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Severian 08.14.2013 06:50 PM

Come on assholes. Don't let this thread- which has become one of the highlights of my day to day life- lose its momentum.

Aw shit

louder 08.14.2013 11:54 PM

no man, i think that Jay E actually had the better verse. but Kendrick yelled a lot, claimed to be the king of NY (which is sort of crazy considering that he's from the west coast y'know), said that he's killing all the other "newschool" rappers then called them by their names, etc. so yeah, overall Jay E had a great verse but normal people won't even notice, while Kendrick's verse will go down as historical.

the technical rapping on Section.80 might be better, but Good Kid is a better crafted album, in my opinion, a total masterpiece.

sorry i've been busy studying lately. Doris and Trap Lord leaked and they're both pretty great so far.

louder 08.15.2013 12:03 AM

seriously it sucks that Jay E's verse is so unnoticed. dude pulled a DOOM on this one. "Jay Electricity, PBS mysteries".. damn.

louder 08.15.2013 12:09 AM

a lot of people are really mad at Kendrick right now tho. pulling out diss records and shit. maybe hip-hop will get interesting for a while.

btw Eminem dropped a new song last night which sounds like Recovery 2.0. if it's going to be on his album then i won't even listen.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.15.2013 12:35 AM

What y'all got on the Grouch? Though in truth, the CD remix of Don't Talk To Me was SOOOOO much fucking better than the original demo version. The post-2000 beats from the Grouch are epically Yay Area. Good shit. Stage show is ok though..but I only saw him do a few songs with Zion-I at Amoeba in Hollywood so it might not have had the full effect. More and more I realize that I really just don't like new hip hop artists, and its not that I am entirely stuck in the 1990s, its just that all the artists I bumped in the 90s keep putting out great albums through out the 2000s so I just stay stuck in my zone. I wish I could expand, I just don't really feel it. Though I did like the Tree mix-tapes, maybe the only contemporary hip-hop I like (by the way, louder introduced that to me from posts on this thread :) ) What is hilarious is I can't STAND trap, its just a crunk, gutted version of that Yay Area Hustle (E-40, B-Legit, The Mossie, Al Kapone, Celly Cell, Funk Mobb) rap but I don't like those beats. What sucks is I can't find ANYWHERE to buy the first Sunday School, and I like it better than the more widely distributed Sunday School II.







 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.15.2013 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Mr. Roger's was gangster back in the day: http://youtu.be/Fw_GnjE-des


That was priceless, I love Fred Rogers now more than ever!! Pop-locking!! hot damn

louder 08.15.2013 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Though I did like the Tree mix-tapes, maybe the only contemporary hip-hop I like (by the way, louder introduced that to me from posts on this thread :) )

am pretty sure it was Bytor, but yeah good stuff. :)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.15.2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
am pretty sure it was Bytor, but yeah good stuff. :)


Even better!

Severian 08.16.2013 06:44 AM

Dudes... Louder... SuchFriends... noisereductions....

Um... "Doris."

I just wanted to be the one to say it.
"Doris" ... My drive to work is going to be fuckin baller.

louder 08.16.2013 06:47 AM

yeah, i've already heard the whole thing. ;)

lyrically it might be the best album of the year so far.

Bytor Peltor 08.16.2013 09:08 AM

 


Stream it here: https://soundcloud.com/ofwgkta-official/sets/earl-sweatshirt-doris

louder 08.16.2013 10:23 AM

HOLY SHIT, that new Captain Murphy x Viktor Vaughn x Earl track is so dope!

http://pitchfork.com/news/51934-list...ween-villains/

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.16.2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor


