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Yeah. That album is what really threw a wrench into my 2014 list. I felt weird about putting it so on a list for a year that it barely made it into. Then I vacillated... finally I decided it deserved top 10 status no matter what, but I left it out of the top 5 just because of timing. It is a brilliant fucking album. The best R&B release since Channel ORANGE. Possibly... actually, probably, better. I've known I liked D'Angelo since hearing how gritty and dope the non-singles and album cuts on Voodoo were. But I was worried he'd lost his mind a bit. Now I think he's one of the most talented artists in music, and crazy or not, he's released 2 10/10 albums. a perfect record. Fucker's going on tour and I'm fixin' to see him. |
I wore out Graduation last summer and the summer before, before that. think i'll do it again this year too.
only heard bits and pieces of Black Messiah but it sounds fucking great. |
i really like both Future tapes from this year. can't wait for "Ape Shit" his collab tape with Mike Will.
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Every time I see Kanye I just think "Soooooo...... How's that album ya been workin' on?" I want a goddamn track list and release date, like, yester-fuckin'-day! |
Ugghh!!
Kanye's forthcoming (but when?) album, previously titled So Help Me God will be titled SWISH. SWISH? SWISH. God motherfucking dammit. He's havin' a bloody laugh. |
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Hey, this thread's kinda dead in the water.
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is it good?
getting excited for Vince Staples' debut album. also i hope Chance and Rocky are really gonna drop their projects soon. waiting... |
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Is it good? I know Snoop totally dissed my mang man Jah B (Bunny Wailer, the Emperor of Reggae) but I always have a soft spot in my music collection for Snoop records.. |
RE: BUSH
Hmm... I didn't answer right away because I was really excited about this record and he first listen was so... mind boggling... downright shocking really.. that I was sure I was not hearing it right. But I was. And unfortunately, despite some exquisite production, this album is a Snoop album about as much as that Snoop Lion joint was. In other words, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SNOOP WE KNOW AND LOVE. The only actual rapping on the album is on the tracks that feature T.I., or Kendrick and Rick Ro$$. It's like.... Snoop kinda doing an 808's thing, only instead of being iconoclastic and daring and refreshing like 808's, it's pretty much just a dogg turd covered in shoe polish. Snoop croons like some twisted crazy pedo uncle of Frank Ocean's. Literally, all our boy does is fucking sing. He makes some piss poor attempts at being romantic. The lyrics reach new levels of stupidity... "RUA Freak or what/ I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut/ you crack me up!" "My name is snoop dogg/ not to complain/ I gets my groove on/ Do my thing/ My planet's Krypton(?)/ home of the freaks(?)/ come get your moon rocks/ I am a G" (Uhh... you're Superman now? Oh, just a freak.. Got it. I forgot that the Freaks, and their cousins the Shuck & Jivers were aboriginal to Krypton long before it was colonized by Kryptolumbus for the Kryptonians back in star year 0mega99^[1000]. But that doesn't explain why it would be a place to go for moon dust. Just saying.) I'm seriously fucking embarrassed. I've been waiting for a promo of this for months. We all know Snoop is still fully capable of rapping his motherfucking ass off, but this is some Teddy Pendergrass/Lionel Richie lite-funk shit. On the upside, T.I. Holds it down! And Rick Ross and Kendrick do too. But it's basically an album full of Snoop trying to do "Get Lucky"... without Daft Punk. I think it may have some niche value in the long run. But SFAD, I don't think you're going to be fuckin' with this one. "Reinvented Snoop's career" my bloody, hemorrhoidal asshole!! I'm even pissed at Pharell. There are potential "Happy"-esque hits all over this album, so it might be a commercial success, but this sure as hell is not what I was hoping for. |
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Dude, I have a soft spot for old boy too, but do yourself a solid and forget about this album immediately. |
Hold never diss Teddy Pendergrass
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Pharrell actually wrote and produced the entire album.
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been listening to a lot of Vince lately. obviously the Hell Can Wait EP from last year is dope, but don't sleep on Shyne Coldchain Vol. 1 & 2, as well as STOLEN YOUTH which was entirely produced by Mac Miller.
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changed my mind and decided to give the Snoop album a spin. it's actually a fun summer album. i think you just expected too much from Snoop at this point, Sev.
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Ima give it a spin but it sounds to me like what I was afraid it might be, some kind of experiment with that "trap" sound.. now it is not surprising since essentially snoop was part of the invention of original trap themed rap about dealing in the early 90s, and also how with every Snoop album in the past he was willing to experiment with contemporary sounds, whether the No Limit era, or that Blue Carpet Treatment record.. Snoop always tries to rap with new styles |
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Sorry, I got thrown off by Severian's 808 reference..
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808's isn't a trap album either. *confused* |
My bad, I always associated the snare and high hats from old school late 80s 808 patterns with trap.
