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pbradley 11.21.2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
people like my nephew who is currently medicated for "hyperactivity" but whom i argue is a true physical genius who could be an olympic champion for fucks sakes but no, he has to do his homework, blagh.

Unfortunately discovering that kind of talent is difficult. You can't very well say "oh you're hyperactive, so let's put you through a gambit of physical arts and see what sticks." Passion for art is essential to the artist. Exposure. Take the youth to the art museums, concerts, plays, performances, happenings.

ZEROpumpkins 11.21.2008 05:24 PM

I'd say depends on the subject and teacher. Some teachers really encourage you to be creative in your answers, particularly in English class.

!@#$%! 11.21.2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
Unfortunately discovering that kind of talent is difficult. You can't very well say "oh you're hyperactive, so let's put you through a gambit of physical arts and see what sticks." Passion for art is essential to the artist. Exposure. Take the youth to the art museums, concerts, plays, performances, happenings.


it's not difficult, the kid has had amazing physical coordination since before he could speak; he's a star soccer player and he's just fucking awesome-- he just can't sit quietly in class, which reminded me of that dancer story the limey dude in the video tells.

i think you believe the video talks about the arts alone but no, he clearly speaks about different types of intelligence-- musical, kinesthetic, visual, etc-- and how the schools are not set for that kind of variety.

a similar thing happens with business schools and entrepreneurs-- business school doesn't teach you how to build your own company, it teaches you how to be a well-trained corporate officer.

pbradley 11.21.2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i think you believe the video talks about the arts alone but no, he clearly speaks about different types of intelligence-- musical, kinesthetic, visual, etc-- and how the schools are not set for that kind of variety.

I'm using a rather broad definition of the arts. I don't mean it as anything lacking intelligence. Its hard for a student who is visually intelligent to realize the fact in front of a blackboard. The student need to be exposed to the visually intelligent arts and will seek it thereafter. All students should be exposed to the arts but the idea of paying for it offends tax payers.

!@#$%! 11.21.2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
I'm using a rather broad definition of the arts. I don't mean it as anything lacking intelligence. Its hard for a student who is visually intelligent to realize the fact in front of a blackboard. The student need to be exposed to the visually intelligent arts and will seek it thereafter.


i guess so. whatever, unless i find a good school where i live, im homeschooling my kids-- karate!!!

 

pbradley 11.21.2008 05:45 PM

Enjoy your children becoming friendless and huge drunkards in college. At least they'll know how to sweep the leg.

ploesj 11.21.2008 05:46 PM

if you are really creative, school won't kill it, you'll find another way to explore it. it's good to give kids chances to develop talents, but that's not just the school's job: if the parents don't care or say schoolwork comes first (i've heard that one a lot) creativity will be killed too.

!@#$%! 11.21.2008 05:47 PM

ha ha ha ha. no worries, i'll socialize them-- abandoning them in crowded places will ensure they learn to relate with people!

 

ploesj 11.21.2008 05:58 PM

that's the way!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.21.2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i guess so. whatever, unless i find a good school where i live, im homeschooling my kids-- karate!!!


 


don't do that, I am a rasta, and they all pretend they want to do that, but then their kids grow up with out any social skills. Schools don't teach kids shit but how to socialize and interact with a world full of people. If you have not had to experience of spending over a decade immersed in thousands of people you don't know from all over the fucking world, then you are like a rabid, chained up pit bull who never met another dog in his life...

teachers don't teach shit, the experience of school teaches kids how to become people.

Alex's Trip 11.21.2008 07:14 PM

I don't know if it kills creativity, but it certainly does not foster it.


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