Dude, I can't fucking STAND odd future ( I think they are almost a bad movie caricature of LA rap and their music is pure negativity) however I am REALLY digging this! thanks for posting that link, much like with TREE bytor has introduced me to perhaps the only two contemporary rappers that can catch fame on my iPod. By they way, this sound IS 100% that dark, almost gothic west coast beats epitomed by rappers like Luniz or E-40's Element of Surprise. I dig that shit most of all! Dr Dooom First Come First Served just might be my all-time favorite rap album, and its as dark as they come. I do like that odd future are a bunch of south central skaters, and I admit, by harsh judging of them is based on a limited sample size, but I checked out their earlier shit and totally didn't like it. It felt like it was forcing a gangsta or ruff sound. I checked out some more recent shit and it seems more realistic as to who those cats are. This earl sweatshirt is EXACTLY what I expect from skateboard hip hop from South Central. I go to church 2-4 days a week in South Central, and I take the bus/train so I ain't just passing through. I'm walking up and down the hood, I know all kinds of folks in all kinds of spots in the hood, I still love it. One of the best parts of the hood is the advent of skateshops and skateboarding around post-2005. When I was skating in middle and high school, simply put, dudez in the hood didn't skate. Gangsters in particular were hostile to skateboarding. So there weren't kids in the hood skating, and there weren't skateshop. The first skateshop to open up in the hood was on Compton BLVD and MLK in 2005. Since then, there are skate shops all over the hood, and now I see so many kids skating in the hood its fucking epic. I lOVE it. Its such a radical shift to how it was when I was growing up. These kids aren't posers either, they're fucking kick ass skating! There are even city-made skate parks in Compton and South LA now, reflecting the growing demand. Best of all, gangstas be giving props to skaters now, no longer diss. I think Odd Future properly reflect that change

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.16.2013 11:59 AM

While the lyrics on doris are much better, the beats are pretty cool on this too

 


If theses dudes could resurrect this style of beats I just might start to get more interested in contemporary rap and hip hop. Either way, I'm really excited, that is FIVE new albums from two new artists I've found this year, probably the most for me in years!

Bytor Peltor 08.16.2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
however I am REALLY digging this! thanks for posting that link, much like with TREE bytor has introduced me to perhaps the only two contemporary rappers that can catch fame on my iPod.


Glad you found some enjoys with it.

Speaking of, I hope this doesn't cause you to starts dancing......don't want you to bust a stitch.

......Reppin' For The Nativz: http://youtu.be/05O73uOE_bE

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.16.2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Glad you found some enjoys with it.

Speaking of, I hope this doesn't cause you to starts dancing......don't want you to bust a stitch.

......Reppin' For The Nativz: http://youtu.be/05O73uOE_bE


I'd love to have some stitches to bust, open wound to heal. go back on sunday. hoping not have to be repacked, may get stitches or not then. as to the hip hop, i'm listening to it for the third time today so its pretty dope. I've also been particularly enjoying Black Sabbath. Probably the narco-haze..

Bytor Peltor 08.17.2013 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
hoping not have to be repacked

I've also been particularly enjoying Black Sabbath. Probably the narco-haze..


If possible, you should post a pic of your wound :eek:

narco-haze?



Ex-member of B2K, Raz-B on life support




 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.17.2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
If possible, you should post a pic of your wound :eek:


Its not that bad looking. I was fucking proud of myself, I changed my own bandage this morning. Now as to the bandage? That was indeed disgustingly awful sight. I got lucky, its the back of my leg, its small. If it were same procedure on the stomach or back it'd be a gaping hole!

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narco-haze?


I'm trying to figure out why on earth any yputube user would post videos from that weird Ian Gillan era of Sabbath. He was a step up from Dio, but really? No. I'm thinking narco-haze more like Volume IV or Sabbath Bloody Sabbath :cool:

Bytor Peltor 08.17.2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I'm trying to figure out why on earth any yputube user would post videos from that weird Ian Gillan era of Sabbath. He was a step up from Dio, but really? No. I'm thinking narco-haze more like Volume IV or Sabbath Bloody Sabbath :cool:


The Ian Gillan Sabbath was my first concert that wasn't country (Willie Nelson, Statler Brothers, Alabama).....Night Ranger was the opening act.

I more than understand, 'Born Again' is an odd album and most Sabbath fans hate it. However, songs like, "Disturbing The Priest," "Zero The Hero" and "Keeping It Warm" are some of my favorites. NO - they're not classic Sabbath, but they have always held a special place in my heart.

