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shentov 11.17.2008 06:06 AM

maybe it'd be boring?

MellySingsDoom 11.17.2008 06:08 AM

Nefeli - Well, I should clarify - I mean more the idea of someone saying either "I'm totally straight, and am going to act in a way that proves it to the world", or "I'm totally gay, and etc etc". It's not the state of sexuality that I'm referring to, more (like porky) the way that sexuality is portrayed. To me, aggressive homosexuality is equally as off-putting as aggressive heterosexuality.

pbradley 11.17.2008 06:38 AM

I want to spend all your money... at the gay bar gay bar gay bar.

MellySingsDoom 11.17.2008 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
I want to spend all your money... at the gay bar gay bar gay bar.


I have no money - will you accept Luncheon Vouchers instead?

This Is Not Here 11.17.2008 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
To me, aggressive homosexuality is equally as off-putting as aggressive heterosexuality.


I totally agree with this Melly, well put.

This Is Not Here 11.17.2008 07:30 AM

The irony for me is, if the accusation that is levelled against bisexuals by some homosexuals is that we have all of the fun and none of the prejudice, if we continue to get cold shouldered by these guys (which I flatly refuse to put up with anymore) or they refuse to legitimize our sexuality then they're balancing that out of us quite nicely themselves, aren't they?

Toilet & Bowels 11.17.2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by This Is Not Here
Generally, I've got the vibe that alot of gay guys don't consider being bi as a legitimate sexuality.


well a lot of straight people would agree with them, you're just a bunch of greedy, indecisive, untrustworthy, wishy-washy bastards.

shentov 11.17.2008 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I have no money - will you accept Luncheon Vouchers instead?


i accept Visa, Mastercard, etc.

ploesj 11.17.2008 09:20 AM

i know a gay guy who is proud of the fact that he cans educe lesbians. yeah.

sarramkrop 11.17.2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Hmm, speaking for myself - people's sexuality is always in flux, and without going into personal details here, mine shifts around quite a lot. I'm pretty happy with it now, tbh, and anyway, the idea of someone being utterly hetero or gay is ridiculous.


You made a point I agree with, and one I don't. I'm sure that if I was to convince a straight male to have sex with me (regardless of the quality), there is a not so strange possibility that they could even enjoy penetration, as we are 'sexual' beings, like we often say. On the other hand what makes humans different from animals is the fact that we are capable of thinking rationally and know what we like best, therefore we set clear boundaries that indicate what we prefer and stick to.

This Is Not Here 11.17.2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
well a lot of straight people would agree with them, you're just a bunch of greedy, indecisive, untrustworthy, wishy-washy bastards.


I am not greedy. I may be bi but I still find 0.1% of the population fuckable. I am neither indecisive or wishy-washy, I am very assured of my sexuality even if no one else is, if I had to pick to be either gay or straight I know I would loose a large part of my character, so to be told that I am just not admitting something, or indeed any of your above statement, is actually highly offensive.

girlgun 11.17.2008 02:54 PM

i'm effiminate in a gay bar all the time. no biggie. just keep your head up. and reachin' for the stars or some shit?

This Is Not Here 11.17.2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by girlgun
i'm effiminate in a gay bar all the time. no biggie. just keep your head up. and reachin' for the stars or some shit?


I think you misread the title of this thread sweetie.

I meant "I met a schoolfriend who used to to tease me for being effeminate, in a gar bar..."

girlgun 11.17.2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by This Is Not Here
I think you misread the title of this thread sweetie.

I meant "I met a schoolfriend who used to to tease me for being effeminate, in a gar bar..."

i get teased for being a totally effiminate floozy in gay bars! how did i misread?!

sarramkrop 11.17.2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
its from predictible and boring to annoying.


Add to that mentally draining when you have friends who act/think that way. I can't really say what it's like for lesbians, but the few I know - unless they're bulldog dykes - seem to be in more 'stable' relationships.

This is not to say that there are not gay male relationships out there which work out for the best, it's the whole flirting, approach, and self-pity that putting massive emphasis on your sexuality comports when you are socialising with other gay males.

Male gays all too often are incapable of just going out, having a few beers, without retaining the mindset of someone who is waiting 'for something to happen'. Females are generally more relaxed, be they straight or gay, so they tend to work out things in more natural and less neurotic ways that often don't make them jump to quick conclusions which are heavily influenced by the sexual outcome of their sleeping around with someone.

Part of that I think happens because males are males, wether one likes it or not sex is one way most of us define our status. In the gay male psyche it's a mixture of severe insecurity masked by repressed sexuality which goes on to overshadow the little of worth someone might have to show to society. Hence the super-fast prolification of 'gay counselling' that do work for some individuals, but ultimatly detract a big amount of confidence from an individual because they seem to put the spotlight on his/her 'gay problems'.

If you think of yourself as being just a gay, rather than an individulal whose sexuality happens to be homo, don't be surprised if you end up a bundle of gay insecurity/anxiety/social inadequacy.

greedrex 11.17.2008 03:27 PM

aggresive heterosexuality defines me.I can assume for certain 100% i'm never ever going to have sex under any circumstances with a man.
unless he's really really hot.
then i might get all horney again..
bah.

sarramkrop 11.17.2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by greedrex
aggresive heterosexuality defines me.I can assume for certain 100% i'm never ever going to have sex under any circumstances with a man.
unless he's really really hot.
then i might get all horney again..
bah.


I'm a relaxed homosexual, and I never had the urge of being aggressive to a hairy inflatable doll. Do I win?

Kegmama 11.17.2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
...What makes humans different from animals is the fact that we are capable of thinking rationally and know what we like best, therefore we set clear boundaries that indicate what we prefer and stick to.


Agreed. At age 16 I discovered I love the cock and have stuck to it ever since.

greedrex 11.17.2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
I love the cock

 

greedrex 11.17.2008 03:41 PM

So now...
 


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