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Maybe I do "expect too much" from one of the most iconic rappers of my youth. Like, I expect him to write his own verses, and to ... I don't know.. *RAP*
Instead, we got him trying to sing. But he can't really sing, so his voice is padded by "backup singers" singing the exact same thing Snoop's singing to mask some of that painful delivery. But how is it really a snoop album if Pharrel wrote it, and snoop isn't even carrying the primary vocal weight himself? Might as well be a [whatever the female who matched Snoop note for note on every track's name is] album. I'll admit, there are some truly catchy choruses on the record. Some of the songs are nice little pop gems, but this is not a snoop album. P.S. Apparently The Doggfather is considered one of the greatest hip-hop failures of all time. Now I've never really paid attention to the press surrounding that record, but I've always liked it quite a bit. One of my favorite Snoop albums in fact. |
Doggfather is a bad azz record and made the No Limit switch such a surprise..
for me the best are: 1) Doggystyle 2) Tha Doggfather 3) Da Game is To Be Sold Not To Be Told 4) Tha Last Meal 5) Blue Carpet |
Snoop doesn't even remember what Doggystyle sounds like. it's kinda like a different person recorded it, sadly.
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current Snoop is just sad. here's a new interview with him:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/ma...-his-mind.html some highlights: Quote:
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I blame Snoop becoming a youth football coach for his "mellower, less shit talking, sometimes apologizing" version.
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Yeah, no problem. I almost don't want to tell you want I actually meant when k said that because I'm afraid of the rancor I fully expect you to unleash when I tell you... Oh well, here goes. *Deep breath* I was referring to 808's & Heartbreak, the album that spawned an army of hip-hop/alt. R&B hybrids, and more or less birthed the likes of Drake, Travi$ Scott, Iamsu!, etc. That's right... I been talkin' bout Kanye. |
is Rocky's album really coming out next week? i see no promo for it whatsoever. expecting another pushback.. :(
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Where'd you hear this? I've got no incoming promos.. I don't even have any dates on the calendar when promos should be coming in for this one. Is he releasing it electronically first or something? EDIT: HitsDoubleDaily release calendar has had May12th as the release date since April 15th. Yet, it's not available for pre-order on iTunes, and if any promos are en route, they distributors aren't saying shit about it. It looks like there is gonna be a drop on the 12th, though. Crazy. |
I'm not sure you're being fair, 808 had a significant comeback in the "dirty south" era which influenced a significant portion of the mid-2000s and more specifically the evolution of trap..
but hey, I'm not surprised that y'all would attribute everything in rap to Kanye ;) |
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yeah, but what tha fuck is that cover all about!?!? goddamn!! lol! is there some hidden reference in there like Elephant? |
Clearly Snoop likes cunnilingus
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like duh!!! I've been missing a lot of hidden goodies lately. been one of those naïve/airheaded weeks.:p
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looks like it's really happening! :eek: |
the release date is June 2 now though.
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catching up...
ugh June 2nd yeah. Killing me. All the singles have been dope. I love that A$AP Mob is a bunch of perfectionists. But I hate it too. It means as fans we're always waiting. But then we get great shit. But I hate waiting haha. My wife got me Trap Lord for my bday, so I've been listening to it a lot. Really grown on me. Great album. Solid 4/5. Here's my take on it: Quote:
I wish Ferg Forever would get a retail release. F'ing "Doe Active" is amazing haha. @SFAD: I think you misunderstood the whole 808s thing. Sev was saying that Snoop making a "singing" album was in the line of artists that have done the same after Kanye dropped his album called 808s And Heartbreak. When that album hit in 2008 it was like "OMG why is a rapper making an album singing?" But now we've got all these dudes since (Drake ofc, etc) that have pretty much turned the "singing rapper" thing into a genre itself, which was kicked off by 808s And Heartbreak. Has nothing to do w/ trap tho. |
i'm late but this tape:
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Dude, I told you. Keef being dropped by intetscope might be the best thing that could have happened. He's dropped FIVE mixtapes so far (that I'm aware of) in 2015 alone, and he's is absolutely all over the fucking place. Just dropped a new one last week. He's turning into a pretty solid hip hop experimenter. I hope he gets picked up by GOOD Music. Actually, I'm not sure why that hasn't happened yet. Seems like a pretty perfect match if you ask me. |
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I'm not talking about the literal use of the TR-808, which has been vogue in virtually every branch of hip-hop, on and off, since we were all in diapers. I'm talking about the album by Kanye West that set the precedent for albums like Bush. Forget about the actual physical equipment, and listen to my typing noises: Kanye's 2008 minimalist masterpiece was not influential for its use of the Roland TR808, it was influential because it was a total left turn, and prioritized singing and melody over rapping. The mark its left on the genre can be traced to similar projects by countless artists who have tried to embrace singing, melody, and minimalism. Drake called it the record that had the greatest influence on his own sound. I'm not being unfair to the 808 (moneymakin'moneymoneymakin' ... Lol), its just that the actual product has nothing to do with the argument I'm making, which is that this is Snoop's version of "808's & Heartbreak".. The album. ... Throw me a bone man. Tell me you get it. It's not even a value judgment. I'm finding these songs more and more infectious. But they are about as close to The Doggfather or Doggystyle as 808's & Heartbreak was to Graduation. (Obviously nothing in Snoop's canon holds a candle to anything in Yeezy's, but that's another discussion for another day -- I hope. So bad) :D |
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