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!@#$%! 01.30.2020 05:59 PM

sure you would beauregard

choc e-Claire 01.30.2020 06:39 PM

Went along and did the ISideWith and WaPo candidate quizzes. Unsurprisingly, I'm largely a Sanders fangirl - which puts me fairly close to Warren as well. Therefore, c'mon Sanders/Warren ticket.

I'm also apparently close to Yang (via the Washington Post one), but it turns out the stuff we disagree on is fairly important to me. Plus I get a feeling that he might sell out at some point fairly soon after. (That, and the Yang Gang are annoying.)

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
Went along and did the ISideWith and WaPo candidate quizzes. Unsurprisingly, I'm largely a Sanders fangirl - which puts me fairly close to Warren as well. Therefore, c'mon Sanders/Warren ticket.


that’s gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I'm also apparently close to Yang (via the Washington Post one), but it turns out the stuff we disagree on is fairly important to me. Plus I get a feeling that he might sell out at some point fairly soon after. (That, and the Yang Gang are annoying.)


i feel uncomfortable talking about democratic candidates in the dotard’s thread

he’s always making everything about himself, and we’re playing right into his tiny, weak-ass, pussy-grabbing, nature-hating, racist hands

tw2113 01.30.2020 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that’s gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television



i feel uncomfortable talking about democratic candidates in the dotard’s thread

he’s always making everything about himself, and we’re playing right into his tiny, weak-ass, pussy-grabbing, nature-hating, racist hands





Start a "Is Bernie really a serious contender for the Democratic nomination" thread ;)

choc e-Claire 01.30.2020 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that’s gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television

I evidently missed this one. :confused:

Weird, from what I'm gathering they seem to have a lot of similar policies, but they're apparently quite different?

Derek 01.30.2020 09:03 PM

Yang is a dummy. UBI is something that should be looked into but the fact that he wants to carte blanche give everyone a grand a month without any mass systemic changes is irresponsible.

When asked "what if landlords and retailers just put their prices up?" he said "well the market would prevent that". None of it makes any sense. No, the market would not stop greedy landlords nor would it stop Walmart making a loaf of bread $10 when it's the only place in your town. The West is consumed by unfettered capitalism and there is a lot that needs to be done before something like UBI can make sense.

And Warren can go kick rocks. She is a pandering phony. She is nothing like Bernie despite the association. She is in it for herself just like every other establishment dem in the race and would make a horrible leader. Sanders is for the worker and can mobilise a mass progressive movement. I think he will outperform the polls (what was it? like 0.3% between him and Hillary in Iowa in 2016 despite being massively behind in polls? He won New Hampshire with 60%?). The only caveat would be the South but I think he will have enough momentum at that point either way. Hopefully Bloomberg takes away some of Biden's support when he arrogantly storms in during Super Tuesday with his billions of dollars.

Derek 01.30.2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
I evidently missed this one. :confused:

Weird, from what I'm gathering they seem to have a lot of similar policies, but they're apparently quite different?

Warren is a "ethical capitalist", Bernie is a social democrat. While their policies are similar on a surface level, Warren's positions are actually much more compromised. She has flip flopped constantly on major issues and doesn't have anywhere near as good of a track record as Bernie.

She is also a chronic liar. Her beef with Bernie (which conveniently came out when her poll numbers were falling and his were rising the night before a debate) is that apparently Bernie said to her that a woman couldn't win the presidency. Which makes absolutely no sense since there is footage of Bernie saying a woman could be president in 1988 and a few years ago. He also encouraged Warren to run in 2016 and when she didn't, he decided to instead. He also did 47 campaign events for Hillary (and btw, Hillary did only 11 campaign events for Obama in 2008). It makes absolutely no sense that he would say that to her or even think that. It's a lie for political gain and a lot of people lost respect for her after it, even non-Sanders supporters.

She also lied and said she was Native American, with a Harvard Law Journal naming her as the first woman of colour to teach there. She said that she didn't know they were billing her that way, when there are data forms she signed where she put her ethnicity as "American Indian". She lied to get ahead professionally, and took away an achievement from someone who is actually a minority. Not to mention that she wrote a Native American recipe book called Pow Wow Chow that she called old family recipes, when it was actually copied from somewhere else.

Oh she was also a diehard Republican until 1996 at the young impressionable age of 47. She says that she changed her mind when she looked into how people use welfare to try and catch them out, only to find that the majority on welfare were struggling families who couldn't make ends meet. It took her that long to figure out such a basic thing? Wtf?

There are tons of things suspicious about her and I've barely cracked the surface but the point is that she can't be trusted and has no issue with lying to get ahead. That is not leader quality. Bernie has been consistent, honest and principled his entire decades long career. They are not the same at all.

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Start a "Is Bernie really a serious contender for the Democratic nomination" thread ;)

lol of course he’s a serious contender.

i made a thread about the democratic debates some time ago. maybe i’ll dig it out or make one about the primaries.

