Yeah, they're pretty good, and I don't want this to turn into a Wolf Eyes discussion, just making a note about bands with like a 100+ releases after 11 years together.

What can I say? We're all piled high on truth mountain. The last peak in clarity's chain.

Eh, Sunburned Hand of the Man appeals to me in a way few other bands do. I buy all their stuff I can get my hands on and I like the vast majority of it.

I'm pretty sure I'm not pretending to like anything.

Well, good. And I'm glad this album appeals to you.

Actually Fire Escape really isn't one of my favorites at all. Not bad, but not particularly good either. I still think the vast majority of their music is worth my time, though.

I'm definitely going to check out their other stuff very soon.

In the mean time, this thread needs a picture of Sherilyn Fenn:

so what?

But I wrote it better than you did. Ok?

hey adam,

it would make you seem more intelligent and less like a pretentious dick if you stopped saying that people only pretend to like this music.

i don't give a shit one way or the other if you like it or not. and i can surely say that the rest of the group doesn't care if you (or anyone else) like it or not.

it's improv, and with it comes all the pitfalls and mistakes of a music that doesn't fit comfortably into everyone's ears.

but to classify everyone who is into this as somehow duped, you only make yourself look self aggrandizing and less that intelligent.

love,
paul

I didn't say everyone who liked it pretended to like it.

My problem is mainly with critics/reviewers... if I hear a lot about an album, listen to it, and don't like it.. I'll look back at reviews that an album got, to see if there was something I have missed when listening. Yet the weird thing is, EVERY SINGLE REVIEW of this album that I've read has said it's a work of genius... which I don't believe at all, I don't even think 10 people in the world would think it's genius, so I get this vibe that people think they have to like it or are scared to not like it. It's like a lot of things on this message board -- people afraid to talk shit about Thurston or something. It's ridiculous. You can be critical of bands, even ones you like. Maybe I'm just too honest.

If you or someone else honestly likes this shit, more power to you. I've obviously missed the boat. But to my ears and my musical education, this shit just sounds like nothing -- literally, NOTHING. But, again, even if you're releasing nothing, if you release enough nothing and for a long time, people will think it's something. But, again, I'm not going to diss this whole band's output because I haven't heard it! All I know is, if it's anything like this, it's awful bullshit.

To be continued.

sunburned blow very hot and cold with me but fire escape is pretty good.

I dig Z (the first half before it devolves into electronic mush) and I LOVE the Unmuzzled Ox cassette they did with Paul Flaherty.

hey...bloodyminded! love the avatar whorefrost, have you seen them live?

i have yet to hear this one but i dont like fourtet much so i probably wont.
i have sunburned's s\t which has some really great moments. and i have heard jaybird and headress, both of which i need to listen to more. i really like the new weird america scene, except that a lot of the great bands are not even american.
NNCK has some really brilliant albums, i like em when they are folkier and less psycodelic, my two favorite albums of theirs are sticks and stones and the one with embyro.
Kemialliset Ystävät are finnish, i think, and are amazing.
mv and ee are great,
that british band is amazing, the one trhat is sunburned's sister band. cant think of their name-some kind of ensemble.
in other words the whole free\k folk thing is really great and interesting, but like with every genre there is crap and there is not crap

Sunburned in my mind can either be great, or mindless shit. I have yet to hear Fire Escape, but I my favorite albums are Jaybird, No Magic Man, A Taste of Never and Wildanimal. If you are going to listen to other Sunburned releases, I'd recommend on of these. I've yet to hear Headdress myself too though.

I have indeed, fantastic show which resulted in everyone getting thrown out the venue and the next scheduled band (Family Battle Snake) not getting to play.. Bloodyminded rule

sherilyn fenn, emmmm audrey from twin peaks, i came in my pants when she tied that cherry stem with her tongue.


david lynch loves beautiful women in his movies.

haven't heard it but i have a bad feeling about it.

ohh man!!! makes me want to see them again!

i saw them play here in an internet café turned goth disco at night to like 10 fans and several terrified patrons wanting to dance to nine inch nails and korn remixes. fucking amazing!

I saw them in a Polish pub in Edinburgh so there was some similar bemusement from the indiginous patrons. Sorry for sort of hijacking yr Sunburned thread dudes.

Back on topic: has anyone made it through the four sides of Wedlock? Is it worth it?

i'm surprised that nobody knows earth do eagles do...well, actually i'm not that surprised.

it's like someone switched their weed and gave them speed instead.