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I don't know, some Killing Joke or something like that?

Earthless - Rhythms from a Cosmic Sky
The Hidden Hand - Divine Propaganda

fu manchu?

Ride tH eLightning

...Thinking aloud on this one ... were (pre-shit) Metallica America's Motorhead?

^^^ I'm not answering that question.

I'm happy having my kegmama rep as a positive value.

"Pre-Shit" = Up to and including Master of Puppets?

Not that the answer to that question matters -

Metallica started out influenced by NWOBHM, and didn't even try that hard to be anything other than a US NWOBHM band - Motorhead started out as just Motorhead, and weren't especially trying to be anything other than what they were.

Metallica have always had to try too hard to be dirty and ugly, while dirty and ugly is what defines Motorhead, with no effort on their part whatsoever.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, Metallica are a bunch of poseurs, while Motorhead are the real deal.

The nearest that Metallica and Motorhead have come to equality is on "1916"(?), and that was only because Motorhead reduced themselves to Metallica's level.

^^ Master of puppets was pretty good, no???
I'm no metal specialist, but still....

^^^ I'd but up to "Garage Days Re-revisted" into the "pretty good" category.

after that, they started to try too hard to be clean and pretty.

Metallica's "Load" was pretty cool. It isn't what you're looking for at all but still it is a good album.

I like every Metallica album.

How about these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXg1qeDZisw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4YXEywldaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk_OE...eature=related

Randy Holden - Population II

I still can't find anything that outdoes Sabbath's Master of Reality in this category. My next pick would be Space Ritual by Hawkwind.

i just read that 33 1/3rd book by Darnielle. amazing stuff.

With this band, Ed Kuepper wanted to return to the sound and energy of one of his previous bands, The Saints; however, The Aints were very different to The Saints, the latter was basically a three chord punk band, but The Aints did 5 or 6 minute epics, layered with many distorted guitars. The album titled came from Coltrane and the album art came from Funhouse.