i like the wire's coverage and extention, but yes, the writing is very pretentious and pseudo academic.

And it shows how much Robert ripped of (the Real shit) old blues men.

this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvP7dT3Dx0

wins over the real Thriller any day

You wanna hear an unpopular music opinion?

There you go:

NNCK SUCK!

For me, true good music finds a moderation between experimentalization and structure. Sonic Youth, for example, do this beautifully.

An unpopular opinion, I know.

Tell that to the AMG.

I agree, in no way is Whole lotta love crap.

But compared to other Zeppelin greats?

For better or for worse, Led Zeppelin was the first band I got into (thank you suburbanite classic rock radio). And as a six year old just getting into music for the first time, I didn't give half of a fuck who wrote what.

I've owned Brothers in Arms three times. So I can't even blame it on a mistaken purchase.

Haha!

the music to "whole lotta love" is fine. it's the vocals that almost make it
unlistenable to me. led zeppelin have much better songs in their catalog.

yeah robert plant doth vex me so

It's the "Walk Of Life" that gets you every time, eh? Xmas time may be 7 months away, but I know what I'm getting you already. :cool:

So true. I would add that any Yoko Ono album is better than any John Lennon album.


I don't think that's really such an unpopular opinion except amongst a rather small group of 5-10ish fans who post about them regularly. Seems to me just as many or more people around these parts hate them.

i urge you to see them live before you decide if you hate them or not

i agree.

although one could make probably make the best double album if both plastic ono band albums are combined into a single package.

Led Zep would have definitely been better if they were an instrumental band or got a vocalist who wasn't really, really annoying.

haha...zep have to be one of the quintessential "don't judge by lyrics" bands. "the
lemon song" is but the tip of the iceberg.

You don't have to.
You can just go ahead and judge Plant for making screechy bird noises in an attempt to do some "call and response" mimicry to Page's guitar solos...

the only one i can think of right now is (funny how things cycle back 'round)
"whole lotta love" which took here and there from "you need love" by muddy
waters.

Yeah, folk and blues are both steeped in creative theft.
There are many, many other reasons to pick on Robert Plant.
I would like that band so much more had they picked a different singer.

PUSH PUSH!

the cult is a band that goes from ok to really shitty and their only real value lies on the ian astbury vocals.

Experimental Jet Set Trash and No Star can be SY's BEST album, definitely in the top three

That's totally unpopular...
I find this album not so bad, but not spontaneous enough for me.:(

I think just about everyone here is crazy !!!

That's why I LOVE it !!! :D

I like that Zep 'ripped off' old blues. They put their own bent on it..and it fuckin' rocked !!!! The earlier blues stuff that is....LZ I-IV.

*oh yeah, btw, I absolutely love EJSTNS.....not weak at all. And those that diss their 'commercial' album "Dirty"....you're crazy !!!!

Sometimes I regret Gary Young's departure from Pavement, he was better than Steve West. Anyway, the band broke up.

Compared to Daydream Nation or other 80's LP, Dirty sounds more "grunge", "fashion", "MTV-compatible"... But compared to other album from other bands of this period, it's not so commercial, you're right.

Perhaps not their best but a really good album nonetheless.

Guided by Voices have songs that are so short, they are almost comical.

Reggae music is racist.

I can only listen to reggae when I'm high.

And I usually can't follow the lyrics with standard thick accent, that and I'm high.

I don't even compare one cd to another. I just take Dirty for what it is, and I love it. :D

i don't care if a song has biggoted lyrics

Hmm, I'd usually agree, but I draw the fucking line at the "kill the battyman" drivel that dancehall artists love to spout.

After listening to Resonance FM this afternoon, I realise that I have a real weakness for very cheesy 1970's UK advertising jingles.

I find that very loud music spoils it all for me.

When I get around to gigging, I'll make sure the drums don't have to be mic'd up and play everything to that amplitude. I saw Faust last night, with their extreme concerts and bad mood together they started playing a chainsaw against some salvaged metal whilst being mic'd up with someone else playing harsh noise to that volume (not the Faust I know from The Faust Tapes). You can't appreciate music at that volume and the only people that seemed to were smoking their lungs into tarry kippers anyway.

Nonsense, as well you know.

On the Wire debacle of a few pages ago, the Wire can be pretty dull Its constant pushing of an incredibly marginal scene (the LMC/ AMM/ MEV/ company/ Bailey/ Cardew thing) grates a little. The 80-centric writers ('Sonic Youth changed the face of etc') annoy me. This month's edition has a slew on Erasure whilst espousing Depeche Mode - Depeche Mode were shit for people who aren't even cool enough to be goths (with the odd tune here and there that's alright); Erasure were fearlessly brilliant pop - and I've noticed that they can't write about 'academic' music without having a pop at tonal music. Which is, patently, utter arse - just because Webern or Cage or such weren't on the coattails of melody doesn't mean that everyone gave up on the idea. I like a lot of contemporary stuff, but it does annoy me that people who were VERY VERY GOOD INDEED get ignored by the Wire because they didn't inspire certain jazz musicians or electro-acoustic improvisers.

Nonetheless, the Wire very often features some music that I'm interested in, and once one gets the hang of the writing style it's pretty perspicuous - which is to say, the journalism comes the closest of any mag I've read to actually describing the music, rather than its social contingencies. Ok, so there's a few jazz mags (as opposed to porn) which do that, but I'm not terribly interested in reading about contemporary jazz.

If Bob Marley were alive today, he would have made less-than-cheery comments regarding homosexuals (not surprising, since he was an adherant of Ras Tafari).

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