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Everyneurotic 07.16.2008 10:15 PM

listen to non's might and god & beast.

also loopool does great spoken word noise albums...he's very influenced by boyd rice, though.

ohh and the priest they called him, burroughs with kurt cobain on guitar, best thing cobaine ever was involved; that shit is spooky.

acousticrock87 07.16.2008 10:20 PM

I think what keeps me interested in spoken word stuff is the background's impact on the words. I think there should absolutely be something in the background, whether it's natural ambience, planned sounds, or whatever.

But instead of having the sounds only reflect the words, try to get it so that the sounds also affect the words. It can be planned, obviously, since it will be pre-written, but have some kind of interplay between the ambience and the words. It will wake people up if they start to zone out. It can be light overdubbed voices, loud abrasive sounds that suddenly quiet--just something that might alter the mood of what you're saying and force a mood on your words. You'll need to be acting to an extent, and acting is part reaction.

Derek 07.17.2008 08:03 AM

Glice is silly, atsonicpark might have a natural charm to writing.

Toilet & Bowels 07.17.2008 08:40 AM

based on reading people's posts here i'd say the only person who has an obvious talent for writing is jenn benningfield

Everyneurotic 07.17.2008 10:10 AM

am i the only one who doesn't really care about the actual text on spoken word albums?

but then again, i hardly care about lyrics so i'm probably the only one.

Glice 07.17.2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Glice is silly, atsonicpark might have a natural charm to writing.


There's a lot of vagueness to that post. You'd describe the coastline of the Isle of Harris as having 'Natural charm'. You'd describe shit writing as 'shit'.

MellySingsDoom 07.17.2008 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
based on reading people's posts here i'd say the only person who has an obvious talent for writing is jenn benningfield


+1 on that, T&B.

atsonicpark 07.17.2008 11:11 AM

Sorry, I guess I meant to say, I dunno if I'm a good writer in other people's eyes. Of course I like my writing. And I really couldn't care less what people think of an album I'm going to record, because not many people will hear it anyway. I'm just not completely familiar with the spoken word genre and was curious how you judge whether an album in this field is good or not. No biggy.

sarramkrop 07.17.2008 11:23 AM

Yep, Jenn is a total natural when it comes to writing. I'm a fan too.

PAULYBEE2656 07.17.2008 11:32 AM

just go for it.. how about "fuck the writing" and just record whatever the fuck comes out of your mouth... not the whole thing but for a track or two.....

play with the microphones and distances... like screaming like a bitch from miles away and whispering like a baby from near....... simple shit sounds sooo much better than layers and layers of obvious effects.... and no, im not accusing ss of doing that before im just giving an opinion......

im sure adam will think of something pretty cool...... a backward spoken album maybe??? a spoken album entirely recorded in braille!

atsonicpark 07.17.2008 11:39 AM

In retrospect, I shouldn't have even said that I'm thinking of doing a spoken word album. But yeah, I sound condescending saying this, but I'm not going to release it if it isn't good in my mind anyway. I try my hardest to stress quality control with everything I do. But yeah, I was more looking for... how should a spoken word album be structured.. what should the length be.. stuff like that.

Thanks for everyone's replies though some of you have some good stuff to say.

The only spoken word stuff I've heard is Burroughs, Peter Sotos, and Jandek's spoken stuff but I really enjoy all of that...

MellySingsDoom 07.17.2008 11:41 AM

^^^The second mention of P Sotos here in less than a week! Ye Gods.

atsonicpark 07.17.2008 11:42 AM

hahaha.

I think it's been more than a week.. but yeah. His spoken word stuff is.... uh.. crazy.

MellySingsDoom 07.17.2008 11:43 AM

"Interesting" is putting it mildly - his "collage" stuff on the Whitehouse LPs would seriously piss off quite a lot of people here, I reckon...

Glice 07.17.2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAULYBEE2656
just go for it.. how about "fuck the writing" and just record whatever the fuck comes out of your mouth... not the whole thing but for a track or two.....

play with the microphones and distances... like screaming like a bitch from miles away and whispering like a baby from near....... simple shit sounds sooo much better than layers and layers of obvious effects.... and no, im not accusing ss of doing that before im just giving an opinion......

im sure adam will think of something pretty cool...... a backward spoken album maybe??? a spoken album entirely recorded in braille!


Maybe this is me misunderstanding things... that sounds like sound-art to me, which I don't have a problem with. Spoken word, to me, suggests stuff like Ivor Cutlor or Bob Cobbing (and even that's tenuous).

atsonicpark 07.17.2008 11:49 AM

Yeah...

PAULYBEE2656 07.17.2008 05:09 PM

yeah, you are probably right glice.... not the way adam intended im sure...

hey adam, have you heard the aidan john moffat album, he of arab strap... thats a fucking damn fine spoken word album!

atsonicpark 07.17.2008 05:31 PM

no but i'm getting it now thanks to you :)

MellySingsDoom 07.17.2008 05:34 PM

atsonicpark - have you heard the "Nothing Here But The Recordings" album by Burroughs? It was released by Throbbing Gristle in 1980?/1981?, and would be right up your street, I reckon.

atsonicpark 07.17.2008 06:06 PM

i'll check it out. i'm only familiar with dead city radio and call me burroughs.


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