You're using very casual definitions of objectivity and subjectivity if you think the difference is between definite truth and opinion. Opinions aren't false by definition. How can one talk of matters of definite truth without accountable right opinion?

So you are saying time is not a constant state of truth? What is this constant state of truth? Where is it? Can you point to anything beside an abstraction in your head?

What is a hat outside of human fashions? What is summer outside of region-specific weather? What is getting hot to someone who has never felt warmth? All the parts of your question refer to first-person experiences to things outside itself. As such, subjective experience cannot exist without the objective for it to refer and the objective cannot be approached by any other means beside those that begin with subjective experience. This is why the dichotomy is shit. To refuse the dichotomy doesn't mean I'm a subjectivist nor an objectivist. The world in which we live and can make sense to ourselves is entwined in such a way that two simplistic post-Kantian terms can't undo it.

time is not a constant truth, if you think if is, you fail Einsteinian-theory.

but what did he know? its not like you can see black holes...


does anyone get the feeling that bradders furiously rubs his junk as he types out these constant eruditic graduation-validations?

the doctor is IN.

it's like watching intellectuals' cum slowly cascade down the walls

Nah, I let your mom do it for me.

I do believe in an objective reality. I just don't believe we can comprehend it beyond a few quite minor surface details, thankfully.

does a nice discussion need to be reduced to cocks and moms...

I think there is an objective reality that exists and that we interact and experience it through subjective means

how would we ever be able to know if there is an objective reality?

I didn't say opinions were false by definition. Just because something is subjective, doesn't mean it's false... :confused:



No, I'm just trying to express that truth is more definite than time.



I agree. Figuring out whether reality is subjective or objective, is only the tip of the iceberg.




I think you've nailed it. :)

yeah. even if there would be we an objective reality we wouldn't be able to tell.

That's what you get when you set up truth versus opinion.

Once again, Rob Instigator proves how awesome he is.

and seeing as there is no way for anyone to know then it kind of nullifies it's existence.

If theres one thing I do know its discussing philosophical matters such as this on the internet has definitely run its course for me. And after all that, i dont think ive changed my mind at all. Some say thats a sign of intellectual inflexibility and stubborness. I would say it means i was on the right path all along.

the only beliefs i hold are that nothing is true and everything is permissable

Jesus, im so tempted to wade in... but i mustn't

It's about the medium. tl;dr is the law of forums. I'm surprised at the resistance to the notion of the noumenal in this thread, but not really inclined to wade in.

I'd also like to direct you to rules 8, 11, 14, 15, 20, 25, 27, 32, 39 and 40 of the internet. Although, obviously, rule 34 is the only real rule.

Having said that, PMs do help to mollify the general futility of 'this sort of thing'.

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requesting rule 34 on object and subject, plz

any of you cockswains ever heard of the weak anthropic principle? read up on it-- it will cut through this bullshit like hot spunk on butter.