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Pookie 07.28.2006 09:15 AM

I don't get the fuss. Is this the same Chris Cornell who was in middle-of-the-road rock, Led Zep wannabes, Soundgarden. Hardly cutting edge was he?

truncated 07.28.2006 09:20 AM

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Actually, I thought it was the Bond films that were selling out, not Cornell.


"An indie film becomes shit if it uses a mainstream artist."

Replace "indie" with "classic".

I'm just sayin', like.

sonicl 07.28.2006 09:22 AM

But Cornell's not mainstream.

DaydreamNation 07.28.2006 09:26 AM

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As folks were absolutely disgusted that Aphex Twin was in 8mm, and Godspeed in 28 Days.

Mainstream films are shit because they use stock performers and ignore the independents.

An indie film becomes shit if it uses a mainstream artist.

If a mainstream film uses an indie/experimental artist, its supposed quality doesn't improve - that artist merely becomes a sell-out.

"That guy only digs Godspeed because he heard it in a Danny Boyle film."

"Mainstream culture sucks because nobody exposes these ignorant masses to the obscure."

Anyone going to make up their manipulated, ignorant minds?



dude, so what you are suggesting is soon as someone makes any small amount of success in the film industry they must either voluntarily go into exile in the Congo or we should stop putting them in movies. I agree that alot of mainstream actors/ actresses don't have any talent and i love independent movies. But logically someone is going to be on top. And also logically here, quality of a film has nothing to do with whether it's "indie" or mainstream. generalizing creates radicalism man.

truncated 07.28.2006 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
But Cornell's not mainstream.

Fair point - I would consider him to be, but I can see how others might not.

A sticky issue indeed!

I'm not attacking you anyhow, because you have a brain, and I like you.

*Important note: My judgements of character and rules of etiquette are completely subjective, sometimes illogical, and highly unfair. Those that I favor are allowed to break them with little or no repercussion, while those I do not are forever condemned to the category of tedious imbecile.

That's just how it is.

truncated 07.28.2006 09:31 AM

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dude, so what you are suggesting is soon as someone makes any small amount of success in the film industry they must either voluntarily go into exile in the Congo or we should stop putting them in movies. I agree that alot of mainstream actors/ actresses don't have any talent and i love independent movies. But logically someone is going to be on top. And also logically here, quality of a film has nothing to do with whether it's "indie" or mainstream. generalizing creates radicalism man.


Try re-reading my post, Scooter, and you'll see that we're actually on the same page.

sonicl 07.28.2006 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
But Cornell's not mainstream.

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Originally Posted by truncated
Fair point - I would consider him to be, but I can see how others might not.

A sticky issue indeed!


That is probably the point. In the UK, I'd be surprised if more than 2% of the population have heard of Chris Cornell. Bond themes have generally been the preserve of the internationally mainstream artist, which is, I suppose, where my horror at his being selected to do the new one comes from.

I know that Bond films are pure cinematic fluff, but nevertheless I enjoy them. The new film has a new actor playing Bond, which tends to mean that the style of the film will change, and since I have enjoyed the last few with Pierce Brosnan, the though of a change of style is not a comfortable one. I guess that I see a further implication of change of style in the change in the type of theme tune artist.

Hip Priest 07.28.2006 09:38 AM

Is it fair to say that Soundgarden weren't mainstream, but Audioslave are? Especially given that the public's taste is more guitar-oriented now. I'm surprised at some of the people I know who are Cornell fans now, because of Audioslave. These are Coldplay and Franz Ferdinand fans I'm talking of.

sonicl 07.28.2006 09:41 AM

I'm rather out of touch with what "the kids" are listening to these days, I'm afraid. I know my niece likes The Kooks, but that's as far as it goes.

porkmarras 07.28.2006 09:42 AM

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I'm rather out of touch with what "the kids" are listening to these days. I know my niece likes The Kooks, but that's as far as it goes.

What?No 'new rave' in your house?Ever heard of Whitey?

DaydreamNation 07.28.2006 09:43 AM

Cornell being mainstream is a toss-up. alot of people wouldn't know the name but they would know either a Soundgarden song or an Audioslave song. Compared to Led Zeppelin he's not mainstream but when compared to the Velvet Underground he would be probably.

sonicl 07.28.2006 09:44 AM

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What?No 'new rave' in your house?Ever heard of Whitey?

Porky, I haven't a fucking clue what you're on about.

DaydreamNation 07.28.2006 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated
Try re-reading my post, Scooter, and you'll see that we're actually on the same page.


i dunno. but just to let you know i'm not attacking you and stuff. i just voiced my opinion off of yours. But yea i don't mean it in a malicious way

DaydreamNation 07.28.2006 09:48 AM

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Porky, I haven't a fucking clue what you're on about.


he was being sarcastic

sonicl 07.28.2006 09:52 AM

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he was being sarcastic


Are you sure? He doesn't seem the sort.

matt reeder 07.28.2006 07:36 PM

Chris Cornell used to rock. He doesn't really anymore, but I'll give him a pass because his solo album was really good, and he needs to record another one STAT.

Cantankerous 07.28.2006 08:25 PM

Lilly G______ to laugh maniacally.


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