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ricechex 09.16.2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Yeah, I don't really "care" about lyrics but why did Malkmus's lyrics suddenly get... non-cryptic... direct.. and uninteresting, after Slanted? Anyone know?


I have no idea what you mean. Malkmus has always been cryptic and/or non-nonsensical, at least far beyond Slanted. Brighten the Corners in part. has some way out lyrics. "One of us is a cigar stand and one of us is a lovely blue incandescent guillotine"..? To me that's one of the trademarks of Pavement, off the top of his head spontaneity.

DanielCarlson 09.16.2009 09:48 AM

Could be interesting, I'd see them.

Rob Instigator 09.16.2009 10:22 AM

Where's Gary?

noisereductions 09.16.2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Where's Gary?


hahaha

loubarret 09.16.2009 11:20 AM

Jesus lizard first and now pavement, I might turn Christian...

notyourfiend 09.16.2009 11:23 AM

wow, for once brooklyn vegan has something interesting to tell me!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.16.2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman
haha, I find the fact that you found that on Brooklyn Vegan more entertaining than Pavement reforming


I was linked to it. I'm not from Brooklyn nor am I a Vegan

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.16.2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I actually think REAL EMOTIONAL TRASH and PIG LIB are both fantastic records, surprisingly (don't like the other two really). I mean, Malkmus is a bit boring as a songwriter (not really into guitar solos and shit usually which a lot of his songs have) and the energy/sloppiness of Pavement's early work is what attracts me to them -- so I'm surprised that he's able to write somewhat "mature" music that is actually quite listenable and interesting and hooky and melodically pleasing. His lyrics lately have been terrible though.. worse than ever.

Yeah, I don't really "care" about lyrics but why did Malkmus's lyrics suddenly get... non-cryptic... direct.. and uninteresting, after Slanted? Anyone know?


I don't think the lyrics on Btc or WZ are non-cryptic, direct, or uninteresting

radarmaker 09.16.2009 01:09 PM

Guess I'd better start saving for next May's ATP as well then...

atsonicpark 09.16.2009 03:23 PM

You guys really don't think his approach to lyrics changed after Slanted?! Well, they certainly became less interesting to me, what with his tongue-in-cheek references to Smashing Pumpkins and Geddy Lee. They are definitely more straightforward, and they don't scare me anymore.

Also, he sings like an asshole quite often.

automatic bzooty 09.16.2009 04:09 PM

malkmus sings like an asshole because he's a smug little asshole. but i like him that way.

Rob Instigator 09.16.2009 04:39 PM

yr killing me
yr killing me gain
it's not my fault
it's not my fault again

pretty straightforwards

atsonicpark 09.16.2009 04:49 PM

stop breathing
stop breathing for me now
write it on a postcard

range life, i need a range life
so i can settle down
settle down

etc.

Compare that to "grip-force the vials, strip the locks, smash the set, slash the beds .... like a docent's lisp, like a damsel's spit, like a dry gin's twist, like a poor droll sir, like a poke's dull spurs, like a pastor's flock" and so on and so on. I don't know, they just seemed more interesting before... we can debate the crypticness, the directness, etc etc etc all day. I'm just saying, his lyrics suddenly and dramatically got less interesting after Slanted and got less and less interesting until now where they are just dull and boring. Like Malkmus himself, hey!

Rob Instigator 09.16.2009 05:04 PM

Parfum V is the GREATEST

she's got the radio active and it makes me feel OK
I don't feel OK

Jeremy 09.16.2009 05:05 PM

Well, look at this way. Until the success of Slanted, they weren't really a band, just a way to kill time before jobs and school. Afterwards they actually toured and picked up some new members. As the band grew I think his style changed, since he was technically in a "real" band now. Hence why Slanted is very different from all four of their other records lyrically.

Kinda like Sonic Youth... Compare lyrics to say, The World Looks Red to Dirty Boots or something.

Slanted has some killer lyrics but it's hard to rank them lyrically since after that his lyrics were such a different style.

~Jeremy~

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.16.2009 05:23 PM

Well Slanted and Enchanted sucks anyways. (well not really, but it's my least favorite album of theirs. Terror Twilight I just straight up hate, and thus can't call my least favorite)

Wowee has some pretty weird lyrics on it. I don't really know what the fuck any of those songs are about.

atsonicpark 09.16.2009 05:24 PM

Brazillian nuts.

atsonicpark 09.16.2009 05:25 PM

# 1. Wowee # 2. Slanted # 3. Westing # 4. CR, CR # 5. Brighten # who cares. TT

GeneticKiss 09.16.2009 06:25 PM

Pavement are too old to reunite and for me to take them seriously.

I mean, to me, Pavement is the soundtrack to youth itself, and I just can't see that kind of music being done by people in their late 30s...

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.16.2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Pavement are too old to reunite and for me to take them seriously.

I mean, to me, Pavement is the soundtrack to youth itself, and I just can't see that kind of music being done by people in their late 30s...


The best bands right now have old people in them. . .

Sonic Youth
Mission of Burma


Oh and:

Wowee Zowee > Brighten the Corners > Westing By Musket > Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain > Slanted and Enchanted > Terror Shitlight


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