!@#$%! 01.30.2020 10:54 PM

damn, derek looks like a republican oppo research operative here

Derek 01.31.2020 01:36 AM

If it pays better than my current shitty job then hell I'll do it

Bytor Peltor 01.31.2020 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
sure you would beauregard


I truly would trade Bolton’s sworn testimony for that of Hunter or Joe, because I want to hear it, but I highly doubt it happens!

Actually, I’m looking for a NO VOTE on witnesses and a swift move of a UP or DOWN vote......that vote leading to a MAJORITY ACQUITTAL!!!


Everyone have a great weekend!!!

h8kurdt 01.31.2020 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
I truly would trade Bolton’s sworn testimony for that of Hunter or Joe, because I want to hear it, but I highly doubt it happens!

Actually, I’m looking for a NO VOTE on witnesses and a swift move of a UP or DOWN vote......that vote leading to a MAJORITY ACQUITTAL!!!


Everyone have a great weekend!!!


You write like that all the time? Even when sending business letters?

!@#$%! 01.31.2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
You write like that all the time? Even when sending business letters?

he’s not allowed to write at work

!@#$%! 01.31.2020 08:22 AM

anyway, the republican mafia in the senate seems ready to exonerate their demon overlod without a single witness testifying

sham sham sham... we can all see and remember

ilduclo 01.31.2020 08:32 AM

Trimp DNA.

h8kurdt 01.31.2020 07:05 PM

Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.

!@#$%! 01.31.2020 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.

but that would require a mind, plus enough ability to perform gymnastics... :rolleyes: :D

tw2113 01.31.2020 08:02 PM

they already make the US people bend over backwards while saying "please sir may i have another?"

h8kurdt 02.01.2020 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
but that would require a mind, plus enough ability to perform gymnastics... :rolleyes: :D


More flailing around than gymnastics, right?

choc e-Claire 02.01.2020 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
More flailing around than gymnastics, right?

 

h8kurdt 02.01.2020 03:53 AM

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In an interview with Variety, Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she feels an "urge" to run and beat President Donald Trump.

VARIETY: I know you’re not running for president, but do you ever feel the urge to think: “I could beat Donald Trump if I were running.”

HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah. I certainly feel the urge because I feel the 2016 election was a really odd time and an odd outcome. And the more we learn, the more that seems to be the case. But I’m going to support the people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect the Democratic nominee.

Ah yes, she's doing a great job of supporting Sanders isn't she. Fucking idiot.

h8kurdt 02.01.2020 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
 


Like that but with more stumbling from point to point

choc e-Claire 02.01.2020 03:55 AM

^ :D - solid movie, too

GravitySlips 02.01.2020 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
anyway, the republican mafia in the senate seems ready to exonerate their demon overlod without a single witness testifying

sham sham sham... we can all see and remember



Sounds like a failing democracy. Who the fuck needs witnesses anyway?

!@#$%! 02.01.2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips
Sounds like a failing democracy. Who the fuck needs witnesses anyway?

yep. we’re going to hell.

anyway, let’s give bitey a trophy. or maybe drunkle bob. like this one:

https://youtu.be/eRIdtMlqwNA

(worth the watch)

Bytor Peltor 02.02.2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.


ZERO verbal gymnastics with the Biden Rules:

Senator Joe Biden: “these two cases demonstrate that the Senate may dismiss articles of impeachment without holding a full trial or taking any evidence.

The Constitution does not impose on the Senate the duty to hold a trial. In fact, the Senate need not hold a trial even though the House wishes to present evidence and hold a full trial and the elements of jurisdiction or present”



 


House Chairman Shifty Schiff oversaw SEVENTEEN public witnesses in the House. They gave their testimony which resulted in mostly silencenothingnada!

Shifty Schiff could have allowed the Presidential Defense to cross examine and call witnesses, but Shifty Schiff REFUSED......and that was his prerogative!

The key mistake in this Impeachment sham was when Shifty Schiff admitted, “we have proven our case,” which Presidential Senior Council Jay Sekulow replied, “if you think you’ve proven your case, let’s go to a vote.”

(that’s how you play impeachment poker)

You see, the sole responsibility of presenting the case belonged to the House and the DEMS over promised and under delivered......the DEMS loudly banged the drum of “fairness” while engaging in a process that was contrary to the rule of law or due process!

In his closing, Jerry Nadler referred to the Senator's as juveniles......what kind of desperate strategy was that?

The House delivered two extremely weak Articles of NOTHINGNESS that, in my opinion, will lead to a bipartisan acquittal!!!

Let that bipartisan acquittal thought sink in when you watch our President and First Lady take the field during the National Anthem of today’s Super Bowl......and when your Orange Cheeto delivers the State Of The Union Tuesday night......a mere NINE months from the first Tuesday in November.

