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Glice 06.15.2006 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
they use alot of distortion, alot of distortion, alot of distortion

I think your just thinking darklands, but there real sound (psychocandy) is very noisy....


Hmm. I'm not thinking darklands, but whatever. It sounds too punchy and bright to be distortion. I could be wrong.

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
Im sure thats what they said when they heard the velvet underground too...

As it happens,the gonzoid qualities of the Velvets were unquestionably something that the Mary Chain were drawn to.

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
they use alot of distortion, alot of distortion, alot of distortion

I think your just thinking darklands, but there real sound (psychocandy) is very noisy....

As it happens i'm totally not of the idea that crunchy distortion(wich is indeed present in parts of 'Psychocandy') is not the same thing as feedback.

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Hmm. I'm not thinking darklands, but whatever. It sounds too punchy and bright to be distortion. I could be wrong.


well I do get what your saying, on some songs they apply a sharp clean reverberated guitar that sounds squeaky clean. And most of their guitars are so overly overdriven that you might not even catch it actually being a guitar...

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
As it happens i'm totally not of the idea that crunchy distortion(wich is indeed present in parts of 'Psychocandy') is not the same thing as feedback.


yes of course that is correct. There is alot more feedback that is responsible for their sound than distortion (and by distortion I mean overdrive) than one would usually perceive...

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 01:32 PM

gonzoid???

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:35 PM

gon·zo (gŏn')
 

adj. Slang.
  1. Using an exaggerated, highly subjective style, especially in journalism: “a hyperkinetic, gonzo version of Graham Greene” (New Yorker).
  2. Bizarre; unconventional.
[Perhaps Italian, simpleton (perhaps short for Borgonzone, Burgundian) or Spanish ganso, dullard, goose (of Germanic origin).]

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m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 01:39 PM

gonzoid is certainly not a form of the word though....

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:42 PM

But it does exist and it is used in music journalism from time to time.That is not to say that i am a music journalist but this term does apply to (some of)the music of the Velvets appropriately.I'm not too sure if you could use it discussing the Jesus and Mary Chain though.

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
But it does exist and it is used in music journalism from tim to time.That is not to say that i am a music journalist but this term does apply to (some of)the music of the Velvets appropriately.I'm not too sure if you could use it discussing the Jesus and Mary Chain though.


I certainly have never encountered "gonzoid". Webster hasnt either it seems...

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:50 PM

That'll be the end of me then.

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:54 PM

Click here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...zo+rock+&meta=

porkmarras 06.15.2006 01:54 PM

Happy now?

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 01:56 PM

no, where is "gonzoid"??

sonicl 06.15.2006 01:56 PM

I thought I read somewhere that there was a either a sampler or a tape loop invloved.

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I thought I read somewhere that there was a either a sampler or a tape loop invloved.


im thinking that their albums owe much to studio work involving their feedback. And your probably right with the use of samplers. I mean its obviously layered, im wondering if it is layered guitar noise or something else....

i would love to here a live recording of them in their early days.....

m^a(t)h 06.15.2006 02:10 PM

check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZlDBARD2R8&search=the%20jesus%20and%20mar y%20chain

oh yeah...

Savage Clone 06.15.2006 02:11 PM

I have some live video footage of them from the very early days.
They sound exactly like you would expect.
Fuzzed out, raucous cacophony. Audience violence and venue destruction.
Awesome arrogance in interviews.
I don't think there was much studio trickery in Psychocandy at all.
They barely had any gear at all.

porkmarras 06.15.2006 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
no, where is "gonzoid"??

Clearly getting on in years (in rock band terms), there is nothing here that has ... nothing on this album that has the gonzoid genius of "Suds and Soda". ...
www.amazon.co

Savage Clone 06.15.2006 02:14 PM

"Why are you guys getting so much attention?"

"Because we're so good. Because we're so much better than everybody else. Because everybody else is complete rubbish. We put out a record, people bought it; we put out another and they bought that as well. See, I'm not just some little crank from Scotland sayin' we're so bloody good; I'm talkin' the truth!"

Awesome interview action.


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