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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.04.2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
yeah, I'm trying to get into that love the one you're with thing.

That's a girl thing, you want more male perspective

Don't try and love anyone. LIKE the one you're with and leave it at that. Love is an art not a skill. It either is there or its not. It will develop on its own terms or it won't, but "trying" to love really is doomed to fail. Ive always noticed myself that women tend to fluctuate with love whereas for most men ive known love is permanent, no fluctuations. That is why often we see that its women who break of relationships where "they were in love" and ive known too many men with sincerely broken hearts. If anything its probably why so many men become assholes to women, retaliation.

schizophrenicroom 02.04.2015 11:42 PM

i never thought of it all that way. and I see that. I definitely can get to tempestuous levels of on/off with people... hm. I appreciate it, dude

!@#$%! 02.04.2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
male perspective?


maybe tomorrow, if you stick around

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Originally Posted by Antagon
My second stint as a DJ turned out to be even better than the first time around. Got to talk to the host of another event called "Totentanz/Gallow Dance". She said she might consider working with me in the future.


and congrats! sorry i didn't say that earlier but pantophobia's post shook me up

schizophrenicroom 02.04.2015 11:50 PM

I'll be around

a congrats from me too, antagon. that's wicked!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.04.2015 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
i never thought of it all that way. and I see that. I definitely can get to tempestuous levels of on/off with people...

.

That is what many men find the most confusing aspect of women, shit for a man even grandma can be hard to understand because y'all aren't simple like math. I also believe some men become assholes with women because it creates an artificial barrier to real and vulnerable intimacy and so really the relationships they have aren't with the women but with a construction which of course then men can pretend to understand because its not the actual mind and soul of the real woman. Me, i approach women like the mystifying force of nature y'all are. Some men try to study the hydrology that formed the Grand Canyon (eg do the math) but me id rather enjoy the view while riding the rapids wherever they go..
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I appreciate it, dude
 

schizophrenicroom 02.05.2015 12:06 AM

i just have issues falling for dudes who I feel are looking for a girl to complete them or have some idealized notion of that, if that makes sense. like, I've lived with an SO once and we had so many issues of control because I surpassed him in a lot of ways and he was mad that I wasn't the girl on his level so to speak. not the dude I'm seeing, but the guy I think I love... I don't have to be anything to him and that's a very liberating aspect of our friendship. he just seems to be so aloof and guarded (same age difference as the other guy, if it makes a difference.) y'all guys are just as mystifying. I've tried.

A Thousand Threads 02.05.2015 07:19 AM

heating system broke where I work.
so, i have off for the rest of the week.

I'm not used to have time.
what do people do in these situations?
post on message boards?

!@#$%! 02.05.2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by A Thousand Threads
heating system broke where I work.
so, i have off for the rest of the week.

I'm not used to have time.
what do people do in these situations?
post on message boards?


maybe in 2005, but these days message boards are superslow

if you wanna stay home & do nothing you could read a big fat book, binge on all 5 seasons on "the wire" or play a computer game non-stop until your metabolism shuts down.

alternatively you could go on vacation.

or-- you could look for some temp work replacing someone somewhere and make some money while the place reopens.

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
I'll be around


okay. i have to get to work but i'll reread & reply.

schizophrenicroom 02.05.2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by A Thousand Threads
heating system broke where I work.
so, i have off for the rest of the week.

I'm not used to have time.
what do people do in these situations?
post on message boards?


I second the wire and add battlestar galactica.

h8kurdt 02.05.2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
maybe in 2005, but these days message boards are superslow

if you wanna stay home & do nothing you could read a big fat book, binge on all 5 seasons on "the wire" or play a computer game non-stop until your metabolism shuts down.

alternatively you could go on vacation.

or-- you could look for some temp work replacing someone somewhere and make some money while the place reopens.



okay. i have to get to work but i'll reread & reply.


Who in the right mind would do that?!

!@#$%! 02.05.2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Who in the right mind would do that?!


someone who needs the cash, likes their work, and is looking to make "industry" connections

i mean, the guy said he doesn't know what to do with his free time

and if the heater broke and they have to close for a week-- who knows what will happen to the place next?

i'd line me up some interviews...

dead_battery 02.05.2015 02:05 PM

if even a fraction of the people whose jobs will be taken by computers within the next few decades were aware of it...

you can sit and ask me "BUT HOW DOES IT KNOW??" when i try and explain self driving cars to you, and you can ask me this over and over again until you nearly crash your own, these things actually exist.

nothing in the brain that makes you special or supernatural and that cant be replicated as machinic function.

adapt or whine bitches.