 

!@#$%! 02.02.2020 07:39 AM

since when is drunkle bob working class and not lumpen?

tw2113 02.02.2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
^ :D - solid movie, too



which movie is it? legit curious

choc e-Claire 02.02.2020 11:09 PM

Stick It! Rebellious teenage punk fucks up one too many times and gets sent back to a gymnastics academy to straighten up. Lots of fun teenage pettiness (and Bad Brains, Black Flag, etc. t-shirts).

Was a straight-to-DVD movie originally, but it's on one of our channels all the time.

tw2113 02.02.2020 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
Stick It! Rebellious teenage punk fucks up one too many times and gets sent back to a gymnastics academy to straighten up. Lots of fun teenage pettiness (and Bad Brains, Black Flag, etc. t-shirts).

Was a straight-to-DVD movie originally, but it's on one of our channels all the time.



Thanks.

tw2113 02.03.2020 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire
Stick It! Rebellious teenage punk fucks up one too many times and gets sent back to a gymnastics academy to straighten up. Lots of fun teenage pettiness (and Bad Brains, Black Flag, etc. t-shirts).

Was a straight-to-DVD movie originally, but it's on one of our channels all the time.



thanks to the power of google and youtube, all i can say is "don't you dare fart" also, it has Jeff Bridges in it.

!@#$%! 02.03.2020 11:55 AM

the dotard saluting “the great state of kansas” for their superbowl win


smh...


(for those living abroad, plus our local goobers: kansas city is in missouri)


when will this disaster of a presidence finally end?

ilduclo 02.03.2020 12:25 PM

I don't much care for Bill Maher, but this is a gem:

https://www.thewrap.com/bill-maher-c...s-trump-video/

tw2113 02.03.2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the dotard saluting “the great state of kansas” for their superbowl win


smh...


(for those living abroad, plus our local goobers: kansas city is in missouri)


when will this disaster of a presidence finally end?





Either this month next year, or this month 2025

Derek 02.03.2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I basically agree with you yet I disagree that Yang is a dummy. His ideas need serious consideration, with caveats, as per the New York Times article Finland’s Basic Income Trial Boosts Happiness, but Not Employment https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/w...ic-income.html

UBI needs serious consideration. Yang's idea of it is horribly flawed and not rooted in the political context that needs to happen before it can be implemented, and he doesn't understand what that political context is.

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Not so fast!

Sanders had the support of the American Working Class in 2016 (I should know, as I voted for him in the Rhode Island primary that year), but, since then, President Trump has renegotiated American trade out of the pit it had been in for many years, and, per the establishment Wall Street Journal: Life Expectancy Rises in U.S. for First Time in Four Years Lower mortality from cancer, accidents and unintentional injuries; drug overdose deaths fell 4% https://www.wsj.com/articles/life-ex...rs-11580398277

In other words, the American Working Class is no longer dying from establishment policies at the rate they had been, due to TRUMP! And if you believe that Sanders is some sort of Marxist who's going to lead the American Working Class to state power, think again: his support of illegal aliens and the franchise for criminal prisoners clearly shows his preference for what real Marxists call the lumpenproletariat over the Proletariat, which will NOT appeal to the actual Proletariat.
Okay, now I know you're talking bullshit, yet I somehow get why you think that way as wrong as it is. Trump's trade deals will not lift the working class up, his administration actively work so that the rich get richer while using scapegoats such as immigrants to point the finger at. You've been scammed and I hope if it's between Bernie or Trump, you'll see that Bernie actually cares about your wellbeing and Trump does not.

And what's wrong with prisoners voting? Because you're punished for whatever crime by the state you should somehow lose a basic human right? What do you think would happen, all the prisoners would band together to vote in a pro-felony candidate? Nonsense.

!@#$%! 02.03.2020 02:42 PM

the goobers already banded to vote for a pro-felony candidate and the senate is about to arbitrarily exonerate him

Derek 02.03.2020 02:46 PM

America will throw people in prison for years for weed and then tell them they've lost their right to vote in democratic elections.

Bytor Peltor 02.03.2020 03:23 PM

Shifty Schiff: “History will not be kind to Donald Trump..”

Schiff says those who vote to acquit will be tied to Trump “with a cord of steel”

Shifty Schiff was directing that toward his fellow Democrats, who he and Vomit Pelosi fear will become part of the bipartisan vote to acquit President Donald Trump!

 


The Senate trial of Impeachment against President Donald Trump has adjourned!

The Senate remains in session for senators to debate the articles of impeachment tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday. Those speeches will start soon and limited to 10 minutes apiece.

!@#$%! 02.03.2020 03:34 PM

speaking of brain damage...

Bytor Peltor 02.04.2020 06:50 AM

Waking up to see that Iowa is in a meltdown......and we thought they knew how to caucus???

MSNBC reporting that Joe Biden’s lawyers are demanding —NO RESULTS— be reported until they are consulted

Just because Senator Joe Biden could call ahead and delay the departure of his Amtrak train doesn’t mean he can delay the reporting of the results......does it?

Weekend At Bernie’s Campaign announced they were in —FIRST PLACE— last night......looking doubtful this is what the results will show when the Iowa DEMS announce their results today.


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