith in America!!!

Will McCarthy pay a price now??

(Carville is right: McCarthy is the DUMBEST Speaker ever.)

The Soup Nazi 03.07.2023 08:57 PM

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Will McCarthy pay a price now??


No. Who's gonna police him - the Republican-controlled House? He's Drumpf's designated Speaker.

Electoral defeats after electoral defeats after electoral defeats: the only thing that will take power away from Trumpism.

!@#$%! 03.08.2023 09:20 AM

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Electoral defeats after electoral defeats after electoral defeats: the only thing that will take power away from Trumpism.

YEEEEEEES.

but there are also donors and grassroots operations and lawyers and legislators and a whole universe of political operations around all that, including of course (haha, i almost forgot to mention them) voters (and their media channels).

and i guess one has to keep an eye on the suburban voter and the youth turnout, because that's what made a difference last time, plus some other critical constituencies that need to deliver the goods.

!@#$%! 03.08.2023 09:27 AM

in light of the progressive take on the fed lately, is there anyone around willing to discuss mmt a bit?


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