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_slavo_ 10.25.2008 03:48 AM

I think this track is much better than the other ones, that carry a strong Constellation stigma.

SYRFox 10.25.2008 05:43 AM

Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
I think this track is much better than the other ones, that carry a strong Constellation stigma.

Yeah, I only had a piano before (no Fruity Loops or stuff like that :D) so I was only able to play that kind of tracks, and I was kind of limited with it; I feel freer now

al shabbray 10.25.2008 06:36 AM

but I really like your piano works too, strong atmospheres!!! its just another type of...erm genre.
or is slavo referring to something else?

SYRFox 10.25.2008 06:38 AM

I think he's refering to my piano works
By the way there'll still be some piano tracks on my next album
I'm trying to record them in a better way this time but I'm not sure if it's gonna be okay

al shabbray 10.25.2008 06:40 AM

often bad recordings enhance the athmosphereic aspects.
for me (like I said somewhere here before):
atmosphere > technique

SYRFox 10.25.2008 06:41 AM

Yeah you're right, there's a feeling of melancholy that comes with bad recordings, especially with piano (see Mogwai's "Oh How The Dog Stack Up" or last part of first track on Lift Yr Skinny Fists by GYBE). I don't know what I'll do with those piano tracks
I have to re-record them anyway, cause most of them are only recorded in a demo state

_slavo_ 10.25.2008 08:12 AM

exactly as you said with the Mogwai and Godspeed tracks..the resemblance is there and is too obvious.
that's why I like your last song a milion times more.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.25.2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by max
while I too, don't really understand the need for the intro, I enjoy the tune.

the sound used and the chords progression remind me of the very first SILENT HILL soundtrack composed by Akira Yamaoka in 1999 - an essential work for all noise aficionados. also something by Brad Fidel... 80ies, man!

thumbs up!


fucking a, I was gonna call it some fucking SILENT HILL shit!

SYRFox 10.27.2008 09:33 AM

Hey there
I've recorded two of my piano tracks for the new album this morning, advices about them would be appreciated as well :) I tried to improve the recording quality, and I think I've done: even if it's not perfect, the sound is really much clearer. Let me know what you think about it, the tracks, the recording, etc... Thanks :)

The Sun And Moon Cult Under The Invisible Bridge
And They All Could Feel The Special Atmosphere In The Air On That Precise Moment

(yeah I thought I'd give them ultra long titles :D)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 01:44 PM

bump

al shabbray 10.27.2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
Hey there
I've recorded two of my piano tracks for the new album this morning, advices about them would be appreciated as well :) I tried to improve the recording quality, and I think I've done: even if it's not perfect, the sound is really much clearer. Let me know what you think about it, the tracks, the recording, etc... Thanks :)

The Sun And Moon Cult Under The Invisible Bridge
And They All Could Feel The Special Atmosphere In The Air On That Precise Moment

(yeah I thought I'd give them ultra long titles :D)


the quality is great. I love your piano tracks, what more can I say? :)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 02:14 PM

Thanks :)

(btw to answer your comment, I play an upright piano - I think that's the right expression. It's a Scherer that we bought seven years ago - but it needs to be retuned now, it's kind of out of tune.

al shabbray 10.27.2008 02:17 PM

its really expansive to tune a piano if you cant do it by yourself isnt it?
I thinks it sounds fantastic

SYRFox 10.27.2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by al shabbray
its really expansive to tune a piano if you cant do it by yourself isnt it?
I thinks it sounds fantastic

yeah it's really expansive - and it's kind of impossible to tune it yourself, you have to own very special instruments. it's like 100€ to tune it all the time, and you're supposed to tune it every year (I think it's been three years since I last tuned it now :D)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 02:36 PM

anyway a piano always sounds good :D

al shabbray 10.27.2008 03:04 PM

yes its the holy cow of instruments for a reason I think.
did you have lessons? or did you taught it yourself?

SYRFox 10.27.2008 04:14 PM

I attended lessons (piano + music theory) at a music school for 6 years - from September 2001 to June 2007. At the end I was able to play some rather complex Debussy works, but since I left the school I think I have lost a bit of technical skills (I'm not pretending I was a piano genius before); but I didn't really needed them for my compositions anyway, they're not too technical to play.
What I've gained from lefting the school, however, is a certain liberty: I mean before, I was sometimes (often while improvising) stuck in theory, like I would always fall into chords I had studied or whatever; it's not the case anymore

al shabbray 10.27.2008 04:23 PM

I feel that.
Ive never took guitar lessons, and of course I lost a year to lern the basics, but when Ive played with other guitarists who took lessons I felt like Ive gained something more important for me, freedom in how to play something. thoe guys where always kinda trapped in how to do something. I kept this D.I.Y. style, hahha not everybodies cup of tea, of course.
and since i am almost playing in non-standard tunings only I am way too far out for every guitarero Ive met so far (thats the reason in the first place why Ive started to make the music I am doing now, hahaha)

SYRFox 10.27.2008 04:45 PM

guitar heroes suck. it's another different thing, there's no really piano heroes (ahah) i guess (except really really good players but they won't go playing hours-long solos... maybe i don't know too many piano players though)
but yeah, it's great to have a little freedom, especially when you try to improvise...

al shabbray 10.27.2008 04:48 PM

yes there isnt anything worse then somebody who thinks he is technically better then nybody else when it comes to music. its NO competition its art for fucks sake. but alot of guys tend to make a competition out of everything, I think that sucks big times, and especially a lot of guitarists are this way, but I am sure thats because the guitar is maybe the most played instrument?


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