Being able to see Sabbath perform, "Smoke On The Water" as part of the encore with classics such as, "Iron Man" and "Children Of The Grave" was something special for this 8th grader.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.18.2013 12:29 AM

I don't think Born Again is the worst of the 80s Sabbath, indeed, on the bridge and jam moments its really not half bad. The real problem is that it wasn't meant to be black sabbath in the first place, but as always, the band got persuaded by record label folks to roll with the marketing success and name recognition of Sabbath. It was meant to be its own group, and it sounds very much that way. Also, a lot of metal heads dig it.

louder 08.18.2013 01:53 AM

updated top 10 rap projects of the year:

1. Kanye West - Yeezus
2. Earl Sweatshirt - Doris
3. Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap
4. A$AP Rocky - Long.Live.A$AP
5. A$AP Ferg - Trap Lord
6. Run the Jewels - s/t
7. Ghostface Killah & Adrian Younge - Twelve Reasons to Die
8. Ka - The Night's Gambit
9. Tree - Sunday School II: When Church Lets Out
10. Big K.R.I.T - King Remembered in Time

louder 08.18.2013 01:59 AM

hey SuchFriends bro, i figured you might like this joint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcxihVLfB8I

Bone Thugz ripped A$AP Ferg a new one. :p

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.18.2013 02:29 AM

that is because unlike A$AP Ferg. Bone can rap

Severian 08.18.2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
updated top 10 rap projects of the year:

1. Kanye West - Yeezus
2. Earl Sweatshirt - Doris
3. Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap
4. A$AP Rocky - Long.Live.A$AP
5. A$AP Ferg - Trap Lord
6. Run the Jewels - s/t
7. Ghostface Killah & Adrian Younge - Twelve Reasons to Die
8. Ka - The Night's Gambit
9. Tree - Sunday School II: When Church Lets Out
10. Big K.R.I.T - King Remembered in Time


Wow. You know, I'd have to scroll back through this list to even remember what my favorite raps of the year used to be! This has been a hell of a year for hip hop.

where did Indigoism run off to? That's still a top 10'er for me for sure. I seem to remember you being pretty into it.

Glad to see Tree in your list. Sunday School II has been one of my picks since the first time I heard it. I'm going to have to let Doris set in, and pit Yeezus and 12 Reasons against each other once more before I can assemble a proper updated list. However, I know Magna Carta Holy Grail is going to be on there, if a little lower than I'd expected.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.18.2013 06:08 PM

Sunday School II > Doris > Ghostface > Yeezus all the other shit on the list ;)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.18.2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Sunday School II > Doris > Ghostface > Yeezus all the other shit on the list ;)


Ok, what the fuck was I talking about? That Ghostface was the best album of the year maybe hip hop and even otherwise, his best since Fishscale (and these beatz are even better). So

Ghostface > Sunday School II > Doris > Yeezus.. etc

chocolate_ladyland 08.19.2013 12:55 AM

Hive on earl's new tape is my fucking jam. Too many features but still really good

Severian 08.19.2013 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Ok, what the fuck was I talking about? That Ghostface was the best album of the year maybe hip hop and even otherwise, his best since Fishscale (and these beatz are even better). So

Ghostface > Sunday School II > Doris > Yeezus.. etc



Thank you. When I read your first post I almost shat m'self.

Ghostface may very well outrank Yeezus for me as well, and it's definitely one of the best albums of the year, irrespective of genre.

louder 08.19.2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Wow. You know, I'd have to scroll back through this list to even remember what my favorite raps of the year used to be! This has been a hell of a year for hip hop.

where did Indigoism run off to? That's still a top 10'er for me for sure. I seem to remember you being pretty into it.

Glad to see Tree in your list. Sunday School II has been one of my picks since the first time I heard it. I'm going to have to let Doris set in, and pit Yeezus and 12 Reasons against each other once more before I can assemble a proper updated list. However, I know Magna Carta Holy Grail is going to be on there, if a little lower than I'd expected.

i just haven't felt the urge to revisit it lately due to the repetitive subject matter. still a dope project i guess.

i do find Magna Carta entertaining as hell, just like every other "mediocre" Jay album. but i can't say that it's something which will be worth remembering in 2-3 years, you know?

i've also been digging the new Gucci "World War III" trilogy, as well as some other stuff. seriously i think i could make a top 25 by the end this year.

oh and i'm so excited about Schoolboy Q's upcoming album. i think that'll end up as my album of the year.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.19.2013 07:05 PM

Alright, seriously. After just listening again, how can anything this year even touch that new Ghostface? Those are some SICK A$$ beats. Kendrick Lamar can have tupac fantasies on his verses and Kanye and have 'no sex in the champagne room' delusions but Ghostface closed the lid on 2013, period. I can't believe I didn't notice this as much months ago when it came out, it slipped under the radar for me until recently. Shit This mutha fucka put it down. Everything else is just playing around, tap dancing towards the real, but Tony Starks came through and brought The Real.

