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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.20.2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
those look really clean or perhaps just regular drunks that couldn't make it that particular day, they are not even crusty


yr stereotypes about homelessness is truly appalling my friend. go to a shelter or skid row one day, you might be surprised at how well groomed and dressed many homeless people are.. it is a myth to suppose that homelessness is a world of drunken, crusty lowlife men, in fact most homeless people by no means fit this description. Those unfortunate souls are derelicts who would stand out on the street even if they were trust fund kids. Most homeless folks look like regular folks, aside from not having homes :(

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
florida is too touristy / has too many attractions to be a southern town. too many transplants / too much fresh blood. the south is about old blood. about how many generations you can go back. it's about yacht clubs and private christian schools, and family names.

the most touristy acceptable southern landmarks are the coca-cola factory, the new georgia aquarium, and the atl strip clubs. those and forts/civil war sites, historic districts, myrtle beach, etc.


and you are way to into stereotyping florida as disneyworld (that one was for jon boy). there is a shitload more in florida than Caribbeans and tourist traps, florida has some of the most backwoods, arch-racism you could imagine. Some of the wildest, most ignorant people I have met were from florida, or were in stories told by folks I've met from florida :(

davenotdead 01.20.2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
and you are way to into stereotyping florida as disneyworld. there is a shitload more in florida than Caribbeans and tourist traps, florida has some of the most backwoods, arch-racism you could imagine. Some of the wildest, most ignorant people I have met were from florida, or were in stories told by folks I've met from florida :(



uh, and you are stereotyping southerners into racist, ignorant, backwoods people.

:fuckyou:

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.20.2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
uh, and you are stereotyping southerners into racist, ignorant, backwoods people.

:fuckyou:


no.. not at all actually. rather I was mentioning that in the South there are Southerners who are ignorant, backwoods and racist, and that Florida is not some miraculous exception. How could all the South be racist, half of the place are black folk? Further, I have known and been close to very many white southerners who were by no means racist or ignorant or backwoods. I have also met plenty of ignorant, racist, backwards (not backwoods) southerners. you misunderstand me completely. :cool:

davenotdead 01.20.2010 10:42 PM

there are ignorant racist people all over the world.

i don't see yr point

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.20.2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
there are ignorant racist people all over the world.

i don't see yr point


they just so happen to have a higher concentration in the South then in other places ;)

but why are you taking all this so personal? I didn't accuse you of being racist in any way, nor do I hold any Southerner guilty by association. This does not negate reality though, and this all got started because you said Florida was not exactly Southern, which is simply not true. Perhaps Orlando or Miami, but Northern Florida is as Southern as it gets, or as my dirty south folks say, "Y'all bettah axe sum-bahdy.."

phoenix 01.21.2010 01:32 AM

where can i purchase some of these christmas cards, for next year?

davenotdead 01.21.2010 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
they just so happen to have a higher concentration in the South then in other places ;)

but why are you taking all this so personal? I didn't accuse you of being racist in any way, nor do I hold any Southerner guilty by association. This does not negate reality though, and this all got started because you said Florida was not exactly Southern, which is simply not true. Perhaps Orlando or Miami, but Northern Florida is as Southern as it gets, or as my dirty south folks say, "Y'all bettah axe sum-bahdy.."


i said there are some southern towns...

i don't know, i've been all over florida, know people all over florida, spent at least a week in most parts of florida, my mom lived there for several years when she was a teenager, and worked in my grandparents restaurant.

and then i've lived in georgia for 90% of my life... i think i can spot the differences.



... GA % black persons = 30%, foreign language spoken at home 9.9% , foreign-born persons 7.1%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/13000.html

FLA % black persons = 15.9% , foreign language spoken at home 23.1% , foreign-born persons 16.7%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12000.html

davenotdead 01.21.2010 02:19 AM

hey, just for fun, here are other southern states. you tell me what the outlier state is.