!@#$%! 02.05.2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
if even a fraction of the people whose jobs will be taken by computers within the next few decades were aware of it...

you can sit and ask me "BUT HOW DOES IT KNOW??" when i try and explain self driving cars to you, and you can ask me this over and over again until you nearly crash your own, these things actually exist.

nothing in the brain that makes you special or supernatural and that cant be replicated as machinic function.

adapt or whine bitches.


ATT is a restaurant cook, if i recall

fortunately that won't be replaced by robots for a while-- too chaotic, thank fuck

Rob Instigator 02.05.2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
i
nothing in the brain that makes you special or supernatural and that cant be replicated as machinic function.



there is nothing supernatural. everything in nature is natural. The city is a natural scape.


HOWEVER, no machine yet has willpower to create a new image or story or song. You can program machines to "write" a song or a book, but it does not get inspiration by itself and do so. THAT is the difference. humans rule.

!@#$%! 02.05.2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
there is nothing supernatural. everything in nature is natural. The city is a natural scape.


HOWEVER, no machine yet has willpower to create a new image or story or song. You can program machines to "write" a song or a book, but it does not get inspiration by itself and do so. THAT is the difference. humans rule.


sure thing but technology rules the economy and this is the source of the increasing economic inequality we're seeing

e.g. amazon putting stores out of business

google angling to knock uber out of their racket after they put a hurt on taxis

etc

dead_battery 02.05.2015 02:36 PM

im gonna find a jpeg of an actual real life burger flipping robot in one sec.

then your next move is to say either:

that it wont progress towards more complex cooking tasks, which is incorrect.

or to change your mind.

you can play the whole "its not gonna happen for centuries if at all" move which is a bluff that is thankfully running out of time in which to appear credible

or you can say there are some limits that make the brain a mysterious object science will never understand, which is absolutely 100% untrue.

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"inspiration" - doesnt mean anything except a word you use to describe neuro-mechanical processes you cant see.

plenty of ai's already writing newspaper stories, making music.

dead_battery 02.05.2015 02:40 PM

 

!@#$%! 02.05.2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dead_battery
im gonna find a jpeg of an actual real life burger flipping robot in one sec.

then your next move is to say either:

that it wont progress towards more complex cooking tasks, which is incorrect.

or to change your mind.

you can play the whole "its not gonna happen for centuries if at all" move which is a bluff that is thankfully running out of time in which to appear credible

or you can say there are some limits that make the brain a mysterious object science will never understand, which is absolutely 100% untrue.


no, you miss my point. i don't care if we'll have cyber-chefs 50 years from now. sure, they can be. the future will take care of itself. we really don't know where it's going. anything can happen.

tactical decisions however need to deal with what's immediate. a chef is in less danger of losing their job due to technology than a taxi driver. the lesser restaurant minions already lost their jobs to various machines.

more reasonable is to say-- as the middle class shrinks, how many will be able to support restaurants? not "the terminator chef is coming for your job."

dead_battery 02.05.2015 02:43 PM

i am not actually trying to be a douche about this despite saying "adapt or whine bitches"

its important to point out the realities here especially to working class people.

i try and explain to people about to be parents some simple steps they could make to allow their kids to learn it skills early on and they arent interested.

willful illiteracy is what it is.

asian societies are adapting better than we will.

the rage and contempt we should have for the compu-phobic rentiers of our gerontocracy who will see us all starve in poverty in order to stay on the wrong side of the uncanny valley!

dead_battery 02.05.2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
no, you miss my point. i don't care if we'll have cyber-chefs 50 years from now. sure, they can be. the future will take care of itself. we really don't know where it's going. anything can happen.

tactical decisions however need to deal with what's immediate. a chef is in less danger of losing their job due to technology than a taxi driver. the lesser restaurant minions already lost their jobs to various machines.

more reasonable is to say-- as the middle class shrinks, how many will be able to support restaurants? not "the terminator chef is coming for your job."


the terminator IS coming for your job! for so many jobs that exist right now.


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