audacity is shite but it is really simple, so people use it for that reason

reason has some good sounding drum patches, and is very easy to programme if you have some midi controllers. it is all about velocity layering though to get the right feel. and rather than writing the parts in the sequencer record it in via midi and you playing. i have used reason very effectively live in conjuction with yamaha dt-20 triggers on my drum heads to really thicken up the sound i was going for in the particular track. but in the end unless you can play the part in, and know how to use velocity layering and velocity cross fading very well, drum machines have no soul. just listen to nailbomb's point blank as an example of souless drum machine....

Genghis Tron drums machines sound like real drums most of the time... a friend of mine actually thought it was a drummer when I made him listen

I used to want a drum machine, because a) I wouldn't have to give up money to the drummer b) I don't know anyone who plays drums and likes similar music.
I've decided I'll learn to play drums myself, or use some Einstuerzende Neubauten style percussion.

No offense, but your friend's deaf or has no idea what a real drummer sounds like. Genghis Tron doesn't sound like real drums in the least. (I don't think they're supposed to though) They use Fruity Loops, by the way.

I don't mind drum machies that much. My sampler (Yamaha RS7000) has got this "swing" feature that can enable give the beats a bit of a human touch. I don't use beats for my music that much, though.

do you got some of your stuff online slavo?

SWING?!?!? WAHHHHHH?!

Try this:

http://casicadaminuto.psychoindustri...by_chlapci.mp3

thanks
btw the second link is dead.
the first one starts a little odd nosdamesque till it goes into merzbow, really dig that, and the third one is beautiful!!!
slavo I love you even more now :)

That's what the feature's called.

thank you. no, srsly, thank YOU. every positive feedback is like a tap on the shoulder.
you rule, mate.

i never heard of a drum machine swinging.

That's awesome!

I'm not making a pun or a play on words or anything, that's seriously awesome... drum machines becoming more human.

check out the elektron machinedrum it got a swing-mode too, which is really really interesting (like the whole damn machne)

by adding that feature you make the beats go slightly out of rhytm, a bit sooner or later than the exact note. that kind of production has been used a lot in old school hip-hop tracks, for example

that's fucking phenomenal.

http://www.machinedrum.com/

this is the most fucked up drummachie you can get. users are autechre and boards of canada and many more.

this thing is sooo badass

_slavo_ - that piece is so awesome, man! Great swinging rhythms and harmonic sounds a go-go. I certainly wouldn't mind hearing more of your stuff.

sweet thanks