top 10 sludge metal records (just traditional or stoner sludge, so no neurosis or isis can be included):
1. eyehategod-dopesick
2. corrosion of conformity-animosity
3. crowbar-obediense through suffering
4. dystopia-human=garbage
5. eyehategod-take as needed for pain
6. grief-miserably ever after
7. weedeater-god luck and good speed
8. buzzov*en-to a frown
9. electric wizard-dopethrone (way more doom than sludge obviously, but the sludge is there and this record is just too good to ignore, i was also considering putting sleep's holy mountain here, but theyre not sludge at all, so fuck it)
10. antiseen-noise for the sake of noise

Electric Wizard are too good.

I'm just getting into it so I don't know many bands, but I do enjoy Weedeater and eyehategod.

I just found a pretty good looking comp. for download.
http://sludgeswamp.blogspot.com/search?q=crowbar

And I just listened to some crowbar, very fucking excelent.

Yeah, like eyehategod, crowbar are one of those bands its easy to get sort of obsessed with. there's a seriousness there that goes beyond the mere need to smoke yourself silly. not that that isn't a major part of them either, of course.

i know the formulas, but in reality, it's not such a radically different kind of shit than doom or stoner. it's something for the really anal, you know? "see how they stop and let the guitar feedback? that's doom but hear how they pick up the speed at minute 1:37? that's sludge".

seriously, speaking of something that they use as a point of reference, the crusty vocals (influenced by amebix and nausea, etc.) don't sound too dissimilar to some black metal folk which is in itself a point of reference of many doom bands.

i really don't see the point in differenciating grief from monarch, for example, besides song lenghts.

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weedeater are ok but they always seemed like ehg junior, for some reason.

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and pantera, i love them but can see why people don't like them; they were a very important band for me growing up. i'd be hijacking the thread if a started talking about them...also, the great southern trendkill debuted at like number 3 on the billboard charts and sold millions, this is an album featuring SETH PUTNAM from ANAL CUNT in it.

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anyway, anyone else into kylesa?

thanks for the link

Earth 2 is currently blowing my mind.
And I'm listening to it while sober.

Thanks for the link, listening now.

the great southern trendkill is fucking amazing.

Yeah, that's sort of true. I think certain bands associated with the NOLA scene, particularly Crowbar and EHG seperate themselves though, as well as the old UK band Iron Monkey. But yeah, there are times when the 'differences' between Stoner, Doom and Sludge seem quite negligable.

thats an amazing record but its dirge, not sludge.

and no one mentioned UpsideDown Cross who were making heavy dirge when many of you were still in pampers. Damn I'm old.

I didn't know dirge was even a term. I always described Earth 2 as drone. I'd probably even say Earth 2 is the drone record.

so what about pigfuck?

Ahhh, my beloved Pigfuck ... swoons ... and then shuffles off to find copy of Soul Crusher.

can we just talk about down tempo heavy shit and stop with the sub sub sub genreing?

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so no one else likes kylesa, eh? good band, not mindblowing but they are decent.

Er, you sold your copy of "Soul Crusher" to me a few years ago, and very nice it is too. ;)

i wish i could buy that one.

I'm listening to Electric Wizard's Dopethrone right now, and I'll probably burn a copy of Take as Needed for Pain here in a bit. I had heard Witchcult Today by EW, but I'm only on track three of Dopethrone and this record is obviously waaay better.

I also really enjoy Dystopia.

I've been slowly been getting into the genre and related genres for the passed few months. It might become my new obsession.

Not totally related, but somewhat related... Pentagram.

Pentagram are awesome. Not really Sludge, but who gives a fuck about that? Great band.