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Leetdude 07.27.2009 10:37 PM

Listening to it in my car right now. Excellent record.

I, too, wish Coda was attached to Becuz.

Becuz is great, Unwind is great, Skip Tracer is great, The Diamond Sea is great, Little Trouble Girl is great, the title track is great... it's all great. Except maybe Panty Lies, but even that's grown on me.

deflinus 07.27.2009 10:56 PM

Panty Lies is one of their most creative songs. i used to HATE this song. but now it's become one of my favorites..

GeneticKiss 07.28.2009 12:06 AM

I don't know...if you ask me, I think Washing Machine is overrated. I've probably said this before, but I have to be in a particular mood to want to listen to that album. I think it's because it starts off so loud and rockin' but then hits a lllloooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg low-key phase from the tail-end of the title track, through Unwind, and then gets too mellow for its own good with Little Trouble Girl, before picking up again with No Queen Blues, which is kinda catchy (the chorus is, anyway) but for whatever reason I can't really say it "rocks". Then Panty Lies hits; a relatively upbeat song, but it's also very quiet for a "faster" song. The last three songs are all high points, but by then the damage is done.

Most of the time I'd rather listen to Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star, which if you think about it, is kinda like a harder, more accessible Washing Machine...

Leetdude 07.28.2009 12:10 AM

I like the mellow. =(

GeneticKiss 07.28.2009 12:26 AM

Aw, don't be sad...

I like mellow music too, but I've got to want to listen to it. I don't like having long mellow stretches in albums...kills the momentum IMO.

Here's my ideal album mood chart:

1. Upbeat, anthemic
2. Slower, but still pretty hard
3. Faster than 2, but softer in the end
4. Quiet, introspective
5. Longer song that starts out light, then gets heavy
6. Mid-tempo number with lots of dynamics
7. Fast and agressive
8. Lightweight, but harder/heavier than 4
9. Upbeat
10. Epic
11. Mellow

I'm not saying the ideal album should have 11 songs, that's just a list of the moods I think an album should cover, in the order they should cover them.

dasx 07.28.2009 12:59 AM

It's a good album, but not band's greatest one. There's a plenty of great songs in that album, Becuz, Washing Machine, and The Diamond Sea for example. Those three songs make Washing Machine a good album for me.

There's also a few not so good songs and maybe one of their worst songs (Panty Lies). Those lower my rating of the album a little bit.

Death & the Maiden 07.28.2009 01:04 AM

I think it's overrated. Along with Goo, probably my least favourite. I also don't like the Diamond Sea. However, the title track is one of my favourite Kim songs.

greedrex 07.28.2009 01:55 AM

It's no secret that WM is my favourite record ever by anyone.
completely lifechanging.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 07.28.2009 02:06 AM

Yea, I agree. The first time I heard Washing Machine it completely changed the way I viewed music and it also allowed me to really appreciate Sonic Youth's earlier stuff for some reason. I still think Skip Tracer is seriously one of the greatest songs ever written by anyone. Washing Machine has a great instrumental part in it. Saucer-Like, Panty Lies, No Queen Blues, holy crap.
I need to listen to that album right now.

infinitemusic 07.28.2009 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I don't think it's underrated as a whole, though I think some songs on it might not get the recognition they deserve for various reasons. For example, I think the title track is, musically, SY's best song ever. But the vocals.. yeeeeeah. Not my thing.


"Washing MAchine" was basically the first Sonic Youth song I really liked... and the vocals just strike me as hilarious.

Moshe 07.28.2009 02:45 AM

10/10

_slavo_ 07.28.2009 02:50 AM

It was the first Sonic Youth record I've ever heard and is still one of the top two SY albums in my chart (alongside Evol). With only one weaker track (No Queen Blues) it's unbelievably coherent and still exciting to listen to, after all these years.

As mr. Moshe said, 10/10.

FreshChops 07.28.2009 03:50 AM

In my opinion, I think Washing Machine is somewhat seen as a turn-off because of the opening tracks. I don't think the first 3 tracks are album-worthy. I don't know if I've even listened to them more than a couple times. Once you get to the title track and beyond, it's literally some of SY at their best, but man, what's up with those 3 tracks. It set's a bad tone for the rest of the album.

I still remember getting it the day it came out and the disappointment by the time I got to track 3. I wonder if those first tracks kinda killed it's potential to be hailed one of their best?

_slavo_ 07.28.2009 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreshChops
In my opinion, I think Washing Machine is somewhat seen as a turn-off because of the opening tracks. I don't think the first 3 tracks are album-worthy.


Are you kidding? "Becuz" must be one of the best album openers of all SY albums.

al shabbray 07.28.2009 06:33 AM

^^I agree
becuz is also one of the best kim songs I think

PAULYBEE2656 07.28.2009 07:43 AM

I don't give a fuck, why everybody thinks you should shut up....



sums it up really..... 2nd best sy record ever released....

SONIC GAIL 07.28.2009 08:17 AM

I don't seem to notice much Washing Machine talk around either. I love it!
In the low rent apartment time of my life I put it on once aweek when I loaded up the Tercel for the laundry mat. My life sound track of sorts.
No Queen Blues & Skip tracer are 2 of my favorites, but it is hard to pick favorites from so many great songs.

barnaclelapse 07.28.2009 09:26 AM

I love Washing Machine and had no idea that it might be underrated. It certainly seems to be a winner with most of the SY fans I've spoken to over the years.

The Diamond Sea is one of my all-time favorite SY tracks, to be honest.

deflinus 07.28.2009 09:33 AM

how can washing machine be overrated? i don't know ANYONE in real life that's even heard the album

SONIC GAIL 07.28.2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deflinus
how can washing machine be overrated? i don't know ANYONE in real life that's even heard the album

That's cause all of us are old fogies now. Young people don't listen to Washing Machine.


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