Who gives a fuck where it happens. If you're coming at me with a pipe with the intention to kill, you're a dead man.

It's physically impossible for a person wielding a pipe to charge at you when that person is on another boat separated by an ocean.

It must be a total mindfuck living in Israel.

Israel is for lovers.

The fact they brandished pipes and baseball bats in retaliation to commandos boarding the sixth ship justified Israel's suspicion that weapons might be being smuggled to the Hamas terrorist group.

It must be a total mindfuck living in America in relation to the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

shit i actually agree with KIS
the problem in israel is that we live next the shit that we have created, but all americans (myself included) are not guilt free.

but KIS, there were no weapons being smuggled, and israel had no right to board a ship 75 miles from its shore, and if they had not done that then they would have not been hit, and then they would have not had to kill 20 people.

I'm sure Hamas is delighted that there are political poseurs in the West who would gladly die for their cause.

Yes, but wouldn't those people be alive if they didn't react the way they did, adding unnecessary suspicion in a tense moment? And how do we know it's not a Hamas trick to further fuel anti-Israeli propaganda and condemnation from other countries?

did Hamas (TURKEY) fly the commandos in? I think that Israel is doing a fine job at creating their own condemnation without any help.


lulz u mite be srs.

They clearly planned to instigate it, sacrificing 20 people in the process. All for the common good, no doubt.

so, what yr suggesting is that TURKEY, loaded up a crack squad of israeli commandos into israeli boats and helicopters with the express intent of sacrificing 20 TURKS "for the common good"?

if I actually thought that you were more than a skilled troll, I'd attempt to debate yr logic-faults, but as it is, not even tesla69 could drag up such conspiratorial thoughts.

MAYBE IT WAS THE UFOS???

I haven't suggested that at all. What's the matter? I have sussed out Hamas gameplan and you're trying to cover that fact with puerility?

America has effectively turned a blind eye to what's happening in Gaza up until now. Will America now be practically the only country to not condemn the raid?

There's more than eight countries in the world. :rolleyes:

"Among the countries condemning Israel for its attack are Russia, Turkey, India, China, Brazil, France, Spain and many more. By stark contrast, the White House issued a statement which conspicuously refused to condemn the Israelis (Obama "expressed deep regret at the loss of life in today’s incident, and concern for the wounded"), while the U.S. State Department actually hinted at condemning the civilians delivering the aid ("we support expanding the flow of goods to the people of Gaza. But this must be done in a spirit of cooperation, not confrontation").

Obama's call for "learning all the facts and circumstances" is reasonable enough, but all these other countries made clear that this attack could never be justified based on what is already indisputably known: namely, that the ship attacked by Israel was in international waters and it resulted in the deaths and injuries to dozens of civilians but no Israeli soldiers were killed and a tiny handful injured. In any event, Obama's neutrality will have to give way to a definitive statement one way or the other, and soon."

well if that's the case the trick worked.

netanyahu was going to meet obama to patch shit up over expanded settlements (which were announced while joe biden was visiting to discuss iran! huge blunder!). he had to cancel & head back home from canada.

the un security council has been working on sanctions against nuke-seeking iran-- and guess who is a rotating member in the security council right now? turkey. how do you think that's going to proceed now?

turkey by the way has a seriously big & potent army in the region-- they are an occupying power as well (in northern cyprus) and had a cozy relationship with israel until recently, doing joint military exercises--that longstanding cooperation was cancelled as a result of the gaza invasion of 2008-9, and now israel goes and kills a bunch of turks? great...!

on top of that, abbas was having "indirect talks" with israel-- continuing with that will now make him look stupid, which props up hamas.

israel is digging itself into a diplomatic shithole like it has never been into before. this isn't the yom kippur war. a humanitarian flotilla is not a horde of syrian tanks and egyptians with soviet SAM batteries and grenade launchers. killing turkish citizens in the middle of the mediterranean was a fucking stupid move, no ifs ands or buts.

i've deleted the ad-hominems this originally contained with the hope that some of this will seep into your brain and you'll understand that the world is a very complicated place and it's not always possible to keep it simple(ton). eh, i couldn't resist one last potshot...

this makes me think that it was CIA "intelligence" that provided the targeting data.

good times.


yr a regular bloodhound, aren't you?!?!

there's no doubt that this a coup for the "Hamas gameplan" but whether this is something that serves their purpose or whether they "planned it" are two different things.

yr calls that this was "instigated" are beyond assinine to the point that I find it hard to believe that "keeping it simple" the typist, actually believes that, rather than taking the obviously contrary position for trolling sakes.

surely, yr smarter than that.

you may have tagged Hamas, but I have sussed out the Keeping It Simple gameplan.

1) Drink father's urine.
2) ????
3) PROFIT!