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Tokolosh 07.03.2007 04:11 AM

Looks like someone's feet just got trampled. :)

sarramkrop 07.03.2007 04:17 AM

You're skating on thin ice, callus eater.

Tokolosh 07.03.2007 04:25 AM

 

... and you can't take a joke.

davenotdead 07.03.2007 04:25 AM

yawn...i couldve done that in second grade...i think i did, actually....

Toilet & Bowels 07.03.2007 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
Looks like someone's feet just got trampled. :)



gross, put your dick away

Rob Instigator 07.03.2007 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
But, it could be argued, both Van Gogh's Chair and Emin's Bed remain significant largely because of people's interest in the artists' personal/public image and the ways in which that image corresponds with a certain notion of the 'tortured artist'.


it could, and that is the beauty of a wholly subjective endeavor such as art or music.

I just find that bed piece EASY. easy to grasp, easy to do, easy to dismiss, easy to never in any way affect anyone ever, other than reminding them of stuff they did on their bed.

Saatchi got assfucked on that one.

I have a recreation of toilet paper I wiped my ass with. you think he would buy it?

Rob Instigator 07.03.2007 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by soapbars
although i agree with rob for the most part,

the fact that its provocing such a strong reaction from him, suggests it actually is saying something,


not necessarily. it could just as likely suggest that the piece is saying NOTHING hence my revulsion at such insipid inanity.

sarramkrop 07.03.2007 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
not necessarily. it could just as likely suggest that the piece is saying NOTHING hence my revulsion at such insipid inanity.


Well said. I can't rape you everyday, but consider yourself penetrated. On that Tracy Emin bed.

Rob Instigator 07.03.2007 09:24 AM

does she have pubic lice?

Oh god. I did a search image search for pubic lice. i did not want to see that!

Toilet & Bowels 07.03.2007 09:25 AM

that's what drives me insane, the public is revolted by the success of the inane works of emin, but the art establishment sees sees only the uproar and fails to grasp why people are disgruntled by her accolades.
she's representing the UK in the fucking venice biennale this year for christ's sake!

!@#$%! 07.03.2007 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
no, maybe you've been checking out some shitty galleries though?


maybe i've been looking at internet pictures of student shows :eek:

:p

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
that's what drives me insane, the public is revolted by the success of the inane works of emin, but the art establishment sees sees only the uproar and fails to grasp why people are disgruntled by her accolades.
she's representing the UK in the fucking venice biennale this year for christ's sake!


don't be jealous.

sarramkrop 07.03.2007 09:36 AM

Cutting edge has ruined art, simply by:

1 - Failing to make the earth shake.

2 - Giving presumptuous and utterly talentless people the tools for creation.

3 - Failing to make a serious point about anything other than the artist's own vanity.

!@#$%! 07.03.2007 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Cutting edge has ruined art, simply by:

1 - Failing to make the earth shake.

2 - Giving presumptuous and utterly talentless people the tools for creation.

3 - Failing to make a serious point about anything other than the artist's own vanity.


that's cos all the smart people are in the sciences these days.

sarramkrop 07.03.2007 09:44 AM

For as long as they don't start looking at their microscopes thinking that they could turn them into art, I'm totally happy to accept that.

ALIEN ANAL 07.03.2007 09:47 AM

this has been one of the good threads this week
thanks for the interesting read

Florya 07.03.2007 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Of course it's not, and I seriously think that anyone who does think that it is art quite possibly hates art in general. Even arguing about it is pointless, in this time and age. Seriously, with all the steps forward that humans achieved over the years, I cannot understand why some people are so mentally lazy.


I think that you have a very narrow view of what is art and what is not. That view seems to be that if you can see it's artisitic merit then it is art, and if you don't like it then it isn't art. That's what's known as an opinion.

Just because people don't agree with your opinion doesn't make them wrong, and just because you don't like certain artworks, that doesn't lessen their merit as works of art.

Personally, I can't stand a single thing that Mark Rothko has produced, but I can accept that he is an artist and that what he produces is art.

Not all art is produced for your approval.

floatingslowly 07.03.2007 10:38 AM

Florya, are you Lethrneck4 or do you just share the exact same "Atari says:" sig style?

not that I REALLY care......just wondering because the resemblance is uncanny.

sarramkrop 07.03.2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Florya
I think that you have a very narrow view of what is art and what is not. That view seems to be that if you can see it's artisitic merit then it is art, and if you don't like it then it isn't art. That's what's known as an opinion.

Just because people don't agree with your opinion doesn't make them wrong, and just because you don't like certain artworks, that doesn't lessen their merit as works of art.

Personally, I can't stand a single thing that Mark Rothko has produced, but I can accept that he is an artist and that what he produces is art.

Not all art is produced for your approval.


The opposite is true, I'm afraid. In fact if it wasn't because there isn't always time, I'd tend to check out as many works of art as I could. That hardly qualifies as the point of view of a narrow minded person, unless you want to argue otherwise.

Toilet & Bowels 07.03.2007 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
maybe i've been looking at internet pictures of student shows



well there you go, student shows suck

!@#$%! 07.03.2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
well there you go, student shows suck


ha ha ha, i was referring to yours, which porky visited.

but i didn't mean to throw crap at you, except to the extent that i thought you were taking this thread too seriously.

 


really-- who gives a shit what people post about art on the internet? think the tate curators are looking for answers here?

if you're an artist, you'd be better off defeating your enemies with art rather than with inane discussions. :o

cmon, now go post us some good art.


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