Nah, the early stuff definitely doesn't rock at all; it's definitely noise pop.

I think they kinda have "country rock" vibes sometimes.

But yeah they are the kings of good melody either way.

I already said that.

Oh. Well, still.

I'd also like to say that "Gold Soundz" is one of those songs I've put on every mix tape I ever made for a girl...

I also put "Car" by Built to Spill on many mix tapes. That song's awesome.

car is awesome.

I love texas never whispers by the pavement

don;t hold yr breath too long, this tunnel is a texas mile




plus I love gangsters and pranksters!!!

I got all this harvard LSD why won't anybody touch me?


and as far as the whole pop/rock thing, if you think pavement even at their most melodic is pop and not rock you shoudl play it for people who actually only listen to radio friendly rock and pop and they will tell you, as they have told me countless of times, that they find nothing POP in pave,ent at all, and frankly cannot stand it cuz it is so NOT poppy!

Eh?

It has all the characteristics of pop.... and it definitely doesn't ever rock out, that's all I'm saying. So, it's more pop than rock if there's any argument here. But sure I see what you're saying.

Yeah, Gold Soundz is their best.
The guitar solo is simply... magical.
The video clip is awesome too.

Why do you say it doesn't rock out ? Because the guitars don't sound that heavy ? Because of the singing ?
Well, I don't know. They're still a rock band for me.

I guess you're right, it is "alternative rock" of course. I was just responding to Rob who said it's "JUST ROCK people" or whatever. I guess I do generally equate rock music in general with heavy guitars and such, yeah.

Like, I wouldn't really describe.. oh... My Bloody Valentine (for a lack of a better example)... as a rock band. But they have all the elements that Pavement has I guess. I dunno.

Fuck it, it doesn't matter.

JMC Retro is the second best Pavement song ever.

Ah ah ah, are you sure, Danny ? It 's not really a song, no ?

I am sure!

My second favorite is probably "You're Killing Me".

elevate me later goddamnit!!!!

UI just finished hearing crfooked rain CR again

fuck yeah

deeelicious

rock rock rock
rock rock
rock

Kentucky Cocktail !!!
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=DSnmXm...eature=related

The 2cd version of this is very worth paying the money for.

Wow, that was amazingly bad grammar, so bad im leaving it in.

Dudes its clearly "Pueblo (Beach Boys)". :D

It's now a competition to name the most esoteric Pavement track out there!

anything with the word NOISE in it is FAR far removed from POP pap man

Just dropping by on a Pavement thread like i always do. My ears a ringin. Hi.