Sonic Youth Gossip - jay reatard dead?

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Originally Posted by ni'k

hasn't been able to see through the lie dream of rockstar consumption. which if you think about it is just something akin to a competition to see who can consume the most substances and get the most wasted and live the life of excess. it's like an all you can eat steak competition or something. lame. i don't think there's even any pretense of revolution or challenges to the system in music now. and apart from a few select people there really isn't any drive to form a NEW hedonism, one that's not toxic and kills off the self destructive mistakes of the past, makes them as uncool as they really should are, and doesn't valourise the brain damaging stupidity and sheer hell of it all. leave that to mainstream pop music and lynsey lohan. this is why i like inca ore so much because i see something new and interesting not just in her music but the way she lives aswell. until we sever the link between art and the supposed purity of small time record selling touring drug dealing capitalism there will be thousands more jays, most prob won't have the level of recognition he had but most probably could have if they had the chance and circumstances. i'm sad that this happened to the guy, never knew him, rip and all that. unless it turns out that he died of natural causes unrelated to drugs or something and in that case my rant still stands and i'll just edit out his name.

Why get so philosophical about it? It's rock and roll. People that relate to it often relate to drugs as well and sometimes this means death. I don't think rock music has much hope anymore at being challenging or innovative. It's old, but old doesn't mean it can't still be an outlet to those that identify with it. More than anything, it's supposed to be fun.

There are other places to look when it comes to music aimed at challenging an audience or attempting to be innovative. Unfortunately, the second part of that last sentence often means boring.

I wasn't a big fan of Jay's music, but I can appreciate it for what it was. If he happened to die of a drug overdose, intentional or not, this likely means there was a complex inner demeanor that I'm certain his fans will begin to dissect and question in the same way many did Cobain or Ian Curtis. The music will likely be looked at from different angles Jay may or may not have intended.

I think the flu got him. He had been complaining about being sick.

Hope I'm not coming off as bitchy. If so, im sorry. The internet has the effect sometimes.

What a waste.

He had a peculiar behavior (sacked his pals/band, pissed on stage during the following tour).

Refering to punching a guy who had climbed onto the stage to hug him, party with him or whatever, he said that he disliked that kind of attitude. He said he wanted the audience to understand that he no longer was a brainless punk rocker.

I liked his songs a lot, their weird lyrics and his vocal delivery.

I thought, young as he was, and talented too (to my ears), that he'd get better an better. I'm older and alive, and I like young people to surprise me. This feels like being cheated, I'll have to go on with older rockers.

R.I.P.

Blood Visions is so cool.

yep seemingly it was no more sinister than the flu. it can kill especially if its a strong virilant flu virus. sad. many flu deaths this year. very sad. wasnt he an asthmatic, that would majke sense as us inhaler eaters are very open to fl especially swine flu...

rest easy jay.

yeah... and Mary was a virgin.

"He tried to attack us with a chainsaw after throwin around wads of money and burnin 20s and askin us if we thought he was a sellout but he was so fd on coke he couldnt even turn it on then he hit me in the face with a disco ball full of sand and cracked my nose open and kicked us out of his house after he invited us there to stay there and i was all bloody and my friends slashed his tires it sucked He was smokin coke out of a skull bong and freebasin and had 50 grand in his closet"

Godspeed Jay. He still had so much potential....

~Jeremy~

fuck, that really sucks, i for the most part was really into his shit. dude did party like a motherfucker though.

Evidently this is being investigated as a possible homicide.
http://www.undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=10076

worth more dead than alive????

INSANE! I used to listen to lots of synthpunk (for lack of a better word) type stuff.. phantom limbs, servotron, causey way, thunderbirds are now, experimental dental school, brainiac, six finger satellite, mocket, screamers, polysics, spoozys, metronome, enon, the vss, etc......

and LOST SOUNDS!

I totally had forgotten about this band until earlier and looked up info on them and read that Jay played guitar and did synth and vocals for this band. What the hell? Never knew that. Great band!

I just got into him. :(