It would be my pleasure. Let me know.

way to make me cry right before bedtime.........

back on topic: yeeeeeeh let's do it.
DEADLINE
would be a good name. haha, I'm sleepy.

Yeah, I'm definitely down for this. Don't have the time to make a video but I can definitely contributed some music.

i'd like to do something but i'm shy

Collab?

Oh right, yeah small physical run would be better than OL version. I thought you meant in terms of sending the tracks.

So, basically, I'm busy until Dec 15th, but after that I'm pretty much free save for the jobhunt, so yeah. All systems go etc.

I'd be great at mastering it myself. The only downside to that is that I'd also lose the loudness war when it comes to tracks which I don't like, so that's why I am not bothered by it.

The problem I'd have with a 'global master' for a compilation is that I really think tracks should be as loud as the person making it wants them to be. 'Loudness', in itself, isn't important; dynamics are. Or, to put it another way, I don't want any cunt fucking about with my music.

I wasn't being serious about the mastering. I don't care, it's only a compilation of people from here's music, not some sort of grand statement on production/mastering skills.

It is impossible to make the tracks "as loud as the person making it wants them" because everyone has their own volume knob on their stereo. Mastering will just make the album more consistent so the end user doesn't have to keep adjusting their volume knob between each track. I wouldn't actually change much about the audio content unless it was an extreme case and it was absolutely necessary.

It isn't a statement about skills. It is simply making everyone's songs sound as good together as possible. If something like this is going to be done it might as well be done right.

Regardless of who does the mastering this goes out to all those who want to submit tracks:

Submit in WAV format, with no effects placed on the master bus during mixdown, and have the levels peak at about -6dB.

Thanks!

I'll contribute. I've been meaning to start some original work again.

Well, this is the bare bones of the disagreement - if I do something incredibly quiet (which is likely) or with a big dynamic range (which is possible) or something that's ranted to fuck (also likely) I don't really want it adulterated because someone else has recorded something very flat with minimal dynamic range. What I'm cautious about is that I'll probably do something electro-acoustic, while I imagine there'll be a lot of guitar-based things, which requires a very different approach, mastering-wise; I know there a few people who might do dance-based stuff (Shabbers, SYR Fox) which, again, I wouldn't want compromised because most people are doing rock music.

Essentially, I'm interested in a good, diverse mix of music - if you're moving everything towards the middle ground just for the sake of consistency then you threaten to undermine those at the perimeters - at one end, harsh noise, at the other, lower-case EAI. I'm not saying that mastering is entirely unnecessary, but I'd say a very softly-softly approach - that is, take out any peaks unless the person specifically requests they be left in (which I'd imagine the lo-fi and noise contingent would prefer). This has a few problems, obviously - I know people like Clone explicitly likes a very low mastering, and knox tends to keep things this side of quiet, and their tracks might not 'jump out', but I think it's more important to keep the integrity of the track and let the listener decide than it is to 'compromise their artistic vision'. Or, putting it another way - I've a suspicion that the more experienced musicians (Clone, Terminal Pharmacy etc) would happily chop off your hands if someone fucks about with their track. I'm in that same boat, but more because I'm awkward than experienced.

Anyway, NOBODY IS MASTERING ANYTHING. Full stop. Let's not ruin the fun already eh?

I have your YLT cd on my desk. I just need to find a minute to pop into the mail room and send it to you.

I would really like to get Ryan and myself involved in this. We have a drummer living with us now too. Our acoustic sound has been morphing into electric. I found all of my mom's old stage equipment mixers, her mic and some other shit. I will just have to see if he's up for it.

This idea is AWESOME too. You can count me in on this if it comes to fruition. I would definitly like to write something or some of my arty shit.

i'm afraid - what do you mean by collab?
sounds like some communist thing.

hevusa has to stop this bullshit otherwise nothing will work out.

(i already know what i'd like to do)

Good, good!
I'll start a proper thread on this in a few days, so things won't get too mixed up in here (and this thread is kinda messy already).