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Toilet & Bowels 11.25.2007 10:56 AM

i decided to stop using the term krautrock, because as far as music goes, what does a group like cluster have in common with ash ra tempel? and how can you say amon duul II are more kraut than neu or faust, how does a statement like that make any sense?

Savage Clone 11.25.2007 10:59 AM

I've taken to saying "early 70s German music" a lot of the time.
I almost use the term "krautrock" more often to describe modern groups with that influence (from wherever) than I do in reference to the original German bands.

demonrail666 11.25.2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
how can you say amon duul II are more kraut than neu or faust, how does a statement like that make any sense?


I said that because I hear far more KR bands from that period that sound like them than I do bands like Can, Neu or Faust. Amon Duul may not have been the most groundbreaking KR band, but they're arguably the most representative. And I stress the word arguably there.

Savage Clone 11.25.2007 12:19 PM

If you only stick to Yeti and Phallus Dei, perhaps.

jonathan 11.26.2007 10:11 AM

What I love about Krautrock is that no two bands sound exactly alike, unless they share members. While this rules, it's hard to recommend records that definte the Krautrock sound.

I think starting with Faust IV is probably wise. Can's first few albums and the Can DVD are also probably good places to start. Everyone always brings up Neu!, but I think that all of Neu's releases pale in comparison to Harmonia's first release Musick Von Harmonia; everything about Neu! is present in Harmonia excpet it's all done with synth's and it's just magic. Amon Duul II fucking rules hard; Yeti and Tanz Der Lemming are my favorite. I've always thought of Xhol Caravan as being waaay underrated; I would look into their album Electrip.

It's a fun genre, get into it.

o o o 08.28.2008 03:35 PM

for those of you who have this TV channel:

there's a documentary on krautrock/70's german rock that just started on Arte... it's called "Roboter essen kein Sauerkraut"...

and after that there's a movie called Deadlock with a soundtrack from Can... I have never seen that one but wanted to...

al shabbray 08.28.2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
A lot of these albums have been reissued on CD and/or 180g vinyl.
If you want originals, you will pay through the nose. I once sold an original copy of Can's "Monster Movie" for over $1800.00.


what the fuck???

Ive got 3 original can records (vinyl) in my collection, the others are cd.
is there a place where I can look what they would be worth it?

al shabbray 08.28.2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by o o o
for those of you who have this TV channel:

there's a documentary on krautrock/70's german rock that just started on Arte... it's called "Roboter essen keine Sauerkraut"...

and after that there's a movie called Deadlock with a soundtrack from Can... I have never seen that one but wanted to...


right now????? (I am too lazy to switch it on)

o o o 08.28.2008 03:42 PM

yes, right now.
i guess i should have started a new thread, instead of bumping this old one...

al shabbray 08.28.2008 03:45 PM

damn my mega drive fucked up all saved channels....shit

al shabbray 08.28.2008 04:29 PM

^^^^^
germany got only one good phase of music which was the KR phase. the saddest part is that almost nobody in germany got into it

o o o 08.28.2008 05:10 PM

Hmm... the documentary wasn't great.

Predictably, I liked the sections about the bands I like, and was very bored during the sections about bands I don't like... The problem is that they were basically doing one band after the other (5 minutes for Amon Düül, 5 minutes for Can, 5 minutes for Scorpions, etc.) so I always seemed to be waiting for someone I like to show up - there was a very long section in the second half with only bands I was not interested in - or i was frustrated when someone I like disappears from the screen after a few images/words/sounds.

And the bastards did not mention Faust at all!

Good thing I had something to read at the same time.

Semperet 08.29.2008 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I need to remember to upload an amazing latter-day Can Peel Session that I have downloaded from a website a while ago. The drumming is most impressive.


Here you are. Dug it out because I played it last Saturday and it is that good. Hope the link's still alive.

There's a lot more here than the Peel Sessions, but you should buy all the available stuff, you cheap bastids!

http://glowingraw.blogspot.com/2007/...ap-laughs.html

Everyneurotic 08.29.2008 10:31 AM

anybody know if can's soundtracks got reissued on vinyl?

demonrail666 08.29.2008 10:32 AM

Krautrock. Aren't they a German band?

Savage Clone 08.29.2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
anybody know if can's soundtracks got reissued on vinyl?


I picked up an EXACT reissue (most likely not legit), down to the German Liberty labels, recently for $16.00. By "recently" I mean a year and a half ago.
I can hook you up with a German or UK original though. The UK one has different cover.

al shabbray 08.29.2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Krautrock. Aren't they a German band?

lolzn

afterthefact 08.29.2008 02:42 PM

Haha, when I first looked at this thread I thought it said Kid Rock; I'm glad it didn't...

I love me some krautrock, but anything I think I would suggest has already been covered - Can, Amon Duul II, Faust, etc...

Ash Ra Tempel is good, and Cluster... I didn't read them all so I don't know if these were mentioned yet...





(YAY for elipsis!...)



EDIT:
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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i decided to stop using the term krautrock, because as far as music goes, what does a group like cluster have in common with ash ra tempel? and how can you say amon duul II are more kraut than neu or faust, how does a statement like that make any sense?


ha, you mentioned them both in one post :)

atsonicpark 08.29.2008 02:44 PM

check out Panko Musik's "weiles so schon perlt"

afterthefact 08.29.2008 02:45 PM

I will say, somebody who has an extensive krautrock lp collection is more imressive to me than maybe any other genre of music.


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