SC : black 28.5% , language 5.2% , foreigners 2.9%

NC : 21.6% , 8.0% , 5.3%

TN : 16.8% , 4.8%, 2.8%

AL : 26.4% , 3.9% , 2.0%

MS : 37.2%, 3.6%, 1.4%



the only thing remotely close to FLA is that blacks don't live in tennesee...

knox 01.21.2010 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
yr stereotypes about homelessness is truly appalling my friend. go to a shelter or skid row one day, you might be surprised at how well groomed and dressed many homeless people are.. it is a myth to suppose that homelessness is a world of drunken, crusty lowlife men, in fact most homeless people by no means fit this description. Those unfortunate souls are derelicts who would stand out on the street even if they were trust fund kids. Most homeless folks look like regular folks, aside from not having homes :(


and you are way to into stereotyping florida as disneyworld (that one was for jon boy). there is a shitload more in florida than Caribbeans and tourist traps, florida has some of the most backwoods, arch-racism you could imagine. Some of the wildest, most ignorant people I have met were from florida, or were in stories told by folks I've met from florida :(


EXCUSE ME
. I KNOW my homeless.

And don't give me that patronizing shit about going to a fucking shelter shit, as if you think I haven't done any of these things, or I haven't helped this people just because I don't sound as charitable as you.

knox 01.21.2010 07:28 AM

this is amazing. somebody telling me i don't know homeless people very well. i'm still laughing.

floatingslowly 01.21.2010 09:17 AM

it's hard for me to get to know homeless very well, because when I see them, I roll up my window.

get yr own cigarettes, dammit.

knox 01.21.2010 09:19 AM

homeless people smelling good is a shame for the homeless community, they don't even deserve to be called homeless.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.21.2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
this is amazing. somebody telling me i don't know homeless people very well. i'm still laughing.




Quote:

Originally Posted by knox


those look really clean or perhaps just regular drunks that couldn't make it that particular day, they are not even crusty




speaks for itself.
Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
homeless people smelling good is a shame for the homeless community, they don't even deserve to be called homeless.



speaks even louder for itself.

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
hey, just for fun, here are other southern states. you tell me what the outlier state is.

SC : black 28.5% , language 5.2% , foreigners 2.9%

NC : 21.6% , 8.0% , 5.3%

TN : 16.8% , 4.8%, 2.8%

AL : 26.4% , 3.9% , 2.0%

MS : 37.2%, 3.6%, 1.4%



the only thing remotely close to FLA is that blacks don't live in tennesee...


I don't understand your point.. I brought up black populations to defend the south against racism, but what is your point in clarifying the numbers? Again, I am not accusing the South of being Universally racist, but you'd be lying if you tried to convince be there was not a larger concentration of racist bastards down there than other places in the US.

knox 01.21.2010 09:00 PM

it does, speaks for itself, it does.
the fact that you're quoting it.
all those things that I truly feel.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.21.2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knox
it does, speaks for itself, it does.
the fact that you're quoting it.
all those things that I truly feel.


in rastafari we say, "If a fish woulda keep him big yap shut, him never would have got caught!"

word -> sound -> power my friend, you should ONLY speak things you truly feel.

knox 01.21.2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
EXCUSE ME
. I KNOW my homeless.

And don't give me that patronizing shit about going to a fucking shelter shit, as if you think I haven't done any of these things, or I haven't helped this people just because I don't sound as charitable as you.


i kind of love the fact that people quote the posts they want in order to make the point they wanna believe in, its a bit like selective memory + editing tecniques.

knox 01.21.2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
in rastafari we say, "If a fish woulda keep him big yap shut, him never would have got caught!"

word -> sound -> power my friend, you should ONLY speak things you truly feel.


this might hurt you
but

you're not even black.


And if we were to speak only what you truly feel, no one would have a sense of humour. shit -> joke -> laughter my friend.

knox 01.21.2010 09:11 PM

and i didnt make a sound.

also, you do realize the fish has to eat and open its mouth.

this might surprise you, but the homeless can make jokes about being homeless too. ive heard them do it many times.
living that kind of life, you need a good sense of humour.

stop being so patronizing, it pisses me off.

amerikangod 01.21.2010 09:21 PM

While we're on the topic, I really can't stand reggae.

knox 01.21.2010 09:29 PM

Yeah, and that.

I mean Bob Marley did it and no one else should have attempted.

And don't pm me, can't you see I'm a bitch today?

I don't know what it is about discovering he's a white boy wrapped in rags talking about Rastafari that drives my pms hormones fucking crazy.


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