 

Severian 08.19.2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
i just haven't felt the urge to revisit it lately due to the repetitive subject matter. still a dope project i guess.

i do find Magna Carta entertaining as hell, just like every other "mediocre" Jay album. but i can't say that it's something which will be worth remembering in 2-3 years, you know?

i've also been digging the new Gucci "World War III" trilogy, as well as some other stuff. seriously i think i could make a top 25 by the end this year.

oh and i'm so excited about Schoolboy Q's upcoming album. i think that'll end up as my album of the year.


Can you shoot me a message with a list of the hip hop you've purchased from 2013? I want to compare notes, and I don't think you've revealed everything here in the cafe.

Surprisingly, the 2013 Slum Village album is pretty satisfying. Nothing new, nothing revelatory, but I'm sorry I ignored it just because it's not some new flashy "it" project by one of rap's revolving door of key players.

Btw: where the fuck is Lil B? I never hear anyone hyping him anymore, and I think Earl or Typer even throws a diss his way on Doris.

How many of these guys ARE going to be remembered? I'm not sure any of them will, if B is already "where are they now" insult worthy.

Severian 08.19.2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Alright, seriously. After just listening again, how can anything this year even touch that new Ghostface? Those are some SICK A$$ beats. Kendrick Lamar can have tupac fantasies on his verses and Kanye and have 'no sex in the champagne room' delusions but Ghostface closed the lid on 2013, period. I can't believe I didn't notice this as much months ago when it came out, it slipped under the radar for me until recently. Shit This mutha fucka put it down. Everything else is just playing around, tap dancing towards the real, but Tony Starks came through and brought The Real.

 


I fully agree, and I think you're right that 12 reasons is the most high quality hip hop release of the year. However, it doesn't hit me emotionally like Yeezus does at its darkest moments, and despite a few lyrical foibles, I think Kanye remains the biggest visionary in the genre. So, Yeezus might beat out ol' Ghostface on my list, which is almost heresy for someone who worships Wu the way I do, but you're totally right that nothing else (especially some new OFWGKTA novelty that most of us will probably roll our eyes at in a year... No offense; Doris kills... But so did wolf for a few days) can touch 12 Reasons, an album that will most definitely be remembered by an artist who is already a legend among legends.

louder 08.20.2013 08:03 AM

well Lil B is more of a satirican than a serious artist, enough people still download his mixtapes, and he's an independent artist.

A$AP freestyles on Flex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu2-2wJ9W_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8wUn2in85I

damn, they went in!!

5:00 @ the second vid, Ferg disses the fuck outta Kendrick/TDE. whew!!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.21.2013 12:14 AM

 


vs

 

??????

Severian 08.21.2013 06:45 AM

I prefer volume II, and have from the get go, but I haven't listened to volume I since II came out.

This album really grabbed me by the balls. I'm excited that it's become one of the consistent favorites around here.

louder 08.21.2013 06:56 AM

you can stream Juicy J's new album here: http://staytrippy.thejuicyj.com/

haven't heard it yet, but nevertheless i'm expecting dopeness.

louder 08.21.2013 07:58 AM

oh yeah new AZ track: https://soundcloud.com/clockworkmusi...-dirty-prod-by

sounds so good. Doe or Die 2 coming out next year i think.

noisereductions 08.21.2013 11:49 AM

was never much of a AZ fan.

louder 08.21.2013 02:22 PM

whoa.. Doe or Die is as good as It Was Written, at least in my opinion.

noisereductions 08.21.2013 02:33 PM

yeah a lot of dudes tend to love that album. Not me so much. I know I'll catch hell for this, but my least fav part of Illmatic is AZ on "Life's A Bitch." Weird right?


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