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Toilet & Bowels 02.12.2019 10:35 AM

Yeah but nobody talked about that kind priviledge in the 70s. They were dumb kids who wised up pretty fast. I mean if we were teenagers in 1976 who knows what we would have done.... especially you.

Savage Clone 02.12.2019 10:43 AM

True enough. It does seem that some people get to live down their youth and others don't though. I do know that I have ceased a few imagery and fashion things because it definitely makes people misjudge me and I've seen it hurt people that I know enough not to engage in certain trappings just because they are interesting in an occult way or were fascinating for one reason or another. I have never been a right-wing person and I don't really need to invite headaches when I can engage any number of interest and be artistically satisfied. I don't like this era of litmus tests and I do think the art and the artist can be separated if the art is non political in nature, but this is not really a time for expecting nuanced thinking out of people. Given the state of the world, ambiguity and such are not really a great path to take these days.

Toilet & Bowels 02.12.2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I guess I'm just saying it's a little mystifying who gets a pass and who doesn't, and for what. And who gets to live stuff down and who doesn't, and for how long. This goes for both legitimate and overblown claims alike.





It seems to work on how much of your fanbase gives a shit, and if there are enough of them for you to carry on regardless, e.g. Morrissey.

Savage Clone 02.12.2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
It seems to work on how much of your fanbase gives a shit, and if there are enough of them for you to carry on regardless, e.g. Morrissey.



Another primo example. There are more than a few. But he's a great one.

Toilet & Bowels 02.12.2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I do know that I have ceased a few imagery and fashion things because it definitely makes people misjudge me and I've seen it hurt people





That's why I had not be facebook friends with colleagues anymore.

halgreen 02.12.2019 11:23 AM

Pity he's gone off the deep end. I remember seeing Neil Campbell from Vibracathedral pointing out Bowers's Brexit rant a few years back. It seems to have been an open secret in that scene that Bowers is probably a fascist sympathizer.

Toilet & Bowels 02.12.2019 02:04 PM

Whst did he say about Brexit?

Toilet & Bowels 02.12.2019 02:08 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Bower

On a side note, read to the bottom of the skullflower section. Mutant Ape used to post here, eons ago. I wonder if he's a nazi too.

Toilet & Bowels 02.12.2019 02:33 PM

https://thequietus.com/articles/2602...fascism-racism

Bytor Peltor 02.12.2019 02:43 PM

Boyd Rice, John Zewizz and Douglas P all come to mind. I don’t believe any of the three are very active on social media, which might be the biggest difference?

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I guess I'm just saying it's a little mystifying who gets a pass and who doesn't, and for what. And who gets to live stuff down and who doesn't, and for how long. This goes for both legitimate and overblown claims alike.


Savage Clone 02.12.2019 02:55 PM

Boyd rice is actually reasonably active on Instagram, believe it or not.

Derek 03.29.2019 10:07 AM

Yeah and he's clearly a pathetic old man trying to squeeze his fat fascist ass into skinny jeans

Derek 03.29.2019 10:09 AM

Anyone wanna buy my Skullflower CDs? I've got the one that goes ZZZZTTTT SCREEEEEEEEEEEE BZZZZZZTTTTTTTt

Toilet & Bowels 03.29.2019 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Boyd rice is actually reasonably active on Instagram, believe it or not.



Do you follow any other white supremacists on Instagram?

Savage Clone 03.30.2019 08:01 AM

Not to my knowledge, since I'm not into Morrissey's solo career.

Toilet & Bowels 03.30.2019 09:35 AM

I really liked the black metal band benighted leams and i found out that guy is really far out in terms of right wing politics to the point of being actually scary, it's a shame because the guy is also a very talented painter.

I knew Varg was a scum bag but I still bought a couple of Burzum records, which isn't sonething i would do now. Also the guy is a total lunatic (who would have guessed a guy who murdered his friend to prove he was more evil than him was a lunatic?) if his youtube video diaries are anything to go by.

jimbrim 04.08.2019 03:46 PM

I bizarrely found a Sunroof! album for sale in a local charity shop over the weekend, sandwiched between Travis and Will Young CDs! This was such a weird finding that I just assumed it was donated by someone locally who had second thoughts about owning Bower's music after recent accusations. I was then faced with the dilemma of whether or not I should buy an album made by someone whose views I find deplorable, but ended up buying the album anyway for a whopping £1 which went to the British Heart Foundation.


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