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Inhuman 05.11.2006 11:10 PM

JenntheBen pretty much said it all. My favs are:

antipop consortium
Dalek
Mr. Lif
ELP


Edit: How the fuck did I miss N.W.A? They pollute my sig image...

val-holla-ing 05.11.2006 11:12 PM

i forgot to mention that anything "anticon"=garbage.

Everyneurotic 05.11.2006 11:40 PM

alright, i'm listening to fear of a black planet right now, so i'm in the mood for this.

big fucking ups for name-dropping LIL' KIM AND BIG MUTHAFUCKIN' PUN, that guy was awesome!!!

alright let's see:

a tribe called quest...awesome
nwa, of course.
i really liked this song i heard by this dude called something da damaja
fugees were awesome
cypress hill
i liked a couple digeable planets
mf doom
early outkast, the last album i liked by them was stankonia
public enemy
the wu tang
mobb deep used to be baaad!!!
grandmaster flash
dmx
some juvenile
some jay-z
the slim shady lp
early eve
three 6 mafia
some house of pain
death row-era snoop dogg
dr dre
EDIT:: i can't believe i forgot rah digga, my favorite female rapper.

i think that's pretty much what i liked

krastian 05.11.2006 11:49 PM

Yeah I'm surprised nobody mentioned Cypress Hill. Their first 3 albums are great.

Everyneurotic 05.11.2006 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
Yeah I'm surprised nobody mentioned Cypress Hill. Their first 3 albums are great.


they are still decent, not groundbreaking awesome as before but good, i don't mind their new shit, really.

krastian 05.12.2006 12:01 AM

I think their new stuff is ok.....I guess it just don't compare to you know the classic stuff like "When the Shit Goes Down," "Hits From the Bong," "Boom Biddy Bye Bye."

Patrique 05.12.2006 01:42 AM

Here's some general comments on stuff.

Love seeing the mentions of Quasimoto- Madlib is amazing and find EVERYTHING he's done, especially if you like jazz. The Quas stuff is most interesting because it's so off-the-wall and adventurous, not to mention funny as hell.

I honestly can't stand a lot of that backpacker-catering Def Jux-esque shit like Aesop, Atmosphere (godawful, although the Felt stuff is okay due to Murs), El-P...Cannibal Ox are the exception to the rule. The Cold Vein is an absolute classic and El-P's production on there is the only reason I don't want to kill him.

Wu-Tang are my favorites ever. I say we have a thread just quoting the best Wu verses...36 Chambers is tied with Illmatic as my favorite rap album of all time, not a weak track, verse or even note on the whole thing.

If anyone digs on Nas but doesn't like some of the shitty beats he has, check out the recent Living Legends v1 mixtape he put out with DJ Dirty Harry, some of his best verses (and some new ones as well) over classic beats. Go to datpiff.com, tons of free mixtapes there and well worth the effort.

Anyone else listen to Lupe Fiasco? I've heard two of his mixtapes and one or two tracks off his leaked album and the kid has definite skill. He gets a little too self-consciously dorky at times but his wordplay and flow are amazing, plus he's got half the industry on his dick seemingly so his beats are always going to be good.

Slick Rick is amazing. Great Adventures is the most essential but don't sleep on his other albums; The Art of Storytelling, in particular, was a tremendous comeback album.

Pete Rock & CL Smooth are right out of the same early-90s NYC scene that lead to Wu-Tang, Nas, Big L, etc., and they could hang with the best. Pete's arguably my favorite producer ever. Go find Mecca & the Soul Brother and The Main Ingredient NOW. Two of the best rap albums ever.

Okay, that's enough disconnected stream-of-consciousness babbling about rappers for the moment.

A Thousand Threads 05.12.2006 01:52 AM

saw Kool Keith and King 45 last weekend

2 legends

wasn´t really impressed by King 45´s set, kinda boring.

But Kool Keith put on a really good live show

_slavo_ 05.12.2006 02:06 AM

I like Dalek
and I like Techno Animal
and...ummm...Edan and Mr.Lif and Tribe Called Quest
and i don't know why but I dig Notorious B.I.G.'s flow

he spits as a muthafucka

that's for rap I guess

val-holla-ing 05.12.2006 10:15 AM

prefuse 73 is good shit, too. it's usually beats and instrumentals, but he gets people to guest on some tracks, too. his new album, "security screenings", is really good.

Everyneurotic 05.12.2006 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
I think their new stuff is ok.....I guess it just don't compare to you know the classic stuff like "When the Shit Goes Down," "Hits From the Bong," "Boom Biddy Bye Bye."


oh but that goes without mention, but compare their newish tracks to those by 90's period run dmc and others, and comparatively, they come off way better.

Trasher02 05.12.2006 10:35 AM

here's an idea, let's not talk rep.

Disgruntled Youth 05.12.2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I love Apartment 223.

Have you heard the Mr. Nogatco stuff yet?


Not yet, I've heard the Project P shit & it's hot, I'd like to hear the Nogato stuff but all with due time.

Toilet & Bowels 05.12.2006 07:57 PM

there was a hiphop thread pretty recently where people mentioned a lot of good stuff.
here: http://216.70.73.169/gossip/showthread.php?t=968

don't bother with kid koala until you've checked out lots of other hiphop, he's ok but there are plenty of things that are a lot better.

here are my top 11 MCs in no particular order

chuck d
the guru
kool keith
kool g rap
percee p
ghostface
mf doom
gift of gab
nas (but only because of illmatic)
sir menelik
erick sermon

top 11 producers

the bomb squad
dj premier
the rza
dj spinna
pete rock
dj shadow
chief xcel
q-tip
mf doom
el-p
madlib

Inhuman 05.12.2006 08:32 PM

I love DJ Shadow, he reminds me of Sixtoo (another one I forgot to mention)

nomadicfollower 05.12.2006 08:36 PM

Yeah, DJ Shadow is the shit. Organ Donor is the best.

atsonicpark 05.13.2006 05:22 PM

Anticon rules.

Everyneurotic 05.13.2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
...

top 11 producers

the bomb squad
dj premier
the rza
dj spinna
pete rock
dj shadow
chief xcel
q-tip
mf doom
el-p
madlib


i agree with most of your list, except for the few a haven't heard/noticed them before. i'd add dj dangermouse, the guy knows his shit. also afrika bambataa and dj jazzy jeff (too bad will smith always ruins he's beats with his god awful rapping)

i thought about adding dj shadow to my list but i remember discussing him whithin hip hop with someone and then agreeing that he's plainly something all together different, even if he does come out and he's influenced by hip hop.

Confusion is Dante 05.14.2006 04:20 PM

http://www.articolo31.com/videoclip/
Articolo 31 is big in Italy, and they fuse rap with rock/punk/funk.....whatever. They are great! The link above will take you to a videoclip page.......I'll suggest 'Domani Smetto', 'Spirale Ovale', Vai Bello', and 'Guapa Loca'.

nomadicfollower 05.14.2006 04:32 PM

MF Doom.


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