There are some strong criticisms on Slashdot, the most glaring I think is the pro-copyright checks builtin at the request of RIAA and Hollywood that slows down (and degades) the monitor quality, esp. for HD stuff, if I understood the arguements right.

so what are some of the features of the new one? does it tell you that your looking great in the morning?

it searches fast, or some shit like that. whatever.

Fuck, I just got XP, like, 6 months ago.

This is so not cool.

an estimated 100million people will be using it within 12 months.

Well screw those assholes. 'Course, I'll probably be the even bigger asshole who waits years to get Vista, just out of spite.

keep it. it's fine.

did you get a coupon for vista upgrade with it? or were you upgrading something else?

you see, vista requires monster hardware upgrades, apparently. enjoy what you have & let fools shoot each other in walmart parking lots for a place in the line, eh?

Well actually 6 months ago was when I bought my laptop. Before that, I just used a shared home computer that for whatever reason did not yet have XP.

Problems will ensue when direct x 10 will become the industry standard....

that's fine, xp will be around for YEARS just like win98 and 2000 are still used by tons of machines. support will be available for years too.

if i was to take a guess, i'd say your machine won't be able to run vista due to the inordinate hardware demands. if your machine doesn't say "vista capable" it probably isn't, and even if it were, i'm not sure you would want it anyway... the hype about vista is just a way to get people to fork out MORE money. sure some people may need it, but not everyone, and not right now.

im very glad i switched to mac a year ago. osx is almost exactly what i want and need. when i get on my windows pc it makes me mad.

Yeah, I'm going to wait until I uprgrade my computer, which will be a good while from now. As a gamer, I'm really looking forward to it and DX10.

Exactly. There's barely any benifits for people [yet] to need to upgrade to Vista. I can do everything I intend to do on a computer with a 2000, NT, or Redhat 9 system, maybe even win 98 and I use a computer nearly 12 hours a day for software development, web administration, and graphics design. I don't even feel the dire need to have XP even. They did take a long time making Vista, but they should have found a larger gap to jump. I tried Vista, and I didn't realize too many benifits in comparison to XP. I'll stick to my Fedora fo' sho.

hm... got any recommendations for a good web development prog for linux? something comparable to, say, dreamweaver?

i much prefer my obsolete irix 6.3 desktop

No need to get touchy !@#$%!. I agree that pc's have their purposes and advantages, but let's get serious here. Macs have the upper hand in many ways. They don't only look good, like most pc die hards say. They last longer, crash less and give you the assurance of getting the job done every time. My experiences are that standard pc's are great for doing stuff like internet, web design, DTP, music, gaming(especially), etc.
The thing is that if you want to get a pc to run as smooth as a mac, you need to spend a lot more money than you think. Maybe more than you would pay for a standard G5. I have friends that own well calibrated pc's and they work fantastic, but these guys know what they're doing. Geeks, so to speak. Your average dell, HP, whatever, that you by at walmart will probably give you hassles within a year or two. I personally couldn't be bothered with configuring hardware. I'm only interested in using software applications for video editing and web/design. I've tried using pc's in the past, but wasn't very successful. Maybe it's just me, but I'm happy to use a machine that works as stable as mine.

ps: luxinterior. I wouldn't be disappointed by purchasing XP a couple of months ago. Look at it this way, if you hadn't bought it then, you'd have to pay the full dosh for Vista. Now you'll only have to pay for an upgrade, which is half the price.

eh? touchy? cmon-- don't project. i just think that was you said was bullshit-- misinformation-- hype-- and i called it like i saw it. maybe i should be more polite. "excusez-moi, monsier toko, mais ce que vous dites son des grosses conneries..." oh i hope i haven't maimed the french language. but yes, anyway, my point is that xp (pro, anyway, i hate home) is quite a rock solid little thing and people shouldn't rush off to spend hard-earned money on whatever is the hot marketing campaign of the day.

btw i just finished editing a video project in a dual g5. it was sweet and all, and i've been thinking of getting an additional mac for our office, but do not claim that macs don't crash. oh yes they do. they are just more stylish about the way they do it.

but again, back to my main point-- i see no need for the rush. i don't see vista doing great revolutionary things as compared to xp, except really looking prettier. and for that, i don't see the urge to spend the cash.

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ooooh hm i am thinking about this again. and maybe we're seeing it from different points of view. sure, it would be great to have a good upgrade from xp. but see the things is that from what i've read about it, it's not such a leap. not such a leap at all. so i don't see the urge to go & buy vista. it's not like "oooh i must have this". i really don't. i got xp pro in my 3 machines and i have zero trouble. sure osx is prettier but it can be a pain in the ass. one thing i like about xp is that unlike the mac it lets you get "under the hood" where the mac doesn't. not in any way i can detect anyway. but i do want a mac. i do, i think. i was going to buy a new laptop but i'll get a mac instead. anyway. not rushing out to get vista here. not.

i personally would love a mac over a pc.

my boobies:


still working fine, 11 years after.

Ha! I couldn't have said it better. Touché. Did you know that they even excuse themselves before booting up, and when they come back, everythings still there. Amazing! :D

Yeah, If I were you, I wouldn't by Vista just yet.
I don't have a clue about french, by the way.